Auto download/install of drivers from MS site...

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Posted this on the XP General NG, but got no suggestions
other than to pull the network connection when
playing with my hardware. So, take a crack at it.
There's GOTTA be a way to turn this off!
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Been trying to figure out why my Radeon
won't drive the DVI input on my Samsung 191T.

This requires a lot of uninstalling of ATI drivers.

When I reboot after an ATI uninstall, I get the
"New Hardware Found-VGA compatible" AND THEN
Windows proceeds to download whatever old version
of the Radeon drivers MS has on their website. I can
see what's happening on my WinProxy status window.
I have to kill the connection in my proxy server to
keep this from happening.

Automatic Updates are COMPLETELY disabled-
all the options are greyed-out in the tab. I haven't
been able to find any options to turn off this BAD
behavior...downloading a driver off the Internet,
even if it's from MS's site,
and then installing it WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME
is COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior and makes
hardware troubleshooting a bigger pain in the ass
than it already is...

There had BETTER be some way to turn this off.

<end of rant>

 

[dl]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

Cancel the wizard

"V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:uPAFilrYEHA.2972@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Posted this on the XP General NG, but got no suggestions
> other than to pull the network connection when
> playing with my hardware. So, take a crack at it.
> There's GOTTA be a way to turn this off!
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Been trying to figure out why my Radeon
> won't drive the DVI input on my Samsung 191T.
>
> This requires a lot of uninstalling of ATI drivers.
>
> When I reboot after an ATI uninstall, I get the
> "New Hardware Found-VGA compatible" AND THEN
> Windows proceeds to download whatever old version
> of the Radeon drivers MS has on their website. I can
> see what's happening on my WinProxy status window.
> I have to kill the connection in my proxy server to
> keep this from happening.
>
> Automatic Updates are COMPLETELY disabled-
> all the options are greyed-out in the tab. I haven't
> been able to find any options to turn off this BAD
> behavior...downloading a driver off the Internet,
> even if it's from MS's site,
> and then installing it WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME
> is COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior and makes
> hardware troubleshooting a bigger pain in the ass
> than it already is...
>
> There had BETTER be some way to turn this off.
>
> <end of rant>
>
>

 

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"DL" <dl@spoofmail.com> wrote in message
news:%238$CA0tYEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Cancel the wizard
>

Good thought, but it just starts right back up again.
And endlessly retries unless I kill my Internet connection.
At which point it bitches and tries to make me feel guilty
by threatening me about hardware that may not work correctly.

I want the wizard DISABLED PERMANENTLY.

If it's going after a small driver, and I don't catch what's going on,
the damm driver gets downloaded & installed before I know what's
happened, possibly ruining ALL the troubleshooting
progress I may have made up to that point.

> "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:uPAFilrYEHA.2972@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Posted this on the XP General NG, but got no suggestions
> > other than to pull the network connection when
> > playing with my hardware. So, take a crack at it.
> > There's GOTTA be a way to turn this off!
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Been trying to figure out why my Radeon
> > won't drive the DVI input on my Samsung 191T.
> >
> > This requires a lot of uninstalling of ATI drivers.
> >
> > When I reboot after an ATI uninstall, I get the
> > "New Hardware Found-VGA compatible" AND THEN
> > Windows proceeds to download whatever old version
> > of the Radeon drivers MS has on their website. I can
> > see what's happening on my WinProxy status window.
> > I have to kill the connection in my proxy server to
> > keep this from happening.
> >
> > Automatic Updates are COMPLETELY disabled-
> > all the options are greyed-out in the tab. I haven't
> > been able to find any options to turn off this BAD
> > behavior...downloading a driver off the Internet,
> > even if it's from MS's site,
> > and then installing it WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME
> > is COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior and makes
> > hardware troubleshooting a bigger pain in the ass
> > than it already is...
> >
> > There had BETTER be some way to turn this off.
> >
> > <end of rant>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[dl]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

There's obviously something peculiar about yr setup, I have autoupdate set
to notify prior to updating. It also only functions on critical updates,
certainly not on Driver updates, which in any case I would be extremely
unlikely to download from MS
I seem to recall it is possible to uninstall the autoupdate feature, you may
be advised to uninstall then reinstall.

"V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:%23TW$obuYEHA.384@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> "DL" <dl@spoofmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%238$CA0tYEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Cancel the wizard
> >
>
> Good thought, but it just starts right back up again.
> And endlessly retries unless I kill my Internet connection.
> At which point it bitches and tries to make me feel guilty
> by threatening me about hardware that may not work correctly.
>
> I want the wizard DISABLED PERMANENTLY.
>
> If it's going after a small driver, and I don't catch what's going on,
> the damm driver gets downloaded & installed before I know what's
> happened, possibly ruining ALL the troubleshooting
> progress I may have made up to that point.
>
> > "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > news:uPAFilrYEHA.2972@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Posted this on the XP General NG, but got no suggestions
> > > other than to pull the network connection when
> > > playing with my hardware. So, take a crack at it.
> > > There's GOTTA be a way to turn this off!
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Been trying to figure out why my Radeon
> > > won't drive the DVI input on my Samsung 191T.
> > >
> > > This requires a lot of uninstalling of ATI drivers.
> > >
> > > When I reboot after an ATI uninstall, I get the
> > > "New Hardware Found-VGA compatible" AND THEN
> > > Windows proceeds to download whatever old version
> > > of the Radeon drivers MS has on their website. I can
> > > see what's happening on my WinProxy status window.
> > > I have to kill the connection in my proxy server to
> > > keep this from happening.
> > >
> > > Automatic Updates are COMPLETELY disabled-
> > > all the options are greyed-out in the tab. I haven't
> > > been able to find any options to turn off this BAD
> > > behavior...downloading a driver off the Internet,
> > > even if it's from MS's site,
> > > and then installing it WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME
> > > is COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior and makes
> > > hardware troubleshooting a bigger pain in the ass
> > > than it already is...
> > >
> > > There had BETTER be some way to turn this off.
> > >
> > > <end of rant>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[dl]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

A thought; you may need Administrator account permissions to amend
Autoupdate settings.

"DL" <dl@spoofmail.com> wrote in message
news:uA3v0zuYEHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> There's obviously something peculiar about yr setup, I have autoupdate set
> to notify prior to updating. It also only functions on critical updates,
> certainly not on Driver updates, which in any case I would be extremely
> unlikely to download from MS
> I seem to recall it is possible to uninstall the autoupdate feature, you
may
> be advised to uninstall then reinstall.
>
> "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:%23TW$obuYEHA.384@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "DL" <dl@spoofmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%238$CA0tYEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Cancel the wizard
> > >
> >
> > Good thought, but it just starts right back up again.
> > And endlessly retries unless I kill my Internet connection.
> > At which point it bitches and tries to make me feel guilty
> > by threatening me about hardware that may not work correctly.
> >
> > I want the wizard DISABLED PERMANENTLY.
> >
> > If it's going after a small driver, and I don't catch what's going on,
> > the damm driver gets downloaded & installed before I know what's
> > happened, possibly ruining ALL the troubleshooting
> > progress I may have made up to that point.
> >
> > > "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uPAFilrYEHA.2972@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Posted this on the XP General NG, but got no suggestions
> > > > other than to pull the network connection when
> > > > playing with my hardware. So, take a crack at it.
> > > > There's GOTTA be a way to turn this off!
> > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Been trying to figure out why my Radeon
> > > > won't drive the DVI input on my Samsung 191T.
> > > >
> > > > This requires a lot of uninstalling of ATI drivers.
> > > >
> > > > When I reboot after an ATI uninstall, I get the
> > > > "New Hardware Found-VGA compatible" AND THEN
> > > > Windows proceeds to download whatever old version
> > > > of the Radeon drivers MS has on their website. I can
> > > > see what's happening on my WinProxy status window.
> > > > I have to kill the connection in my proxy server to
> > > > keep this from happening.
> > > >
> > > > Automatic Updates are COMPLETELY disabled-
> > > > all the options are greyed-out in the tab. I haven't
> > > > been able to find any options to turn off this BAD
> > > > behavior...downloading a driver off the Internet,
> > > > even if it's from MS's site,
> > > > and then installing it WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME
> > > > is COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior and makes
> > > > hardware troubleshooting a bigger pain in the ass
> > > > than it already is...
> > > >
> > > > There had BETTER be some way to turn this off.
> > > >
> > > > <end of rant>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

"DL" <dl@spoofmail.com> wrote in message
news:O3Hj56uYEHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> A thought; you may need Administrator account permissions to amend
> Autoupdate settings.

Yeh, the account I'm using has Admin rights,
but is not the Admininstator account...

I may start up in Safe Mode and go there
to check..

Also may re-enable Auto Update temporarily, reboot,
then disable it again. Maybe that'll flush all the turds
down the toilet.

>
> "DL" <dl@spoofmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uA3v0zuYEHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > There's obviously something peculiar about yr setup, I have autoupdate
set
> > to notify prior to updating. It also only functions on critical updates,
> > certainly not on Driver updates, which in any case I would be extremely
> > unlikely to download from MS
> > I seem to recall it is possible to uninstall the autoupdate feature, you
> may
> > be advised to uninstall then reinstall.
> >
> > "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > news:%23TW$obuYEHA.384@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > "DL" <dl@spoofmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%238$CA0tYEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Cancel the wizard
> > > >
> > >
> > > Good thought, but it just starts right back up again.
> > > And endlessly retries unless I kill my Internet connection.
> > > At which point it bitches and tries to make me feel guilty
> > > by threatening me about hardware that may not work correctly.
> > >
> > > I want the wizard DISABLED PERMANENTLY.
> > >
> > > If it's going after a small driver, and I don't catch what's going on,
> > > the damm driver gets downloaded & installed before I know what's
> > > happened, possibly ruining ALL the troubleshooting
> > > progress I may have made up to that point.
> > >
> > > > "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:uPAFilrYEHA.2972@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Posted this on the XP General NG, but got no suggestions
> > > > > other than to pull the network connection when
> > > > > playing with my hardware. So, take a crack at it.
> > > > > There's GOTTA be a way to turn this off!
> > > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Been trying to figure out why my Radeon
> > > > > won't drive the DVI input on my Samsung 191T.
> > > > >
> > > > > This requires a lot of uninstalling of ATI drivers.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I reboot after an ATI uninstall, I get the
> > > > > "New Hardware Found-VGA compatible" AND THEN
> > > > > Windows proceeds to download whatever old version
> > > > > of the Radeon drivers MS has on their website. I can
> > > > > see what's happening on my WinProxy status window.
> > > > > I have to kill the connection in my proxy server to
> > > > > keep this from happening.
> > > > >
> > > > > Automatic Updates are COMPLETELY disabled-
> > > > > all the options are greyed-out in the tab. I haven't
> > > > > been able to find any options to turn off this BAD
> > > > > behavior...downloading a driver off the Internet,
> > > > > even if it's from MS's site,
> > > > > and then installing it WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME
> > > > > is COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior and makes
> > > > > hardware troubleshooting a bigger pain in the ass
> > > > > than it already is...
> > > > >
> > > > > There had BETTER be some way to turn this off.
> > > > >
> > > > > <end of rant>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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Tried to set this up in "Safe Mode"????


"V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:uPAFilrYEHA.2972@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Posted this on the XP General NG, but got no suggestions
> other than to pull the network connection when
> playing with my hardware. So, take a crack at it.
> There's GOTTA be a way to turn this off!
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Been trying to figure out why my Radeon
> won't drive the DVI input on my Samsung 191T.
>
> This requires a lot of uninstalling of ATI drivers.
>
> When I reboot after an ATI uninstall, I get the
> "New Hardware Found-VGA compatible" AND THEN
> Windows proceeds to download whatever old version
> of the Radeon drivers MS has on their website. I can
> see what's happening on my WinProxy status window.
> I have to kill the connection in my proxy server to
> keep this from happening.
>
> Automatic Updates are COMPLETELY disabled-
> all the options are greyed-out in the tab. I haven't
> been able to find any options to turn off this BAD
> behavior...downloading a driver off the Internet,
> even if it's from MS's site,
> and then installing it WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME
> is COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior and makes
> hardware troubleshooting a bigger pain in the ass
> than it already is...
>
> There had BETTER be some way to turn this off.
>
> <end of rant>
>
>

 

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"Nathan McNulty" <525676@betaweb.com> wrote in message
news:Obyyb9$YEHA.2844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Actually, Safe Mode doesn't do anything "weird." What it would actually
> do in this case is not allow access to the internet as the drivers for
> it are not loaded in Safe Mode. Sometimes files are not copied correctly
> because they are in use or the destination file that is to be copied
> over is locked. Booting into Safe Mode may be able to clear this
> problem up. I have had to install TWAIN drivers in Safe Mode as well as
> many people have installed the recent build of XP Service Pack 2 in Safe
> Mode to get by a system stall that occurs on some computers
>
> Nathan McNulty
>

I appreciate all the attempts to help, really.

But, were getting off topic here...

The auto download of drivers that I have NOT
approved the usage of is PISS POOR behavior,
tantamount to a browser hijack, with potentially
even worse results than a hijack...

I want to turn it OFF. Period. I should not have to
perform various "work-arounds" to keep it from happening.

This "feature" should NOT be hard-coded into
OS without the option to permanently disable it.