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July 16, 2004 11:46:28 PM

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FYI to the dev group.

The latest group of Windows Updates continue to support my suspicion
that they break mouse drivers. After installing the latest updates the
mouse freezing issue has reappeared and is getting worse by the day.

I know the temp fix (uninstall all video and mouse drivers, reboot,
reinstall both again with reboots), but the the lead in the test group
really should be made aware of the associative issue.

--
Howie
"The very belief that violence is unavoidable
is a root cause of violence."
Samdhong Rinpoche
1st Democratically Elected Chairman of the
Tibetan Cabinet-in-Exile
Anonymous
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July 16, 2004 11:46:29 PM

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No problem with my computers with the new patches including the mice.
Yours is not a common complaint therefore it is most likely something
on your computer.

Are you installing the latest drivers?
Have the manufacturers updated their drivers lately.

Follow this:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"lllusion" <yeahright@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b6232dc8a462c2a989704@news.microsoft.com...
> FYI to the dev group.
>
> The latest group of Windows Updates continue to support my suspicion
> that they break mouse drivers. After installing the latest updates
the
> mouse freezing issue has reappeared and is getting worse by the day.
>
> I know the temp fix (uninstall all video and mouse drivers, reboot,
> reinstall both again with reboots), but the the lead in the test
group
> really should be made aware of the associative issue.
>
> --
> Howie
> "The very belief that violence is unavoidable
> is a root cause of violence."
> Samdhong Rinpoche
> 1st Democratically Elected Chairman of the
> Tibetan Cabinet-in-Exile
July 16, 2004 11:46:29 PM

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Yeah i was getting a similar problem, though in my case it was caused by my keyboard ( a cheap no brand multimedia one). Was not letting my mouse driver load in for some reason and xp was just hanging. Fixed by deleting keyboard driver and just setting it up as a standard ms 102 button keyboard
"lllusion" wrote:

> FYI to the dev group.
>
> The latest group of Windows Updates continue to support my suspicion
> that they break mouse drivers. After installing the latest updates the
> mouse freezing issue has reappeared and is getting worse by the day.
>
> I know the temp fix (uninstall all video and mouse drivers, reboot,
> reinstall both again with reboots), but the the lead in the test group
> really should be made aware of the associative issue.
>
> --
> Howie
> "The very belief that violence is unavoidable
> is a root cause of violence."
> Samdhong Rinpoche
> 1st Democratically Elected Chairman of the
> Tibetan Cabinet-in-Exile
>
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July 20, 2004 11:35:19 AM

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In article <epwI$51aEHA.752@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com says...
> No problem with my computers with the new patches including the mice.
> Yours is not a common complaint therefore it is most likely something
> on your computer.
>

As an MVP you should know as well as anyone that just because an issue
does not arise on one computer (in this case, yours) does not mean that
the issue does not exist. As for not being common, a look through the
last six months of posts in this group alone shows that there are a
number of similar mouse issues. Perhaps the windows updates are not the
problem but my problem solving has pointed me in that direction.
Regardless, dismissing the issue helps nobody. There's obviously a
problem that needs to be addressed and the dev teams should be notified.

--
Howie
"The very belief that violence is unavoidable
is a root cause of violence."
Samdhong Rinpoche
1st Democratically Elected Chairman of the
Tibetan Cabinet-in-Exile
Anonymous
a b \ Driver
July 20, 2004 11:35:20 AM

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If your intention is to contact Microsoft you are in the wrong forum.
Microsoft does not officially monitor these peer to peer newsgroups
although they do sometimes come by in their free time.

Also if I was going to dismiss it, I obviously would not have asked
the questions I asked.
Since you did not answer it seems apparent you want no solution, you
just want to gripe.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"lllusion" <yeahright@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> As an MVP you should know as well as anyone that just because an
issue
> does not arise on one computer (in this case, yours) does not mean
that
> the issue does not exist. As for not being common, a look through
the
> last six months of posts in this group alone shows that there are a
> number of similar mouse issues. Perhaps the windows updates are not
the
> problem but my problem solving has pointed me in that direction.
> Regardless, dismissing the issue helps nobody. There's obviously a
> problem that needs to be addressed and the dev teams should be
notified.
>
> --
> Howie
> "The very belief that violence is unavoidable
> is a root cause of violence."
> Samdhong Rinpoche
> 1st Democratically Elected Chairman of the
> Tibetan Cabinet-in-Exile
July 20, 2004 11:37:43 AM

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In article <92F1CF56-6FE3-48C2-8E6A-9421C964AA88@microsoft.com>,
Rob@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> Yeah i was getting a similar problem, though in my case it was caused by my keyboard ( a cheap no brand multimedia one). Was not letting my mouse driver load in for some reason and xp was just hanging. Fixed by deleting keyboard driver and just setting it up as a standard ms 102 button keyboard
>

Interesting, problem is that mine already is a standard/MS natural.

Note: I've been using the same hardware configuration for over a year
now with no issues until this spring. (And yes, complete wipe and re-
installs occur with relative regularity on my machines.)

--
Howie
"The very belief that violence is unavoidable
is a root cause of violence."
Samdhong Rinpoche
1st Democratically Elected Chairman of the
Tibetan Cabinet-in-Exile
July 21, 2004 1:44:14 AM

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In article <#gwzNAibEHA.2408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>,
jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com says...
> If your intention is to contact Microsoft you are in the wrong forum.
> Microsoft does not officially monitor these peer to peer newsgroups
> although they do sometimes come by in their free time.
>

Thanks for the reminder. I've used other official methods for contacting
Ms. My purpose hear was to give input via another channel, namely MVPs.
Knowing that MVPs do have contact with Ms (in a variety of ways) it was
my intent to help make you all aware of an issue--because the other
official methods does bypass you all.

> Also if I was going to dismiss it, I obviously would not have asked
> the questions I asked.

My apologies, in re-reading your post I see that I read into your post a
dismissal.

> Since you did not answer it seems apparent you want no solution, you
> just want to gripe.
>

Sorry, my thoughts failed to get into my post. I usually install the
latest drivers (sometimes internal testing reveals incompatibilities
thereby dismissing a driver update until the incompatibility is fixed).
However, in the case of IntelliMouse drivers I'm refraining from v5
because of the lack of functionality. (Problem solving has shown that
the v4.12 drivers do not themselves cause the mouse freezing issue.)

I'm not griping, just offering information. Maybe you wanted me to thank
you for the link. Thanks. It's all stuff that's part of regular
maintenance on my machines.

With all that said, I'm open to more knowledge-sharing ideas.

--
Howie
"The very belief that violence is unavoidable
is a root cause of violence."
Samdhong Rinpoche
1st Democratically Elected Chairman of the
Tibetan Cabinet-in-Exile
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