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December 12, 2004 4:36:01 AM

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Hi
I'm building a new PC but I'm not happy with what is happening.
When I switched on the computer for the first time I hit the DELETE
key for going into the BIOS. Then I looked into all the menus that
appear and it seemed that he recognised all the right parts (drives,
memory.....).
So far so good.Now I did want to change the SYSTEM TIME and selected
this item with the ARROW keys. Now I pressed 1 time the "+" key and
the hour increased. But then the whole system HANG. I was not able to
push any other key, nothing was happening, the screen still stays the
same. The only thing I could do was switching off the PC by pressing
the front button for more then 4 seconds.
After a while a pressed this button again to start up but the only
thing that is happening is: fans are working, the green LED on the
mainboard is burning, the green LED on the front panel is burning and
after a few seconds the LED of the DVD Writer is burning a few
seconds. But the screen stays black, even the power LED off the
monitor is orange and not green like it should be when he receives
signal from the videocard.The speaker also does not beep.
I think I have some serious problems with the BIOS. I tried to start
up by
pressing ALT+F2 (ASUS EZ Flash utility) and use a floppy with the file
P5GD1.ROM but nothing is happening, the floppy is not reacting.
While building all parts together I always touched a ground wire for
eleminating electrostatic voltage.
What are the next steps I can do, can someone please help me?
Thanks
Jef

These parts are used:
Housing:Aopen H600B Miditower Air Guide 1.1 350W power supply
Motherboard:Asus P5GD1 Proactive S775 I915P DDR1 PCI-E
Processor:Intel P4 550 3.4 Ghz BOX S775
Hard drive:36 GB Western Digital Serial-ATA 10000rpm (should be the
boot drive)
Hard drive:200 GB Maxtor Serial-ATA 7200rpm (should be the data drive)
Floppy: NEC
DVD-RW :SONY
Memory: 2 X 512mb DDR Kingston PC400
VGA card:Asus EN6600/TD/256M PCI-Express
Keyboard: Logitech Media keybord
Mouse: Logitech MX310
December 12, 2004 1:19:24 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

In article <1fd2b5c2.0412120136.221cc9d1@posting.google.com>,
jef.damen@tiscali.be (jef) wrote:

> Hi
> I'm building a new PC but I'm not happy with what is happening.
> When I switched on the computer for the first time I hit the DELETE
> key for going into the BIOS. Then I looked into all the menus that
> appear and it seemed that he recognised all the right parts (drives,
> memory.....).
> So far so good.Now I did want to change the SYSTEM TIME and selected
> this item with the ARROW keys. Now I pressed 1 time the "+" key and
> the hour increased. But then the whole system HANG. I was not able to
> push any other key, nothing was happening, the screen still stays the
> same. The only thing I could do was switching off the PC by pressing
> the front button for more then 4 seconds.
> After a while a pressed this button again to start up but the only
> thing that is happening is: fans are working, the green LED on the
> mainboard is burning, the green LED on the front panel is burning and
> after a few seconds the LED of the DVD Writer is burning a few
> seconds. But the screen stays black, even the power LED off the
> monitor is orange and not green like it should be when he receives
> signal from the videocard.The speaker also does not beep.
> I think I have some serious problems with the BIOS. I tried to start
> up by
> pressing ALT+F2 (ASUS EZ Flash utility) and use a floppy with the file
> P5GD1.ROM but nothing is happening, the floppy is not reacting.
> While building all parts together I always touched a ground wire for
> eleminating electrostatic voltage.
> What are the next steps I can do, can someone please help me?
> Thanks
> Jef
>
> These parts are used:
> Housing:Aopen H600B Miditower Air Guide 1.1 350W power supply
> Motherboard:Asus P5GD1 Proactive S775 I915P DDR1 PCI-E
> Processor:Intel P4 550 3.4 Ghz BOX S775
> Hard drive:36 GB Western Digital Serial-ATA 10000rpm (should be the
> boot drive)
> Hard drive:200 GB Maxtor Serial-ATA 7200rpm (should be the data drive)
> Floppy: NEC
> DVD-RW :SONY
> Memory: 2 X 512mb DDR Kingston PC400
> VGA card:Asus EN6600/TD/256M PCI-Express
> Keyboard: Logitech Media keybord
> Mouse: Logitech MX310

Is the ATX12V 2x2 power connector plugged in ?

Also, check the label on the side of the supply, and
verify how much current is available on the +12V output.
A basic system needs 12V@15A for a P4, and yours is
a gaming system and not a basic system (high end processor
and gaming card that consumes more power).

P4 550 PRB=1 115W/12V = 9.58A / 90%_eff = 10.6A ==> 10.6
Hard drive 12V@0.5A idling 12V@2A startup (5 seconds) ==> 1.0
DVD drive (probably minimal, except when spinning) ==> 0.1
(Memory - runs off +3.3V)
For the video card, see this article:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce6...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video...
Video card power estimate 12V@1.5A idle 12V@4.0A gaming ==> 4.0
Fans - estimate 3 of them, power could be 0.5 to 1.0A ==> 1.0

Worst case power 12V@16.7 amps
Power to start BIOS maybe 12.2 amps (assume processor at 50%, video
idle, drives spin up. PSU can probably run
the BIOS, but no guarantees about gaming)

You may need to adjust my numbers a bit, as the EN6600 probably
uses less power than the GT quoted in xbitlabs.

I also don't know if there is more than one version of the P4 550.
There might be a PRB=1 version and a PRB=0 version, and the
latter uses less power than the former. You can look up the
processor part number off the box on processorfinder.intel.com
to get the exact details.

HTH,
Paul
December 12, 2004 2:26:05 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

>What are the next steps I can do, can someone please help me?
>Thanks
>Jef
>
>These parts are used:
>Housing:Aopen H600B Miditower Air Guide 1.1 350W power supply
>Motherboard:Asus P5GD1 Proactive S775 I915P DDR1 PCI-E
>Processor:Intel P4 550 3.4 Ghz BOX S775
>Hard drive:36 GB Western Digital Serial-ATA 10000rpm (should be the
>boot drive)
>Hard drive:200 GB Maxtor Serial-ATA 7200rpm (should be the data drive)
>Floppy: NEC
>DVD-RW :SONY
>Memory: 2 X 512mb DDR Kingston PC400
>VGA card:Asus EN6600/TD/256M PCI-Express
>Keyboard: Logitech Media keybord
>Mouse: Logitech MX310

Hi,

That's a nice selection of parts. Check to be absolutely certain that
your heatsink fan assembly on the processor is making full contact.
Be very gentle as the LGA form factor (I think that is what you have
there from the numbers) is V.E.R.Y fragile. A system hang like
that a minute or so into browsing the bios could indicate that the CPU
was running hot.

As suggested before, re-seat the memory modules. If a module is
inserted a little bit flakey, slight board flex as the system warms up
will result in system hangs or spontaneous reboots.

I would also do as Johnnie suggested and clear the CMOS by following
the procedure in your manual.

If that does not correct it, the earlier post suggesting stripping the
system down and adding one component at a time is a good approach to
follow for diagnosing problems.

Good luck, be patient... it should be a nice system when you get it up
and running.

Regards,

Ender
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
December 12, 2004 3:48:12 PM

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It sounds as if you may have a video problem rather than a dead MB. A
flaky power supply is unlikely but not totally impossible. First, with
everything turned off, try reseating the video card and checking the
video cable connections to the card and monitor.

If the system still doesn't boot, remove and/or disconnect everything
non-essential plugged in to the MB, including floppy, hard, and
optical drives. Reseat the memory chips. Your MB should now be
connected to the case switches and LEDs, and the only two external
things plugged into it and/or connected to it should be your monitor
and keyboard. If that minimal system boots, add things one at a time
until it fails and/or you have it back in its desired configuration
(aggravatingly enough, this is what not infrequently happens!).

If the minimal system does not boot, you will need to check the
keyboard, monitor, cable, and video card separately on a known good
system (I would check the monitor and keyboard first, since this is
easily done without dismantling the good system, though the video card
is more likely to be the problem). If all of these peripherals work
on/in another MB, your MB is likely to be the problem.

On 12 Dec 2004 01:36:01 -0800, jef.damen@tiscali.be (jef) wrote:

>Hi
>I'm building a new PC but I'm not happy with what is happening.
>When I switched on the computer for the first time I hit the DELETE
>key for going into the BIOS. Then I looked into all the menus that
>appear and it seemed that he recognised all the right parts (drives,
>memory.....).
>So far so good.Now I did want to change the SYSTEM TIME and selected
>this item with the ARROW keys. Now I pressed 1 time the "+" key and
>the hour increased. But then the whole system HANG. I was not able to
>push any other key, nothing was happening, the screen still stays the
>same. The only thing I could do was switching off the PC by pressing
>the front button for more then 4 seconds.
>After a while a pressed this button again to start up but the only
>thing that is happening is: fans are working, the green LED on the
>mainboard is burning, the green LED on the front panel is burning and
>after a few seconds the LED of the DVD Writer is burning a few
>seconds. But the screen stays black, even the power LED off the
>monitor is orange and not green like it should be when he receives
>signal from the videocard.The speaker also does not beep.
>I think I have some serious problems with the BIOS. I tried to start
>up by
>pressing ALT+F2 (ASUS EZ Flash utility) and use a floppy with the file
>P5GD1.ROM but nothing is happening, the floppy is not reacting.
>While building all parts together I always touched a ground wire for
>eleminating electrostatic voltage.
>What are the next steps I can do, can someone please help me?
>Thanks
>Jef
>
>These parts are used:
>Housing:Aopen H600B Miditower Air Guide 1.1 350W power supply
>Motherboard:Asus P5GD1 Proactive S775 I915P DDR1 PCI-E
>Processor:Intel P4 550 3.4 Ghz BOX S775
>Hard drive:36 GB Western Digital Serial-ATA 10000rpm (should be the
>boot drive)
>Hard drive:200 GB Maxtor Serial-ATA 7200rpm (should be the data drive)
>Floppy: NEC
>DVD-RW :SONY
>Memory: 2 X 512mb DDR Kingston PC400
>VGA card:Asus EN6600/TD/256M PCI-Express
>Keyboard: Logitech Media keybord
>Mouse: Logitech MX310


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Peter R. Fletcher
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
December 12, 2004 4:12:50 PM

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try removing the cmos battery and set the jumper to clear cmos!


"jef" <jef.damen@tiscali.be> wrote in message
news:1fd2b5c2.0412120136.221cc9d1@posting.google.com...
> Hi
> I'm building a new PC but I'm not happy with what is happening.
> When I switched on the computer for the first time I hit the DELETE
> key for going into the BIOS. Then I looked into all the menus that
> appear and it seemed that he recognised all the right parts (drives,
> memory.....).
> So far so good.Now I did want to change the SYSTEM TIME and selected
> this item with the ARROW keys. Now I pressed 1 time the "+" key and
> the hour increased. But then the whole system HANG. I was not able to
> push any other key, nothing was happening, the screen still stays the
> same. The only thing I could do was switching off the PC by pressing
> the front button for more then 4 seconds.
> After a while a pressed this button again to start up but the only
> thing that is happening is: fans are working, the green LED on the
> mainboard is burning, the green LED on the front panel is burning and
> after a few seconds the LED of the DVD Writer is burning a few
> seconds. But the screen stays black, even the power LED off the
> monitor is orange and not green like it should be when he receives
> signal from the videocard.The speaker also does not beep.
> I think I have some serious problems with the BIOS. I tried to start
> up by
> pressing ALT+F2 (ASUS EZ Flash utility) and use a floppy with the file
> P5GD1.ROM but nothing is happening, the floppy is not reacting.
> While building all parts together I always touched a ground wire for
> eleminating electrostatic voltage.
> What are the next steps I can do, can someone please help me?
> Thanks
> Jef
>
> These parts are used:
> Housing:Aopen H600B Miditower Air Guide 1.1 350W power supply
> Motherboard:Asus P5GD1 Proactive S775 I915P DDR1 PCI-E
> Processor:Intel P4 550 3.4 Ghz BOX S775
> Hard drive:36 GB Western Digital Serial-ATA 10000rpm (should be the
> boot drive)
> Hard drive:200 GB Maxtor Serial-ATA 7200rpm (should be the data drive)
> Floppy: NEC
> DVD-RW :SONY
> Memory: 2 X 512mb DDR Kingston PC400
> VGA card:Asus EN6600/TD/256M PCI-Express
> Keyboard: Logitech Media keybord
> Mouse: Logitech MX310
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
December 13, 2004 12:51:43 PM

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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:26:05 -0500, Ender <byte_me@SBhotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>>What are the next steps I can do, can someone please help me?
>>Thanks
>>Jef
>>
....
>
>That's a nice selection of parts. Check to be absolutely certain that
>your heatsink fan assembly on the processor is making full contact.
>Be very gentle as the LGA form factor (I think that is what you have
>there from the numbers) is V.E.R.Y fragile. A system hang like
>that a minute or so into browsing the bios could indicate that the CPU
>was running hot.
>
>As suggested before, re-seat the memory modules. If a module is
>inserted a little bit flakey, slight board flex as the system warms up
>will result in system hangs or spontaneous reboots.
>
>I would also do as Johnnie suggested and clear the CMOS by following
>the procedure in your manual.
>
>If that does not correct it, the earlier post suggesting stripping the
>system down and adding one component at a time is a good approach to
>follow for diagnosing problems.
>
>Good luck, be patient... it should be a nice system when you get it up
>and running.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ender

Burned up CPU was my guess. Probably because I did that once. Got into
the bios, set a few innocuous things, then the bios screen froze. But
I smelled a bit of a burning smell. The OP didn't mention that.
!