blue screens. should i reformat?

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My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2 months
ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research and unchecked
automatically restart in system properties. Then I started getting the blue
screens.

Usually the screen says “IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL” “STOP: 0x0000000A
(0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)

And sometimes “PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA” “STOP: 0x000000050
(oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)

I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was suggested as a
reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times overnight
and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the memory is OK.

I use Drive Image to back-up every month. So I restored an image from
several months ago before I saw the blue screens. I checked the windows
\minidump folder to be sure there were no blue screens at the time the
image was made. And the result was the blue screens continued.

So if I restored an image from before the blue screens started and the blue
screens did not go away does this point to a hardware problem? And if so
where should I look? The blue screens do not happen often, somewhere
between 4 minutes and 4 days.

I have checked all the fans and they work fine. The CPU runs cool. I blew
out all the dust with a can of air.

My hardware: MSI 850 Pro5 mainboard, 2.4 Pentium IV, 1 GB memory

 

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"c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
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> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2 months
> ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research and unchecked
> automatically restart in system properties. Then I started getting the blue
> screens.
< snip >

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. Reseat all the modules, including the memory modules, and cables
inside your computer.

2. Monitor your power supply voltages for a while -- check for
fluctuations and voltages out of spec.

-- Bob Day
http://bobday.vze.com

 

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Bob Day wrote:

> "c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
> news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2
>> months ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research
>> and unchecked automatically restart in system properties. Then I
>> started getting the blue screens.
> < snip >
>
> Here are a couple of suggestions:
>
> 1. Reseat all the modules, including the memory modules, and cables
> inside your computer.
>
> 2. Monitor your power supply voltages for a while -- check for
> fluctuations and voltages out of spec.
>
> -- Bob Day
> http://bobday.vze.com
>
>
I will try to reseat all the modules as you suggested.

How do I monitor my power supply?

 

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What software/hardware/drivers did you last install before you started
getting these errors?

"c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2 months
> ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research and unchecked
> automatically restart in system properties. Then I started getting the
blue
> screens.
>
> Usually the screen says "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" "STOP: 0x0000000A
> (0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)
>
> And sometimes "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" "STOP: 0x000000050
> (oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)
>
> I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was suggested as
a
> reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times overnight
> and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the memory is OK.
>
> I use Drive Image to back-up every month. So I restored an image from
> several months ago before I saw the blue screens. I checked the windows
> \minidump folder to be sure there were no blue screens at the time the
> image was made. And the result was the blue screens continued.
>
> So if I restored an image from before the blue screens started and the
blue
> screens did not go away does this point to a hardware problem? And if so
> where should I look? The blue screens do not happen often, somewhere
> between 4 minutes and 4 days.
>
> I have checked all the fans and they work fine. The CPU runs cool. I blew
> out all the dust with a can of air.
>
> My hardware: MSI 850 Pro5 mainboard, 2.4 Pentium IV, 1 GB memory

 

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Yves Leclerc wrote:

> What software/hardware/drivers did you last install before you started
> getting these errors?
>
> "c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
> news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2
>> months ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research
>> and unchecked automatically restart in system properties. Then I
>> started getting the
> blue
>> screens.
>>
>> Usually the screen says "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" "STOP: 0x0000000A
>> (0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)
>>
>> And sometimes "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" "STOP: 0x000000050
>> (oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)
>>
>> I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was
>> suggested as
> a
>> reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times
>> overnight and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the
>> memory is OK.
>>
>> I use Drive Image to back-up every month. So I restored an image from
>> several months ago before I saw the blue screens. I checked the
>> windows \minidump folder to be sure there were no blue screens at the
>> time the image was made. And the result was the blue screens
>> continued.
>>
>> So if I restored an image from before the blue screens started and
>> the
> blue
>> screens did not go away does this point to a hardware problem? And if
>> so where should I look? The blue screens do not happen often,
>> somewhere between 4 minutes and 4 days.
>>
>> I have checked all the fans and they work fine. The CPU runs cool. I
>> blew out all the dust with a can of air.
>>
>> My hardware: MSI 850 Pro5 mainboard, 2.4 Pentium IV, 1 GB memory
>
>
I have not installed any new hardware for well over a year. I have
installed some new drivers from Windows Update.

I suspected an Invidia driver for the video card. I uninstalled the device
and I had to re-activate Windows XP upon reboot. The generic driver doesn’t
support the video out to my TV so I reinstalled the driver from Windows
Update.

I uninstalled most hardware from the device manager and let it redetect and
install drivers. A friend suggested this.

 

[dl]

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Dont use winupdate for drivers, use hardware manu.site only.
There has been a documented problem on Nvidia drivers,amongst others, from
Winupdate

"c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
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> Yves Leclerc wrote:
>
> > What software/hardware/drivers did you last install before you started
> > getting these errors?
> >
> > "c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
> > news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2
> >> months ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research
> >> and unchecked automatically restart in system properties. Then I
> >> started getting the
> > blue
> >> screens.
> >>
> >> Usually the screen says "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" "STOP: 0x0000000A
> >> (0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)
> >>
> >> And sometimes "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" "STOP: 0x000000050
> >> (oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)
> >>
> >> I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was
> >> suggested as
> > a
> >> reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times
> >> overnight and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the
> >> memory is OK.
> >>
> >> I use Drive Image to back-up every month. So I restored an image from
> >> several months ago before I saw the blue screens. I checked the
> >> windows \minidump folder to be sure there were no blue screens at the
> >> time the image was made. And the result was the blue screens
> >> continued.
> >>
> >> So if I restored an image from before the blue screens started and
> >> the
> > blue
> >> screens did not go away does this point to a hardware problem? And if
> >> so where should I look? The blue screens do not happen often,
> >> somewhere between 4 minutes and 4 days.
> >>
> >> I have checked all the fans and they work fine. The CPU runs cool. I
> >> blew out all the dust with a can of air.
> >>
> >> My hardware: MSI 850 Pro5 mainboard, 2.4 Pentium IV, 1 GB memory
> >
> >
> I have not installed any new hardware for well over a year. I have
> installed some new drivers from Windows Update.
>
> I suspected an Invidia driver for the video card. I uninstalled the device
> and I had to re-activate Windows XP upon reboot. The generic driver
doesn't
> support the video out to my TV so I reinstalled the driver from Windows
> Update.
>
> I uninstalled most hardware from the device manager and let it redetect
and
> install drivers. A friend suggested this.

 

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DL wrote:

> Dont use winupdate for drivers, use hardware manu.site only.
> There has been a documented problem on Nvidia drivers,amongst others,
> from Winupdate
>
> "c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
> news:OfjmYjVXEHA.2964@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Yves Leclerc wrote:
>>
>> > What software/hardware/drivers did you last install before you
>> > started getting these errors?
>> >
>> > "c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
>> > news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2
>> >> months ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some
>> >> research and unchecked automatically restart in system properties.
>> >> Then I started getting the
>> > blue
>> >> screens.
>> >>
>> >> Usually the screen says "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" "STOP: 0x0000000A
>> >> (0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)
>> >>
>> >> And sometimes "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" "STOP: 0x000000050
>> >> (oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)
>> >>
>> >> I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was
>> >> suggested as
>> > a
>> >> reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times
>> >> overnight and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the
>> >> memory is OK.
>> >>
>> >> I use Drive Image to back-up every month. So I restored an image
>> >> from several months ago before I saw the blue screens. I checked
>> >> the windows \minidump folder to be sure there were no blue screens
>> >> at the time the image was made. And the result was the blue
>> >> screens continued.
>> >>
>> >> So if I restored an image from before the blue screens started and
>> >> the
>> > blue
>> >> screens did not go away does this point to a hardware problem? And
>> >> if so where should I look? The blue screens do not happen often,
>> >> somewhere between 4 minutes and 4 days.
>> >>
>> >> I have checked all the fans and they work fine. The CPU runs cool.
>> >> I blew out all the dust with a can of air.
>> >>
>> >> My hardware: MSI 850 Pro5 mainboard, 2.4 Pentium IV, 1 GB memory
>> >
>> >
>> I have not installed any new hardware for well over a year. I have
>> installed some new drivers from Windows Update.
>>
>> I suspected an Invidia driver for the video card. I uninstalled the
>> device and I had to re-activate Windows XP upon reboot. The generic
>> driver
> doesn't
>> support the video out to my TV so I reinstalled the driver from
>> Windows Update.
>>
>> I uninstalled most hardware from the device manager and let it
>> redetect
> and
>> install drivers. A friend suggested this.
>
>
>
I will uninstall the driver and see what happens.

 

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"c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2 months
> ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research and unchecked
> automatically restart in system properties. Then I started getting the
blue
> screens.
>
> Usually the screen says "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" "STOP: 0x0000000A
> (0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)
>
> And sometimes "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" "STOP: 0x000000050
> (oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)
>
> I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was suggested as
a
> reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times overnight
> and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the memory is OK.
>

I see from the info below that you have 1GB of memory this means it can take
a lot longer then overnight for a memory error to register - your blue
screens happen between 4 minutes and 4 days after all.

I would definetely test the sticks in the system individually as I strongly
suspect one of them is mal-functioning.

 

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Nick Le Lievre wrote:

> "c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
> news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2
>> months ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research
>> and unchecked automatically restart in system properties. Then I
>> started getting the
> blue
>> screens.
>>
>> Usually the screen says "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" "STOP: 0x0000000A
>> (0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)
>>
>> And sometimes "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" "STOP: 0x000000050
>> (oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)
>>
>> I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was
>> suggested as
> a
>> reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times
>> overnight and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the
>> memory is OK.
>>
>
> I see from the info below that you have 1GB of memory this means it
> can take a lot longer then overnight for a memory error to register -
> your blue screens happen between 4 minutes and 4 days after all.
>
> I would definetely test the sticks in the system individually as I
> strongly suspect one of them is mal-functioning.
>
>
>
Thank you! I will try all suggestions and hopefully that will solve the
problem. Bad memory is easy to fix and that’s what I hope it is. Too bad
all the info on the blue screen doesn’t provide much help.

 

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You might consider going into the BIOS and making sure that resetting your
IRQ settings back to AUTO. Consult your MB documentation for a HOWTO.

Good Luck,

John H. Wright, MCP

"c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
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> Nick Le Lievre wrote:
>
> > "c0smic" <too.much@newsgroup.spam> wrote in message
> > news:eIn%23hbUXEHA.1440@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> My computer is 2 years old and has been working very well. About 2
> >> months ago it started to spontaneously re-boot. I did some research
> >> and unchecked automatically restart in system properties. Then I
> >> started getting the
> > blue
> >> screens.
> >>
> >> Usually the screen says "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" "STOP: 0x0000000A
> >> (0xE0C37E040,0x00000001,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD)
> >>
> >> And sometimes "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" "STOP: 0x000000050
> >> (oxE8C13980,0x00000000,0x804FD9BD,0x00000002)
> >>
> >> I did a lot of searching on the web and often bad memory was
> >> suggested as
> > a
> >> reason. So I dwnloaded and ran memtest86. I ran it several times
> >> overnight and always got zero errors. So it would appear that the
> >> memory is OK.
> >>
> >
> > I see from the info below that you have 1GB of memory this means it
> > can take a lot longer then overnight for a memory error to register -
> > your blue screens happen between 4 minutes and 4 days after all.
> >
> > I would definetely test the sticks in the system individually as I
> > strongly suspect one of them is mal-functioning.
> >
> >
> >
> Thank you! I will try all suggestions and hopefully that will solve the
> problem. Bad memory is easy to fix and that's what I hope it is. Too bad
> all the info on the blue screen doesn't provide much help.