Upgrading to a S-ATA disk with Asus P4PE - Help?

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I'm buying a new harddisk AND upgrading to XP like this:

1) New disk is partitioned into 2 partitions
2) Both are formatted with Win98se format /s
3) Old Win98se is copied to both partitions
4) 2nd partition will then be upgraded to WinXP
(I'll make the Win98se bootsect.dos with debug
to be able to boot Win98se from the 1st part.)

Straight forward if my new drive is a P-ATA drive too.

BUT, what if I buy a S-ATA drive for my new drive?

- Do I need to install any Promise S-ATA drivers to be able
to see this disk (I can install them on the old Win98se
installation on my old disk while that is still boot disk)

- Will all partition tools see both the old P-ATA disk and
the new S-ATA disk (can't use Win98se FDISK as that can't
create two primary partitions - and I need to do that

- What when I upgrade from Win98se til XP after copying to
the new disk? How will the XP upgrade react? Will it see
the S-ATA disk at all? Can I install the Promise S-ATA
driver AFTER upgrading XP (will XP be able to use the S-ATA
disk without the driver at all), or how do I do this?

I'm not going to use the RAID support on the Promise S-ATA
controller, only one of the S-ATA connectors for my new disk.

BTW: How do I select if my P4PE should boot from the P-ATA
controller (as today) or from the S-ATA controller?

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Win98se, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!

 

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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:14:37 +0200, Lars-Erik Østerud <.@.> wrote:

>I'm buying a new harddisk AND upgrading to XP like this:
>
>1) New disk is partitioned into 2 partitions
>2) Both are formatted with Win98se format /s
>3) Old Win98se is copied to both partitions
>4) 2nd partition will then be upgraded to WinXP
> (I'll make the Win98se bootsect.dos with debug
> to be able to boot Win98se from the 1st part.)
>
>Straight forward if my new drive is a P-ATA drive too.

Straight forward, but your procedure is not...

Easier ways to do this... check the net.

 

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>I'm buying a new harddisk AND upgrading to XP like this:
>
>1) New disk is partitioned into 2 partitions
>2) Both are formatted with Win98se format /s
>3) Old Win98se is copied to both partitions
>4) 2nd partition will then be upgraded to WinXP
> (I'll make the Win98se bootsect.dos with debug
> to be able to boot Win98se from the 1st part.)
>
>Straight forward if my new drive is a P-ATA drive too.
>
>BUT, what if I buy a S-ATA drive for my new drive?
>
>- Do I need to install any Promise S-ATA drivers to be able
> to see this disk (I can install them on the old Win98se
> installation on my old disk while that is still boot disk)
>
>- Will all partition tools see both the old P-ATA disk and
> the new S-ATA disk (can't use Win98se FDISK as that can't
> create two primary partitions - and I need to do that
>
>- What when I upgrade from Win98se til XP after copying to
> the new disk? How will the XP upgrade react? Will it see
> the S-ATA disk at all? Can I install the Promise S-ATA
> driver AFTER upgrading XP (will XP be able to use the S-ATA
> disk without the driver at all), or how do I do this?
>
>I'm not going to use the RAID support on the Promise S-ATA
>controller, only one of the S-ATA connectors for my new disk.
>
>BTW: How do I select if my P4PE should boot from the P-ATA
> controller (as today) or from the S-ATA controller?
>

In order for XP to see the SATA drive you will need to download the drivers for
the controler (should be able to get it from Asus's download page for your
Mobo). Once their downloaded put them on to a floppy. When your installing XP
you'll be prompted to hit F6 to install drivers for the drive, do that then
point it to the floppy.

As for the rest, I'm not enterily sure 98 can see the SATA drive (tho I could
be completly wrong, someone please correct me if I am). Incidently why are you
bothering with 98 anyway?

Also from what I understand you shold be able to do a clean install of XP on
the second partion without actualy having to install 98 first. I belive you
just need the 98 disk to verify that your upgrading. (again, if I'm wrong
someone correct me)

As for selecting which controler to boot from, its in your bios. Hit del when
booting and you should be able to select the boot order of your disks and PATA
vs SATA. Just make sure you've enabled your SATA controlers before trying to
select them to boot off of.

Good luck
~A

 

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Postermon skrev:

> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:14:37 +0200, Lars-Erik Østerud <.@.> wrote:
>
> >I'm buying a new harddisk AND upgrading to XP like this:
> >
> >1) New disk is partitioned into 2 partitions
> >2) Both are formatted with Win98se format /s
> >3) Old Win98se is copied to both partitions
> >4) 2nd partition will then be upgraded to WinXP
> > (I'll make the Win98se bootsect.dos with debug
> > to be able to boot Win98se from the 1st part.)
> >
> >Straight forward if my new drive is a P-ATA drive too.
>
> Straight forward, but your procedure is not...

What's wrong? I have copied Win98se like this before (I left out some
stuff about changing master/slave and stuff on the way of course, need
to switch the disks a couple of times, but it works OK to first format
with /s and then boot from the old disk and copy the files over

The partitioning, and how to have WinXP on 2nd partition and Win98se
on the first I got from an article about how to make that work.

The really tricky part is the Promise S-ATA driver stuff, and how to
select whether to boot from the P-ATA (old disk) or S-ATA (new disk),
and that's what I need feedback on (need to switch boot drive, the
S-ATA (new) must be boot afterwards, but the P-ATA (old) must bee boot
until all data is copied over. How do I control this on a P4PE?

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Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ # 7297605
Win98se, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!

 

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Azaran2003 skrev:

> In order for XP to see the SATA drive you will need to download the drivers for
> the controler (should be able to get it from Asus's download page for your
> Mobo). Once their downloaded put them on to a floppy. When your installing XP
> you'll be prompted to hit F6 to install drivers for the drive, do that then
> point it to the floppy.

But will I get this drive when I do an upgrade (from Win98se to WinXP)
as well? And will the data (and programs) still be "upgraded" (not a
fresh install, but an upgrade from the existing Win98se?

> As for the rest, I'm not enterily sure 98 can see the SATA drive (tho I could
> be completly wrong, someone please correct me if I am). Incidently why are you
> bothering with 98 anyway?

1) There are Promise S-ATA controller drivers for Win98se so I'll
install them before I hook up the new disk (but will the S-ATA be
visible from BIOS, FDISK or another partition program w/o driver?)

2) I would like to keep Win98se on 1st partition beacuse of some
programs not working with XP - and incase the XP install fails...

> Also from what I understand you shold be able to do a clean install of XP on
> the second partion without actualy having to install 98 first. I belive you
> just need the 98 disk to verify that your upgrading. (again, if I'm wrong

Yep, but I'd like to try an upgrade to keep installed programs and
settings first, that's why the 2nd copy of the old Win98se install

> As for selecting which controler to boot from, its in your bios. Hit del when
> booting and you should be able to select the boot order of your disks and PATA
> vs SATA. Just make sure you've enabled your SATA controlers before trying to

That's what I'm unsure about. There is no S-ATA mentioned anywere in
boot order. There is a "Boot onboard ATA first", but both the standard
P-ATA and the Promise S-ATA is "onboard" so I'm not sure what to do.

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Win98se, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!

 

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Just a sidestep in the P4PE S-ATA discussion...

Anyone know if the HDD LED blinks on S-ATA activitiy,
or is it just wired to the standard P-ATA controllers
(is there a possibility to connect it to the S-ATA?)

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Win98se, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!

 

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"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message news:rdabd.26$GV4.3@amstwist00...
> Just a sidestep in the P4PE S-ATA discussion...
>
> Anyone know if the HDD LED blinks on S-ATA activitiy,
> or is it just wired to the standard P-ATA controllers
> (is there a possibility to connect it to the S-ATA?)
>

Works with the SATA drives on my K8V-Deluxe

> --
> Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ # 7297605
> Win98se, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!