Help: PIII 733 or 1000 on P3B-F.

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Presently, I'm using a Cel300a OCed to 450Mhz without trouble, however, I'm
having difficulty getting either a PIII733Mhz or a PIII1000Mhz to work on it.

-Board revision is 1.03. I've updated the bios to 1008b4.
-Memory is PC133. Video card is AGP.

-For the 1000Mhz, I've tried 7.5x133, 7.5x100, and 7.5x66, with no success.

-For the 733, I've tried 5.5x133, 5.5x100, and 5.5x66 with no success.


Can anyone give me any pointers on why I'm having no success, and what I can
do to make this work?


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  1. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Only PCB Revision 1.04 will support those cpu's.
    Rev 1.03 will do up to PIII 600 mhz only.
    Sorry.
    Vic

    <a1b3r7a_lady@salmahayeksknockers.edu> wrote in message
    news:_A7xd.1676$uj2.1532@clgrps12...
    > Presently, I'm using a Cel300a OCed to 450Mhz without trouble, however,
    > I'm
    > having difficulty getting either a PIII733Mhz or a PIII1000Mhz to work on
    > it.
    >
    > -Board revision is 1.03. I've updated the bios to 1008b4.
    > -Memory is PC133. Video card is AGP.
    >
    > -For the 1000Mhz, I've tried 7.5x133, 7.5x100, and 7.5x66, with no
    > success.
    >
    > -For the 733, I've tried 5.5x133, 5.5x100, and 5.5x66 with no success.
    >
    >
    > Can anyone give me any pointers on why I'm having no success, and what I
    > can
    > do to make this work?
    >
    >
    > --
    > .............................................................................
    >
    > "Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian
    > state."
    >
    > -Noam Chomsky
    >
    > .............................................................................
    > dswan@m3m3t1ccand1ru.com
    > http://www.memeticcandiru.com
  2. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    In article <bIydnQ449NAgl1jcRVnyvg@giganews.com>,
    Vic <dtmaker@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >Only PCB Revision 1.04 will support those cpu's.
    >Rev 1.03 will do up to PIII 600 mhz only.

    Not true. My rev 1.03 P3B-F can run both a 800MHz Coppermine P3
    and a 1.4GHz Tualatin P3-S w/o issues.
    --
    Mikael Pettersson (mikpe@csd.uu.se)
    Computing Science Department, Uppsala University
  3. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Mikael Pettersson wrote:
    > In article <bIydnQ449NAgl1jcRVnyvg@giganews.com>,
    > Vic <dtmaker@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Only PCB Revision 1.04 will support those cpu's.
    >>Rev 1.03 will do up to PIII 600 mhz only.
    >
    >
    > Not true. My rev 1.03 P3B-F can run both a 800MHz Coppermine P3
    > and a 1.4GHz Tualatin P3-S w/o issues.

    ....but the Tualatin with an adapter, isn't it?! Or a 3rd party BIOS?!

    Roy
  4. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    In article <32lftdF3njdgnU1@individual.net>,
    Roy Coorne <RoyCoorne@yahoo.fr> wrote:
    >Mikael Pettersson wrote:
    >> In article <bIydnQ449NAgl1jcRVnyvg@giganews.com>,
    >> Vic <dtmaker@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Only PCB Revision 1.04 will support those cpu's.
    >>>Rev 1.03 will do up to PIII 600 mhz only.
    >>
    >>
    >> Not true. My rev 1.03 P3B-F can run both a 800MHz Coppermine P3
    >> and a 1.4GHz Tualatin P3-S w/o issues.
    >
    >...but the Tualatin with an adapter, isn't it?! Or a 3rd party BIOS?!

    Both with adapters since both are Socket370.

    Ah, so the OP meant w/o adapter? Yeah, then the mobo
    might be limited to Katmai and older chips.
    --
    Mikael Pettersson (mikpe@csd.uu.se)
    Computing Science Department, Uppsala University
  5. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@harpo.csd.uu.se> wrote:

    > Ah, so the OP meant w/o adapter? Yeah, then the mobo
    > might be limited to Katmai and older chips.

    Both Procs are retail Slot 1 PIII's, with no added hardware.

    What's the highest PIII I can run w/out extra HW/Adapaters?


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  6. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Check out http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx and
    click on "Query by Motherboard" for official ASUS info.

    But be sure to also check out
    http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html for a very
    good cpu upgrade guide for both p2b and p3b boards.

    Hope this helps.

    gb


    <a1b3r7a_lady@salmahayeksknockers.edu> wrote in message
    news:_A7xd.1676$uj2.1532@clgrps12...
    > Presently, I'm using a Cel300a OCed to 450Mhz without trouble, however,
    > I'm
    > having difficulty getting either a PIII733Mhz or a PIII1000Mhz to work on
    > it.
    >
    > -Board revision is 1.03. I've updated the bios to 1008b4.
    > -Memory is PC133. Video card is AGP.
    >
    > -For the 1000Mhz, I've tried 7.5x133, 7.5x100, and 7.5x66, with no
    > success.
    >
    > -For the 733, I've tried 5.5x133, 5.5x100, and 5.5x66 with no success.
    >
    >
    > Can anyone give me any pointers on why I'm having no success, and what I
    > can
    > do to make this work?
    >
    >
    > --
    > .............................................................................
    >
    > "Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian
    > state."
    >
    > -Noam Chomsky
    >
    > .............................................................................
    > dswan@m3m3t1ccand1ru.com
    > http://www.memeticcandiru.com
  7. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    your obviously using a slot-kit adapter as those cpu's will be socket
    370..., have you set it on auto ? Or perhaps it(slot-kit) may not
    support 133fsb cpu's ?? Some do not.
    If thats not the problem, then make sure there is no memory in bank-0.
    Set your ram to auto by spd (just to get things going...) and set the
    cpu setting to manual-133/33.
    Make sure you are using a pci video card. You cannot run an agp card
    on that board with fsb setting above 100mhz. The divider is a jumper
    set at 1/1(66mhz) or 2/3(100mhz-default). There is no 133mhz
    setting...
    good luck...


    On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:38:18 GMT, a1b3r7a_lady@salmahayeksknockers.edu
    wrote:

    >Presently, I'm using a Cel300a OCed to 450Mhz without trouble, however, I'm
    >having difficulty getting either a PIII733Mhz or a PIII1000Mhz to work on it.
    >
    >-Board revision is 1.03. I've updated the bios to 1008b4.
    >-Memory is PC133. Video card is AGP.
    >
    >-For the 1000Mhz, I've tried 7.5x133, 7.5x100, and 7.5x66, with no success.
    >
    >-For the 733, I've tried 5.5x133, 5.5x100, and 5.5x66 with no success.
    >
    >
    >Can anyone give me any pointers on why I'm having no success, and what I can
    >do to make this work?
  8. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    timmy wrote:
    > your obviously using a slot-kit adapter as those cpu's will be socket
    > 370..., have you set it on auto ? Or perhaps it(slot-kit) may not
    > support 133fsb cpu's ?? Some do not.
    > If thats not the problem, then make sure there is no memory in bank-0.
    > Set your ram to auto by spd (just to get things going...) and set the
    > cpu setting to manual-133/33.
    > Make sure you are using a pci video card. You cannot run an agp card
    > on that board with fsb setting above 100mhz. The divider is a jumper
    > set at 1/1(66mhz) or 2/3(100mhz-default). There is no 133mhz
    > setting...

    Well - I have overclocked a PIII 600 @ 800 (FSB133) on the P3B-F
    (Rev.1.04) with AGP video cards, the GeForce II MX e.g. or the Matrox
    G400 - the majority of cards have no prob with the AGP speed raised
    from 66 to 89 MHz (you may google for a particular card).

    I used good PC133 RAM (Crucial/Micron) and set the FSB to 133 in the
    BIOS manually.

    Roy
  9. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    I suppose some agp video cards will work, mine did not. Another
    problem I find when setting fsb to +133 mhz on the pb3-f is that the
    bios will not count the memory properly if one tries to overclock the
    133 fsb cpu. I can run my 667 @ 701 mhz, but then the memory will not
    all be counted. It's all cas 2 crucial memory and I have tried
    swapping banks. There must be some limitatation on the chipset where
    as the memory timing gets increased as you bump up the cpu fsb...or
    that the different timing settings just cannot function properly. Have
    you tried this ? Set your ram at 7ns/143mhz, then your cpu to the next
    +133 mhz setting which is 140/35. I get no errors or hangs and I can
    complete all pcmark tests, just without all the memory...wierd. The
    stock setting of 133/33 and memory at 7ns/143mhz (or spd) counts the
    memory fine...


    On Sat, 28 May 2005 01:12:46 +0200, Roy Coorne
    <roy.spam.coorne@gmx.net> wrote:

    >timmy wrote:
    >> your obviously using a slot-kit adapter as those cpu's will be socket
    >> 370..., have you set it on auto ? Or perhaps it(slot-kit) may not
    >> support 133fsb cpu's ?? Some do not.
    >> If thats not the problem, then make sure there is no memory in bank-0.
    >> Set your ram to auto by spd (just to get things going...) and set the
    >> cpu setting to manual-133/33.
    >> Make sure you are using a pci video card. You cannot run an agp card
    >> on that board with fsb setting above 100mhz. The divider is a jumper
    >> set at 1/1(66mhz) or 2/3(100mhz-default). There is no 133mhz
    >> setting...
    >
    >Well - I have overclocked a PIII 600 @ 800 (FSB133) on the P3B-F
    >(Rev.1.04) with AGP video cards, the GeForce II MX e.g. or the Matrox
    >G400 - the majority of cards have no prob with the AGP speed raised
    >from 66 to 89 MHz (you may google for a particular card).
    >
    >I used good PC133 RAM (Crucial/Micron) and set the FSB to 133 in the
    >BIOS manually.
    >
    >Roy
  10. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    "Roy Coorne" <roy.spam.coorne@gmx.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:3fpnrgF8mdqrU1@individual.net...

    > Well - I have overclocked a PIII 600 @ 800 (FSB133) on the P3B-F
    > (Rev.1.04) with AGP video cards, the GeForce II MX e.g. or the Matrox
    > G400 - the majority of cards have no prob with the AGP speed raised from
    > 66 to 89 MHz (you may google for a particular card).


    Have you heard something about the Matrox Millenium P750 or P650, if they
    are overclockable to 89MHz AGP Speed?
    My G450 here in my BX Board got to leave at 70MHz :-(


    Best Regards,

    Daniel Mandic
  11. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Matrox cards are known to be poor in overclocking.


    Daniel Mandic wrote:
    > "Roy Coorne" <roy.spam.coorne@gmx.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    > news:3fpnrgF8mdqrU1@individual.net...
    >
    >
    >>Well - I have overclocked a PIII 600 @ 800 (FSB133) on the P3B-F
    >>(Rev.1.04) with AGP video cards, the GeForce II MX e.g. or the Matrox
    >>G400 - the majority of cards have no prob with the AGP speed raised from
    >>66 to 89 MHz (you may google for a particular card).
    >
    >
    >
    > Have you heard something about the Matrox Millenium P750 or P650, if they
    > are overclockable to 89MHz AGP Speed?
    > My G450 here in my BX Board got to leave at 70MHz :-(
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Best Regards,
    >
    > Daniel Mandic
    >
    >
    >
  12. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    To the contrary, I've been through a dozen Matrox models
    and have never run into one that wouldn't do 89MHz. The
    only ones I've never tested are the Parhelias, but the G400,
    G400 Max, 450, 550 etc are all excellent overclockers.

    Now ATI, that's a totally different story. E.g. their Radeon
    9700/Pro chokes at anything much over stock 66MHz, as
    does the 9800.

    "Roy Sharif M. Sison" <roysharif@pacific.net.ph> wrote in message news:d79f4j$ln5$1@nobel.pacific.net.sg...
    > Matrox cards are known to be poor in overclocking.
    >
    >
    > Daniel Mandic wrote:
    > > "Roy Coorne" <roy.spam.coorne@gmx.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    > > news:3fpnrgF8mdqrU1@individual.net...
    > >
    > >
    > >>Well - I have overclocked a PIII 600 @ 800 (FSB133) on the P3B-F
    > >>(Rev.1.04) with AGP video cards, the GeForce II MX e.g. or the Matrox
    > >>G400 - the majority of cards have no prob with the AGP speed raised from
    > >>66 to 89 MHz (you may google for a particular card).
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Have you heard something about the Matrox Millenium P750 or P650, if they
    > > are overclockable to 89MHz AGP Speed?
    > > My G450 here in my BX Board got to leave at 70MHz :-(
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Best Regards,
    > >
    > > Daniel Mandic
    > >
    > >
    > >
  13. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Rick wrote:
    > To the contrary, I've been through a dozen Matrox models
    > and have never run into one that wouldn't do 89MHz. The
    > only ones I've never tested are the Parhelias, but the G400,
    > G400 Max, 450, 550 etc are all excellent overclockers.
    >
    > Now ATI, that's a totally different story. E.g. their Radeon
    > 9700/Pro chokes at anything much over stock 66MHz, as
    > does the 9800.

    A R9800 would in any case be an overkill to a P3B-F - and I'm not
    talking about the voltage problem.

    Roy
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