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A8N-Sli Deluxe Post Issues Part II

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February 11, 2005 3:27:02 AM

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Here's my setup:

Case: Antec P160
Power Supply: Antec True550 ( using a 20 -> 24 pin connector )
Mobo: Asus A8N-Sli Deluxe
CPU: Athlon 64 3500+ 90nm
CPU Fan: Zalman CPS7000B
Memory: Corsair 2x 3200 CMX512-3200XPLT
Hard drives: 2x Western Digital WD740 Raptor
DVD-R: Samsung 16x dual layer
Grafx Card: Leadtek PX6800 GT TDH

After the board did not spit out any more vocal post errors, I exchanged it
at Fry's. From there I took the recommendations in Paul's excellent post.
With the mobo on a piece of cardboard, I carefully put one component in at a
time, switching off and unplugging the power cord and running the a POST
test between each additional component. The power fired up just fine
everytime touching a screw driver to the power pins. CPU, ram, card, usb
keyboard, floppy...all good. Output to the monitor and checking the BIOS, I
confirmed the SATA drive was recognized.

The case comes with a seperate metal plate that attaches to the mobo and is
inserted into the case. So, I attached the mobo to this plate and ran a
POST test ( still outside of the case ) and received a vocal POST error
message, "System failed memory test." With one stick and two. Removing the
plate and everything fires up again just fine. I confirmed that this was
the isolated problem three times. Every time the plate was attached to the
mobo I received the memory error. Every time it was not, the POST ran just
fine. I use an anti-ESB wristband attached to the plate when I attach it
and the plate and mobo sit on a piece of cardboard on my desk. I disconnect
the power cord before I attach it. Another issue I have is that the ASUS EZ
Flash utility does not respond to the ENTER key after pressing Alt+F2.

So, at this point my decision is to have a beer and post here. I greatly
appreciate any and all suggestions.

Thank you,
PJ

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Anonymous
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February 11, 2005 1:15:13 PM

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PJ wrote:
> Here's my setup:
>
> Case: Antec P160
> Power Supply: Antec True550 ( using a 20 -> 24 pin connector )
> Mobo: Asus A8N-Sli Deluxe
> CPU: Athlon 64 3500+ 90nm
> CPU Fan: Zalman CPS7000B
> Memory: Corsair 2x 3200 CMX512-3200XPLT
> Hard drives: 2x Western Digital WD740 Raptor
> DVD-R: Samsung 16x dual layer
> Grafx Card: Leadtek PX6800 GT TDH
>
> After the board did not spit out any more vocal post errors, I exchanged it
> at Fry's. From there I took the recommendations in Paul's excellent post.
> With the mobo on a piece of cardboard, I carefully put one component in at a
> time, switching off and unplugging the power cord and running the a POST
> test between each additional component. The power fired up just fine
> everytime touching a screw driver to the power pins. CPU, ram, card, usb
> keyboard, floppy...all good. Output to the monitor and checking the BIOS, I
> confirmed the SATA drive was recognized.
>
> The case comes with a seperate metal plate that attaches to the mobo and is
> inserted into the case. So, I attached the mobo to this plate and ran a
> POST test ( still outside of the case ) and received a vocal POST error
> message, "System failed memory test." With one stick and two. Removing the
> plate and everything fires up again just fine. I confirmed that this was
> the isolated problem three times. Every time the plate was attached to the
> mobo I received the memory error. Every time it was not, the POST ran just
> fine. I use an anti-ESB wristband attached to the plate when I attach it
> and the plate and mobo sit on a piece of cardboard on my desk. I disconnect
> the power cord before I attach it. Another issue I have is that the ASUS EZ
> Flash utility does not respond to the ENTER key after pressing Alt+F2.
>
> So, at this point my decision is to have a beer and post here. I greatly
> appreciate any and all suggestions.

It seems your backplate somehow shorts something somewhere to create the
memory failure. Either that, or the backplate bends the board slightly
causing some contact somewhere to fail. Either way, it's odd...
You could try to create some sort of isolation between the board and the
backplate, like a plastic or paper layer between the two. That'd be my
next move anyway.

No clue why the EZ Flash util doesn't work. So far, I've done all my
BIOS upgrades using the ASUSUPDATE tool in Windows, so can't help ya there.

Hope the beer gives some relief ;) 
February 11, 2005 6:53:48 PM

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:14:14 -0800, "PJ" <pjNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I swear...you think these manufacturers would have these basics down by now.
>Of the three computers I have put together...I have never had a motherboard
>fit easily into the case, despite the research and recommendations I usually
>take from tomshardware and the like.
>
>Thanks!

Sounds like you go the wrong backplate or something? It should take you
longer to install windows then build the PC! ;p

good luck,
Ed
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February 11, 2005 6:53:49 PM

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Absolutely...although the initial installation was the fastest I've seen
yet! Love my new setup...

"Ed" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o m9q01tcpi60aoef3d81q7qdk8jb1v6k4t@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:14:14 -0800, "PJ" <pjNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I swear...you think these manufacturers would have these basics down by
now.
> >Of the three computers I have put together...I have never had a
motherboard
> >fit easily into the case, despite the research and recommendations I
usually
> >take from tomshardware and the like.
> >
> >Thanks!
>
> Sounds like you go the wrong backplate or something? It should take you
> longer to install windows then build the PC! ;p
>
> good luck,
> Ed
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 12, 2005 2:30:18 PM

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PJ wrote:
> You're a genius.

Hear hear.

> Because of you I stayed up all night setting up my new
> computer and had to come in late to work ;-P.

Dude, I almost feel guilty... almost. ;) 

> The mobo was in fact being bent a bit as I screwed it onto the backplate.
<snip>
> I swear...you think these manufacturers would have these basics down by now.
> Of the three computers I have put together...I have never had a motherboard
> fit easily into the case, despite the research and recommendations I usually
> take from tomshardware and the like.

I find the whole concept of a huge plastic or metal box, in which you
consequently shove several components that are sensitive to (static)
electrical currents without any protective means (around the parts I
mean), and use all sorts of different screws, clips, sockets, plugs, and
what more to keep it all together, simply very outdated. I think your
little 'adventure' shows how outdated it really is.
February 13, 2005 6:31:50 PM

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I just got this MB and assembled in an Antec case with 380 W PS. The
setup will not boot at all. The light on the MB comes on, the fans are
running etc. I used a 20 pin to 24 pin adapter and also plugged in the
12v coonector. I cleared the CMOS several times. I tried connecting the
lime color out line to a speaker to hear the POST message, but nothing
comes on. There is no BIOS beep. I installed a 6600GT PCI-E card but I
guess without any POST code, it may not be relevant. Any help?

I read in another board that trying with a new power supply might
help. Is that true?

Ravi
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 15, 2005 5:57:00 AM

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>> I swear...you think these manufacturers would have these basics down by
>> now.
>> Of the three computers I have put together...I have never had a
>> motherboard
>> fit easily into the case, despite the research and recommendations I
>> usually
>> take from tomshardware and the like.
>
> I find the whole concept of a huge plastic or metal box, in which you
> consequently shove several components that are sensitive to (static)
> electrical currents without any protective means (around the parts I
> mean), and use all sorts of different screws, clips, sockets, plugs, and
> what more to keep it all together, simply very outdated. I think your
> little 'adventure' shows how outdated it really is.

Yes, of the 3 times I've put together a computer in the last 10 years, I've
learned something new each time. As far as the physical part of putting
computer together, the only thing I really appreciate are the SATA cables.
Why the hell is the floppy disk not gone yet?
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 16, 2005 3:04:25 PM

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> Why the hell is the floppy disk not gone yet?

Because Windows 2000 is still around and if you need to press F6 to install
additional drivers to allow the setup program to work (e.g. SATA drivers)
then you must have a floppy disk. The reason? The setup program can *only*
read off the A: drive - you can't tell it (say) to read off another CD-ROM.
It caught me out with a server.

Rob.
Anonymous
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February 17, 2005 7:29:13 PM

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:04:25 +0000 (UTC), "Rob Nicholson"
<rob.nicholson@NOSPAM_informed-direct.com> wrote:

>> Why the hell is the floppy disk not gone yet?
>
>Because Windows 2000 is still around and if you need to press F6 to install
>additional drivers to allow the setup program to work (e.g. SATA drivers)
>then you must have a floppy disk. The reason? The setup program can *only*
>read off the A: drive - you can't tell it (say) to read off another CD-ROM.
>It caught me out with a server.
>
>Rob.
>
An OEM driver can be incorporated into the Windows Disk it is not an
easy job but there are programs out there that make it easier try a
program called nlite makes slipstreaming SP's easier as well.
!