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More info?)
Thanks for the info! Well I don't have any spare parts lying around other
than possibly the GFTi4200 I have in my system now. But that would mean I
have to buy a cheap AGP card to replace it with.
i like your idea of determining which is most popular. Regarding your
analysis I think actually the 915P is more popular than you said it is,
since if you combine the two 915P motherboard you get a total of 2000+
downloads. And as for 915P vs. 915G ... after a little more research I
notice 915G is the same as 915P but with integrated graphics. So I would
even pay a little more for 915G since I've found having backup graphics is
useful sometimes (especially now since I haven't decided on a video card
yet). Also notice the price is around the same ... the p5gdc-v deluxe seems
to be the same price as the 915P ones more or less.
"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-0702051241310001@192.168.1.177...
> In article <soJNd.1425$504.186010@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Jojo"
> <josNOSPAM555@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm having a big headache trying to decide which motherboard to buy.
>> I'll
>> likely buy an ASUS or ABIT eventhough I've had bad luck with Asus boards
>> in
>> the past (but looks like it's still the popular one these days). And
>> will
>> probably go with LGA775 since it seems to be a replacement to the older
>> ones.
>>
>> So now I find many different chipsets out now .. 915P, 915G, 925X, 925XE,
>> etc. Which one is the "most economical for end users" and thus most
>> popular? I do not need features like RAID or dual LAN but would like the
>> latest technology to maximize life of system in terms of upgrades
>>
>> Also will they work with an Antec Phantom 350W PSU or will I need an
>> adapter?
>
> To measure popularity, you can visit the download page.
> (Note: This metric is all I've got, as you aren't likely
> to find sales figures anywhere.)
>
>
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/download.aspx
>
> Pop in the model name, and select "All" for filetype.
> Then, select a file by clicking it. You will see a
> web page that offers you four servers to download from.
> At the bottom of the page, is a field that says how many
> times the file has been downloaded.
>
> Here, I tried to pick a representative file. The file
> chosen, is the chipset driver file for the board. Now,
> a customer could go to the Intel or Via website, and also
> get the file, but I'll assume the same percentage of
> customers stick with the Asus site.
>
> p5ad2-e premium 925xe inf6211001.zip 1051 downloads
> p5ad2 premium 925x inf6211001.zip 141 downloads
> p5gdc deluxe 915p inf6211001.zip 1074 downloads
> p5gd2 premium 915p inf6011002.zip 1084 downloads
> p5gdc-v deluxe 915g inf6211001.zip 1145 downloads
>
> A8V Deluxe S939 4in1_449p3.zip 5318 downloads
> K8V SE Deluxe S754 4in1_449.zip 6062 downloads
>
> The last two items are AMD boards.
>
> Obviously, a person who can afford to buy the 925x, can
> afford whatever extra it costs for a 925xe. So, that result
> is easy to explain. What I cannot explain, is why the 915p
> boards aren't more popular. I would expect (without checking
> it), that the 915p boards are cheaper than their 925
> counterparts, and judging by how price conscious people on
> this newsgroup are, that should make the 915p more attractive.
> Maybe the Asus 915p boards are just too expensive compared
> to the competition, and some other vendor is more popular ?
>
> Something to remember when comparing boards, is Asus has
> covered many different combinations of PCI-Express/AGP,
> DDR/DDR2, LGA775/S478 and so on. The price adder for some
> of these options, makes a big difference to many customers,
> and not many people want to buy a new LGA775 processor,
> a high end PCI-Express video card, and some DDR2 memory,
> when they have some perfectly good S478 processor, AGP
> Video card, and DDR memory sitting around. So, what you
> decide to buy, could be influenced by what parts you
> currently own. If that is not the case, then buy a
> p5ad2-e premium, and go "all new tech".
>
> One you didn't mention, is the P5P800. It uses an 865PE
> Northbridge, and is similar to a P4P800, only it has
> the newer LGA775 processor socket on it. Since only the
> socket is upgraded, you could take all the parts off a
> previous generation S478 system, buy a new LGA775 processor,
> and build a system that way. That might be a bit more
> cost effective than going with the P5xxx crowd.
>
> To answer your power supply question, really requires
> knowledge of what video card you have in mind. A high end
> ATI card uses 3.3A from +12V, and a high end Nvidia card
> uses 4.5A from +12V. The TDP is 84W or 115W for the Intel
> LGA775 processors (it is a function of core frequency),
> and assuming 90% conversion efficiency, that is 7.8A or
> 10.6A from the +12V supply. So far, that means 11..15 amps
> for a processor and a high end video card. Disk drives and
> fans will add more amps to the requirement. Rather than shop
> by total power, it is better to work out the amps needed,
> and in this case (Intel P4), +12V has the heavy load on it.
> If your existing supply isn't good for at least 15 amps
> on the +12V output, I'd be shopping for something with more
> output.
>
> Here is a sample table of Antec Truepower numbers. You can
> see that even though the total power is increasing pretty
> rapidly, the current available on the +12V isn't really
> going up that much. That is why I'd rather compare the
> current numbers themselves, to another brand, for
> shopping purposes.
>
> VOLTAGE +5V +12V +3.3V -5V -12V +5VSB
> TRUE330 30A 17A 28A 0.5A 1.0A 2.0A
> TRUE380 35A 18A 28A 0.5A 1.0A 2.0A
> TRUE430 36A 20A 28A 0.5A 1.0A 2.0A
> TRUE480 38A 22A 30A 1.5A 1.0A 2.0A
> TRUE550 40A 24A 32A 0.5A 1.0A 2.0A
>
> Something else to note. Power is current times volts, and if
> you sum all the output powers on the Truepower table above,
> it adds up to more than the rated power. This is good, because
> on a given computer, only one output is really heavily loaded,
> and you'll run out of amperes before you run out of watts.
> You will find some other brands, state their "power" as being
> exactly equal to the sum of all the outputs, and that makes
> their power rating worth about 60% of a properly rated supply
> like the Antec above. (This is because you cannot draw the max
> from all the outputs at the same time, so adding the powers
> directly is not correct. The power supply is limited by
> overheating, and the real power it offers stops before all
> outputs go to max.) What it boils down to, is stick with
> brand name supplies, if you expect to get something with
> representative ratings. After all, there has to be a reason
> that one company can offer a "550W" power supply for only $26.
>
> HTH,
> Paul
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