A8N-SLI Deluxe Cool n Quiet Broken

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I've been working on a spankin new A8N-SLI Deluxe, and cannot get AMD Cool n
Quiet to work. I've loaded all drivers from Asus, and using either the Asus
Cool n Quiet monitor or AMD's, they both show no reduction in processor
speed or voltage. I've tried both the current 1002 bios and the beta
1003.005. Cool & Quiet is enabled in the bios. This board has the latest
nForce4 chipset revison 3. I have installed the processor update on the
Asus CD, and also tried getting the one directly from AMD but it made no
difference. I'm thinking at this point it is broke. I notice that this
mobo doe NOT have AMD certification, but an Asus mobo based on the Via KT890
chipset does. Oddly the KT890 Mobo is not available at least yet, and no
info on it exists on Asus' website.

Anyone else get Cool n Quiet to work on this board or any other nForce4
board?


Athlon 64 3500+ Retail
1024 DDR 400 (512k x2, configured dual channel)
MSI 6600GT 128 PCIe, using nVidia 66.93 drivers (not MSI's)
450 watt Nspire PS
250 gig PATA
LiteOn DVDRW
XP home SP2

 

[Paul]

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In article <xKmdnSnXu4Ij03ncRVn-iA@comcast.com>, "RichH"
<richh-nospam-@wonu.fm> wrote:

> I've been working on a spankin new A8N-SLI Deluxe, and cannot get AMD Cool n
> Quiet to work. I've loaded all drivers from Asus, and using either the Asus
> Cool n Quiet monitor or AMD's, they both show no reduction in processor
> speed or voltage. I've tried both the current 1002 bios and the beta
> 1003.005. Cool & Quiet is enabled in the bios. This board has the latest
> nForce4 chipset revison 3. I have installed the processor update on the
> Asus CD, and also tried getting the one directly from AMD but it made no
> difference. I'm thinking at this point it is broke. I notice that this
> mobo doe NOT have AMD certification, but an Asus mobo based on the Via KT890
> chipset does. Oddly the KT890 Mobo is not available at least yet, and no
> info on it exists on Asus' website.
>
> Anyone else get Cool n Quiet to work on this board or any other nForce4
> board?
>
>
> Athlon 64 3500+ Retail
> 1024 DDR 400 (512k x2, configured dual channel)
> MSI 6600GT 128 PCIe, using nVidia 66.93 drivers (not MSI's)
> 450 watt Nspire PS
> 250 gig PATA
> LiteOn DVDRW
> XP home SP2

Judging by this description, from someone building up the board
on Dec 19 of last year, the BIOS needs a lot of work. See post
#72.

http://abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=957260&postcount=72

I doubt the motherboard itself has anything to do with your
problems. The FID/VID adjustment for CNQ is inside the processor,
and I doubt the LDTSTOP function used during a transition is
broken, as it is needed for startup of the processor at POST.

The problem could be BIOS, driver, dashboard, ACPI etc.
ACPI must be enabled and the ACPI HAL used during your
OS install. (And try SP1 first, in case this is an SP2
issue.)

AFAIK, you cannot overclock and run CNQ at the same time. If
you are overclocking, try returning to more standard settings.
You might also examine some of the more innocent looking BIOS
settings, in case they are interfering with CNQ.

Hypertransport Frequency [Auto]
Plug n' Play O/S [no]
Overclock Profile [experiment with Auto and Standard]
CPU multiplier [Auto] <--- these are controlled
CPU Voltage [Auto] <--- by CNQ

Patience and persistence. The tools of the early adopter...

BTW - The slew of beta BIOS (five of them) on the
download page under BIOS/beta is humorous. Is that the
only way they can think of, to say "we're working on it" ?
Methinks they're feeling guilty.

http://usa.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A8N-SLI%20Deluxe&Type=All

If you are up for it, there is a 1005.006 queued on the
Germany site. It is dated Monday Jan10, 2005.

ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUScom/BIOS/Socket_939/NVIDIA_Chipset/nForce4_SLI/A8N-SLI_Deluxe/1003sd06.zip

Paul

 

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Ye, I have it working here on my A8N-SLI. There is definitely a reduction
in clock speed when the system is idle. You need to:

Go into the Windows Control Panel
Go to Power Options
Choose MINIMAL POWER MANAGEMENT

Jon

"RichH" <richh-nospam-@wonu.fm> wrote in message
news:xKmdnSnXu4Ij03ncRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> I've been working on a spankin new A8N-SLI Deluxe, and cannot get AMD Cool
n
> Quiet to work. I've loaded all drivers from Asus, and using either the
Asus
> Cool n Quiet monitor or AMD's, they both show no reduction in processor
> speed or voltage. I've tried both the current 1002 bios and the beta
> 1003.005. Cool & Quiet is enabled in the bios. This board has the latest
> nForce4 chipset revison 3. I have installed the processor update on the
> Asus CD, and also tried getting the one directly from AMD but it made no
> difference. I'm thinking at this point it is broke. I notice that this
> mobo doe NOT have AMD certification, but an Asus mobo based on the Via
KT890
> chipset does. Oddly the KT890 Mobo is not available at least yet, and no
> info on it exists on Asus' website.
>
> Anyone else get Cool n Quiet to work on this board or any other nForce4
> board?
>
>
> Athlon 64 3500+ Retail
> 1024 DDR 400 (512k x2, configured dual channel)
> MSI 6600GT 128 PCIe, using nVidia 66.93 drivers (not MSI's)
> 450 watt Nspire PS
> 250 gig PATA
> LiteOn DVDRW
> XP home SP2
>
>

 

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"40 PC SOCKET SET" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:41e45b62$0$16582$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
Ye, I have it working here on my A8N-SLI. There is definitely a
reduction
in clock speed when the system is idle. You need to:

Go into the Windows Control Panel
Go to Power Options
Choose MINIMAL POWER MANAGEMENT

Jon

"RichH" <richh-nospam-@wonu.fm> wrote in message
news:xKmdnSnXu4Ij03ncRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> I've been working on a spankin new A8N-SLI Deluxe, and cannot get
AMD Cool
n
> Quiet to work. I've loaded all drivers from Asus, and using either
the
Asus
> Cool n Quiet monitor or AMD's, they both show no reduction in
processor
> speed or voltage. I've tried both the current 1002 bios and the
beta
> 1003.005. Cool & Quiet is enabled in the bios. This board has the
latest
> nForce4 chipset revison 3. I have installed the processor update on
the
> Asus CD, and also tried getting the one directly from AMD but it
made no
> difference. I'm thinking at this point it is broke. I notice that
this
> mobo doe NOT have AMD certification, but an Asus mobo based on the
Via
KT890
> chipset does. Oddly the KT890 Mobo is not available at least yet,
and no
> info on it exists on Asus' website.
>
> Anyone else get Cool n Quiet to work on this board or any other
nForce4
> board?
>
>
> Athlon 64 3500+ Retail
> 1024 DDR 400 (512k x2, configured dual channel)
> MSI 6600GT 128 PCIe, using nVidia 66.93 drivers (not MSI's)
> 450 watt Nspire PS
> 250 gig PATA
> LiteOn DVDRW
> XP home SP2

Choosing Minimal Power Management does the trick! Thanks Jon!

 

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Paul wrote:
> Paul

Hi Paul, how come you know so much about everything?

I remember you arriving here, it was a little before I disappeared for a
bit, and your answers have always been extremely detailed and knowledgable.

You're an asset to the newsgroup.

Ben
--
A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...

 

[Ed]

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:10:49 -0000, "Ben Pope"
<ben_popeREMOVE_ME@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Paul wrote:
>> Paul
>
>Hi Paul, how come you know so much about everything?
>
>I remember you arriving here, it was a little before I disappeared for a
>bit, and your answers have always been extremely detailed and knowledgable.
>
>You're an asset to the newsgroup.
>
>Ben

I've said that many times as well, sure hope Paul doesn't ever leave us!
Ed

 

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Just a couple of other notes of interest after I got Cool & Quiet
working thanks to Jon's suggestion:

1. AMD's Cool & Quiet monitoring software(dated 11-2004)slows the
boot time by maybe a minute or more, as observed by how long it takes
for the network icons to show up in the system tray. This slowdown
occurs even if the application is not running. Uninstallation fixes
the problem.

2. Asus made their own Cool & Quiet monitor software, included on the
Mobo CD. It looks a lot cooler than AMD's and does not slow down the
system. It does however not show as much information as AMD's
utility. Perhaps the Asus engineers tested the AMD utility and had the
same problems, and then made their own instead. Go Asus!


"40 PC SOCKET SET" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:41e45b62$0$16582$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
Ye, I have it working here on my A8N-SLI. There is definitely a
reduction
in clock speed when the system is idle. You need to:

Go into the Windows Control Panel
Go to Power Options
Choose MINIMAL POWER MANAGEMENT

Jon

"RichH" <richh-nospam-@wonu.fm> wrote in message
news:xKmdnSnXu4Ij03ncRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> I've been working on a spankin new A8N-SLI Deluxe, and cannot get
AMD Cool n Quiet to work.
> Anyone else get Cool n Quiet to work on this board or any other
nForce4
> board?
>
>
> Athlon 64 3500+ Retail
> 1024 DDR 400 (512k x2, configured dual channel)
> MSI 6600GT 128 PCIe, using nVidia 66.93 drivers (not MSI's)
> 450 watt Nspire PS
> 250 gig PATA
> LiteOn DVDRW
> XP home SP2

Choosing Minimal Power Management does the trick! Thanks Jon!

 

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RichH wrote:
> "40 PC SOCKET SET" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:41e45b62$0$16582$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> Ye, I have it working here on my A8N-SLI. There is definitely a
> reduction
> in clock speed when the system is idle. You need to:
>
> Go into the Windows Control Panel
> Go to Power Options
> Choose MINIMAL POWER MANAGEMENT

Also, you do indeed seem to need the AMD version of the processor driver
installed - the one that Windows installs by default, though recognizing
the CPU, doesn't seem to do any clock speed control so it stays at full
all the time..

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/

 

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Very pleased to hear it.

I think term "MINIMAL POWER MANAGEMENT" is very misleading and open to
misinterpretation. When I first saw the term I thoughit meant that I would
be applying the minimal amount of power management, and not managing the
power to achieve minimum consumption.

Jon

"RichH" <richh-nospam-@wonu.fm> wrote in message
news:lMqdncyHxqk3EnjcRVn-og@comcast.com...
>
> "40 PC SOCKET SET" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:41e45b62$0$16582$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> Ye, I have it working here on my A8N-SLI. There is definitely a
> reduction
> in clock speed when the system is idle. You need to:
>
> Go into the Windows Control Panel
> Go to Power Options
> Choose MINIMAL POWER MANAGEMENT
>
> Jon
>
> "RichH" <richh-nospam-@wonu.fm> wrote in message
> news:xKmdnSnXu4Ij03ncRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > I've been working on a spankin new A8N-SLI Deluxe, and cannot get
> AMD Cool
> n
> > Quiet to work. I've loaded all drivers from Asus, and using either
> the
> Asus
> > Cool n Quiet monitor or AMD's, they both show no reduction in
> processor
> > speed or voltage. I've tried both the current 1002 bios and the
> beta
> > 1003.005. Cool & Quiet is enabled in the bios. This board has the
> latest
> > nForce4 chipset revison 3. I have installed the processor update on
> the
> > Asus CD, and also tried getting the one directly from AMD but it
> made no
> > difference. I'm thinking at this point it is broke. I notice that
> this
> > mobo doe NOT have AMD certification, but an Asus mobo based on the
> Via
> KT890
> > chipset does. Oddly the KT890 Mobo is not available at least yet,
> and no
> > info on it exists on Asus' website.
> >
> > Anyone else get Cool n Quiet to work on this board or any other
> nForce4
> > board?
> >
> >
> > Athlon 64 3500+ Retail
> > 1024 DDR 400 (512k x2, configured dual channel)
> > MSI 6600GT 128 PCIe, using nVidia 66.93 drivers (not MSI's)
> > 450 watt Nspire PS
> > 250 gig PATA
> > LiteOn DVDRW
> > XP home SP2
>
> Choosing Minimal Power Management does the trick! Thanks Jon!
>
>

 

[Paul]

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In article <34l7haF4cj4lnU1@individual.net>, "Ben Pope"
<ben_popeREMOVE_ME@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Paul wrote:
> > Paul
>
> Hi Paul, how come you know so much about everything?
>
> I remember you arriving here, it was a little before I disappeared for a
> bit, and your answers have always been extremely detailed and knowledgable.
>
> You're an asset to the newsgroup.
>
> Ben

My brain is stored in Google, so I don't have to remember
anything

If I ever get another job, I'm outta here.

Paul

 

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Paul wrote:

> If you are up for it, there is a 1005.006 queued on the
> Germany site. It is dated Monday Jan10, 2005.

Note that you need a new version of the flash util (DOS and Windows) to
flash that version on the board, and that new version is also somewhere
on the german FTP site.

I'd avoid the 1005.006 beta, as many ppl here - including me - got boot
up problems (and BSOD's) with it. My system wouldn't boot up properly
four out of five times. I went back to 1005.005. That one works for me.