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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:21:14 -0800, gerry <gerry_m@spam_this.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 01:56:17 +0100, Roland Scheidegger
><rscheidegger@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>>DDC wrote:
>>> Which one is the best one?
>>>
>>> I got this...
>>> AMD ATHLON64 3500+ (939 PINS) 364,00 $ cnd
>>> and
>>> ATHLON 64 3400+ (754 PINS) 1MB for 300$ cnd
>>>
>>> I would be tend to think that these two are clocked at the same speed
>>> (almost)... The only difference that i see is the socket. Is there one
>>> that as more feature?
>>
>>Both are fine cpus. Four A64 at around that speed grade exist:
>>A64 3400+, 1MB, 2.2Ghz, s754 (130nm, clawhammer)
>>A64 3400+, 512KB, 2.4Ghz, s754 (130nm, newcastle)
>>A64 3500+, 512KB, 2.2Ghz, s939 (130nm, newcastle)
>>A64 3500+, 512KB, 2.2Ghz, s939 (90nm, winchester)
>>
>>If you're going to get a socket 939 cpu, I would not recommend the older
>>newcastle chip. Winchester is very slightly faster, runs quite a bit
>>cooler (even the Newcastle is far easier to cool quietly than a P4
>>prescott though) and is not really more expensive, so there is no point
>>in getting the newcastle.
>>The socket 939 cpu 3500+ rating is not really completely justified imho.
>>There are quite a few cases where the 3400+ socket 754 cpu is faster
>>(especially the 512KB 2.4Ghz version, which tends to be slightly faster
>>than the 1MB 2.2Ghz version overall).
>>However, socket 939 is clearly the more "future-proof" version. If
>>you're going that route, I'd recommend a PCI-Express board to go along
>>with it.
>>
>>Roland
>
>I wouldn't worry too much about future proof, they are doing all they
>can to make everything obsolete as soon as possible. but....
>
>I'd probably recommend a 939 and a PCI express also. Went through the
>obsolete video card thing with the old local bus video a long time ago
>and it's ugly when you can't get a video card for your board any more.
>
>However, if you go low ball, you can get a pretty good motherboard
>cheap and update it in the future.
>
>I think it depends on your finances, but personally I wouldn't want to
>buy a $170 motherboard any more.
>
>My current motherboard is an Aopen AK86-L socket 754 and it's going
>for $64 at new egg. It won't overclock, but it's well made and rock
>solid. Being 64bit, it'll run linux for a long long time after you've
>upgraded your main box.
>
>http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-137-042&depa=0
>
If I was building today I'd try a 90nm (939) 3000+ or a 3500+.
..09 Athlon 64: Value, Speed and Overclocking
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2242
The 3500+ and the 3000+ (90nm) both topped out at about 2.6GHz with
default or modestly increased CPU voltage and air cooling.
Got a VNF3-250 here, stable up to 240MHz bus. $76 at newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-043&depa=0
Happy Holidays,
Ed
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