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Anonymous
July 19, 2004 5:06:13 PM

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My home PC, a DELL 2400 running XP Pro SP1, is starting to have its boot
disk fail. In an effort to reload my OS, etc., onto a new disk, I
encountered a problem loading the Dell Support software. It tells me
that I need to first install .NET framework by going to
windowsupdate.com, which is non-existent.

I looked around support.microsoft.com and couldn't find how to obtain
the .NET framework.

Also, does anyone have any ideas on how I can recover the data from my
dying disk? I forget the manufacturer of the disk, but it's an 80Gig-er
IDE drive that now makes a clicking noise when powered. Every once in a
rare while, it will work briefly. Any suggestions?

TIA,

Steve

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July 19, 2004 5:06:14 PM

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Hi,

Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.

To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd. As you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can clone the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.



--
Peter


"Steven C. Liu" wrote:

> My home PC, a DELL 2400 running XP Pro SP1, is starting to have its boot
> disk fail. In an effort to reload my OS, etc., onto a new disk, I
> encountered a problem loading the Dell Support software. It tells me
> that I need to first install .NET framework by going to
> windowsupdate.com, which is non-existent.
>
> I looked around support.microsoft.com and couldn't find how to obtain
> the .NET framework.
>
> Also, does anyone have any ideas on how I can recover the data from my
> dying disk? I forget the manufacturer of the disk, but it's an 80Gig-er
> IDE drive that now makes a clicking noise when powered. Every once in a
> rare while, it will work briefly. Any suggestions?
>
> TIA,
>
> Steve
>
>
Anonymous
July 19, 2004 5:54:16 PM

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Thanks Peter.

I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
going "click-click-click".

:-(

But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?

Steve

Peter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
> Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.
>
> To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd. As you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can clone the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.
>
>
>
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July 19, 2004 5:54:17 PM

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Steve,

Don't try that way or all data files may be lost for ever.
If the data files are so important for you, I would suggest you to stop doing anything and just power off the PC and then call the data recovery company ASAP.
Of course, it is expensive and there is no 100% guaranty that the company can save all the data files.

--
Peter


"Steven C. Liu" wrote:

> Thanks Peter.
>
> I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
> is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
> alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
> going "click-click-click".
>
> :-(
>
> But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
> file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
> HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?
>
> Steve
>
> Peter wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Start/All Programs/Windows Update,
> > Let windows scan for the update. after installed all the critcial update, click the other XP update, you can find the Microsoft Net Framework version 1.1 is there.
> >
> > To save the data on the dying Hdd, switch off the PC, disconnect the AC power cord. Open the chassis and then disconnect the dying Hdd. Jumper the Hdd as slave and then connect it to the other PC as slave then copy all the data from it to the other Hdd. As you said the Hdd is dying, I would suggest you to copy the files from the dying Hdd instead of using the move command to move the files. Always copy the most important files first. If you have Norton Ghost or other similar imaging software, you can clone the entire dying Hdd to other Hdd.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 19, 2004 6:25:37 PM

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"Steven C. Liu" <steve@legendcoin.com> wrote in message
news:40fc0ace$0$8086$a1866201@newsreader.dsl.net...
> Thanks Peter.
>
> I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
> is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
> alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
> going "click-click-click".
>
> :-(
>
> But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
> file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
> HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?
>
> Steve
>

Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest that
you not even try.

Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation CD.

Don
Anonymous
July 19, 2004 9:02:52 PM

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Ok, I will *not* try to tinker with that hard drive. Deprive me of some
fun!!! :-(

Thanks for the advice from everyone!

Steve

Don MI <> wrote:

> "Steven C. Liu" <steve@legendcoin.com> wrote in message
> news:40fc0ace$0$8086$a1866201@newsreader.dsl.net...
>
>>Thanks Peter.
>>
>>I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
>>is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
>>alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
>>going "click-click-click".
>>
>>:-(
>>
>>But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
>>file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
>>HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?
>>
>>Steve
>>
>
>
> Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest that
> you not even try.
>
> Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
> Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation CD.
>
> Don
>
>
Anonymous
July 19, 2004 10:34:24 PM

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> Any suggestions?

Get a new hard drive! The clicking noises sound a bit on the dubious side.
You could just try to copy as much to an external source as you possibly can
and then replace the drive, but there isn't masses that you can do with a
drive that is "physically" damaged, which is what is suggested with a drive
that is making strange sounds.

Nick.
Anonymous
July 19, 2004 10:34:25 PM

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Thanks. Yes, I have already ordered a new HD and am making sure that I
have backups from now on. My problem is that I have data on there that
I really would like to recover. Not a lot, but still important data.

I am contemplating taking the drive apart and seeing if I can fix that
clicking problem.

Steve

Nak wrote:

>>Any suggestions?
>
>
> Get a new hard drive! The clicking noises sound a bit on the dubious side.
> You could just try to copy as much to an external source as you possibly can
> and then replace the drive, but there isn't masses that you can do with a
> drive that is "physically" damaged, which is what is suggested with a drive
> that is making strange sounds.
>
> Nick.
>
>
Anonymous
July 20, 2004 2:51:12 AM

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Grrr...

I tried to install my dying HDD as a slave, but it wouldn't let me. I
tried various combos of enable/disable autospin and cable select vs
device 1. I even went to www.hgst.com to verify my jumpering of my
Deskstar IC35L090AVV207-0 ATA/IDE...

Nope, nada, nothing, nyet...

For what it's worth, I was trying to install into an old Dell Optiplex
GX1 whose other disk is a 30GB EIDE disk (I forget the
manufacturer/model) jumpered to device 0 (not CS).

I'm about to give up, yet I don't want to...

TIA,

Steve

Steven C. Liu wrote:
> Ok, I will *not* try to tinker with that hard drive. Deprive me of some
> fun!!! :-(
>
> Thanks for the advice from everyone!
>
> Steve
>
> Don MI <> wrote:
>
>> "Steven C. Liu" <steve@legendcoin.com> wrote in message
>> news:40fc0ace$0$8086$a1866201@newsreader.dsl.net...
>>
>>> Thanks Peter.
>>>
>>> I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
>>> is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
>>> alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
>>> going "click-click-click".
>>>
>>> :-(
>>>
>>> But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
>>> file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
>>> HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>> Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest that
>> you not even try.
>>
>> Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
>> Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation CD.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>
Anonymous
July 20, 2004 3:58:21 AM

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OK, first, make sure the first harddrive at the end of the IDE cable to
Master. Then set to second disk in the middle to Slave. Cable Select
only works in certain cases where the pin configuration and proper
cables are used.

Now, see if your BIOS recognizes both harddrives. When the computer
first boots up, you should see a POST (Power On Self Test) screen that
shows information. Are both of your drives listed there? If they aren't,
try entering the BIOS (by pressing whatever it tells you to which is
usually the DEL key or F1). You may also need to press the esc key to
bypass any OEM logos such as Dell or HP to see the POST screen. Once in
the BIOS, see if you can use an autodetect or set your IDE controllers
to auto. See if you can do anything to find the new harddrive, but be
careful not to change anything you don't know what it does.

Hopefully you can find it somewhere in there if it doesn't already
detect both drives. If the POST shows both drives, it is a software
issue that both aren't shown in Windows.

Use the good drive as the Master and make sure Windows XP is installed
on it. Set the second drive as Slave and boot up. You should be able to
just copy and paste the files over. If the drive doesn't appear, there
may be several causes for this. Chipset drivers, importing foreing
drives, or assigning a drive letter are all options you have if it isn't
recognized.

----
Nathan McNulty


Steven C. Liu wrote:
> Grrr...
>
> I tried to install my dying HDD as a slave, but it wouldn't let me. I
> tried various combos of enable/disable autospin and cable select vs
> device 1. I even went to www.hgst.com to verify my jumpering of my
> Deskstar IC35L090AVV207-0 ATA/IDE...
>
> Nope, nada, nothing, nyet...
>
> For what it's worth, I was trying to install into an old Dell Optiplex
> GX1 whose other disk is a 30GB EIDE disk (I forget the
> manufacturer/model) jumpered to device 0 (not CS).
>
> I'm about to give up, yet I don't want to...
>
> TIA,
>
> Steve
>
> Steven C. Liu wrote:
>
>> Ok, I will *not* try to tinker with that hard drive. Deprive me of
>> some fun!!! :-(
>>
>> Thanks for the advice from everyone!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Don MI <> wrote:
>>
>>> "Steven C. Liu" <steve@legendcoin.com> wrote in message
>>> news:40fc0ace$0$8086$a1866201@newsreader.dsl.net...
>>>
>>>> Thanks Peter.
>>>>
>>>> I will attempt to recover data from the dying HDD as you wrote, but it
>>>> is difficult since for the past 24+ hours that disk is more dead than
>>>> alive. That is, I can't get the computer to recognize it when it is
>>>> going "click-click-click".
>>>>
>>>> :-(
>>>>
>>>> But, I will keep on trying until it works. I need to recover my PST
>>>> file first and foremost! What do you all think of my taking apart the
>>>> HDD and tinkering with it? Any words of wisdom?
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Opening your hard drive will take you from bad to disaster. Suggest
>>> that
>>> you not even try.
>>>
>>> Frequently applications, such as your Dell software,that require .NET
>>> Framework will include .NET Framework in a folder on the installation
>>> CD.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Anonymous
July 20, 2004 4:50:25 AM

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I have watched hard drives being assembled from outside a clean room. I was
too dirty to access the clean room.

Don
!