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February 18, 2005 2:42:15 AM

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I'm trying to install windows xp home on my first SATA drive. The
install is failing with an error message saying that the installer can't
create a partition due to a bad hard drive.

I know that the hard drives are fine, so I think that it's a driver issue.

First of all, the first partition is a primary partition, and I put an
extended partition on partition 2. I'm still able to create a primary
partition on partition 3. Can this be an issue, putting a primary
partition after an extended one?

I'm using SATA but no RAID. I made a driver disk from the
"Drivers/VIARAID/DriverDisk/MakeDisk.exe" directory of the CD that came
with the motherboard. There is no corresponding executable to make a
driver disk for SATA without RAID. Am I using the right driver?

Thanks for any help.

Stephen
February 18, 2005 11:02:51 AM

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RonK wrote:
> The sata drivers are on the motherboard cd.

Feel free to assume I'm an idiot and need more details.

Is it in the SATARAID directory or the SATA directory of the CD? I
don't use RAID but want to use SATA. Is it a question of copying files
to a blank diskette or does there need to be a special disk image put
on the floppy?

The makedisk utility on the CD does not put SATA drivers that work for
me on the floppy. I see partitions with the windows xp service pack 2
installer, but when I try to format one the format doesn't succeed. I
get a message saying that the drive is damaged.

I don't believe this message since I use it for linux every day. I
suspect that the drivers are for RAID SATA only and I'm not using the
RAID controller. I don't know how to install the non-RAID drivers.

Stephen
Anonymous
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February 18, 2005 12:02:18 PM

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Stephen Boulet wrote:
> I'm trying to install windows xp home on my first SATA drive. The
> install is failing with an error message saying that the installer can't
> create a partition due to a bad hard drive.
>
> I know that the hard drives are fine, so I think that it's a driver issue.
>
> First of all, the first partition is a primary partition, and I put an
> extended partition on partition 2. I'm still able to create a primary
> partition on partition 3. Can this be an issue, putting a primary
> partition after an extended one?
>
> I'm using SATA but no RAID. I made a driver disk from the
> "Drivers/VIARAID/DriverDisk/MakeDisk.exe" directory of the CD that came
> with the motherboard. There is no corresponding executable to make a
> driver disk for SATA without RAID. Am I using the right driver?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Stephen

The main question is: which drivers do I use for SATA without RAID? Is
it the 4in1?

Stephen
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 18, 2005 1:04:46 PM

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The sata drivers are on the motherboard cd.

"Stephen Boulet" <stephen_at@nospam.theboulets.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Boulet wrote:
>> I'm trying to install windows xp home on my first SATA drive. The install
>> is failing with an error message saying that the installer can't create a
>> partition due to a bad hard drive.
>>
>> I know that the hard drives are fine, so I think that it's a driver
>> issue.
>>
>> First of all, the first partition is a primary partition, and I put an
>> extended partition on partition 2. I'm still able to create a primary
>> partition on partition 3. Can this be an issue, putting a primary
>> partition after an extended one?
>>
>> I'm using SATA but no RAID. I made a driver disk from the
>> "Drivers/VIARAID/DriverDisk/MakeDisk.exe" directory of the CD that came
>> with the motherboard. There is no corresponding executable to make a
>> driver disk for SATA without RAID. Am I using the right driver?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Stephen
>
> The main question is: which drivers do I use for SATA without RAID? Is it
> the 4in1?
>
> Stephen
February 18, 2005 5:01:37 PM

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> It sounds like the right driver, though I recall some m/bs having
two RAID
> controllers, where one is SATA only/better/easier to configure
than the
> other.

Hmm, if it's the right driver then I don't know exactly what the issue
is. I do not right now enable RAID in the bios since I'm not using it.
Maybe I need to have the controller enabled but put in an unused mode.
The reason I was thinking I had the wrong driver is that it says
SATARAID.

IIRC my third active partition was identified as C:.


> The other method of installing devices such as SATA without
resorting to a
> floppy disc is to create a custom XP installation CD with the driver
on it

At this point I'd be happy to know that I'm actually using the correct
driver for my A7V880 board. It's not clear to me that I am.

Thanks for the post, btw.

Stephen
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 18, 2005 8:18:01 PM

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Is your hard drive a SATA or IDE drive ?
If it is a SATA you need the SATA controller enabled in bios.

<stephen@theboulets.net> wrote in message
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>
> > It sounds like the right driver, though I recall some m/bs having
> two RAID
> > controllers, where one is SATA only/better/easier to configure
> than the
> > other.
>
> Hmm, if it's the right driver then I don't know exactly what the issue
> is. I do not right now enable RAID in the bios since I'm not using it.
> Maybe I need to have the controller enabled but put in an unused mode.
> The reason I was thinking I had the wrong driver is that it says
> SATARAID.
>
> IIRC my third active partition was identified as C:.
>
>
> > The other method of installing devices such as SATA without
> resorting to a
> > floppy disc is to create a custom XP installation CD with the driver
> on it
>
> At this point I'd be happy to know that I'm actually using the correct
> driver for my A7V880 board. It's not clear to me that I am.
>
> Thanks for the post, btw.
>
> Stephen
>
February 18, 2005 8:45:58 PM

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It's SATA. I did check that it was enabled in the bios -- I use the
computer every day so my guess is that it is enabled, unless linux
doesn't actually need bios activation to use SATA.

It looks like Windows installer can find the partition but can't format
it...

Stephen
Anonymous
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February 18, 2005 10:01:30 PM

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Thus spake Stephen Boulet:
> I'm trying to install windows xp home on my first SATA drive. The
> install is failing with an error message saying that the installer
> can't create a partition due to a bad hard drive.
>
> I know that the hard drives are fine, so I think that it's a driver
> issue.
> First of all, the first partition is a primary partition, and I put an
> extended partition on partition 2. I'm still able to create a primary
> partition on partition 3. Can this be an issue, putting a primary
> partition after an extended one?
>
> I'm using SATA but no RAID. I made a driver disk from the
> "Drivers/VIARAID/DriverDisk/MakeDisk.exe" directory of the CD that
> came with the motherboard. There is no corresponding executable to
> make a driver disk for SATA without RAID. Am I using the right driver?

Stephen, more detail than perhaps you need:

It sounds like the right driver, though I recall some m/bs having two RAID
controllers, where one is SATA only/better/easier to configure than the
other. My A7N8X-E uses a single SI SATA controller. I copied the file to a
floppy then pressed the relevant function key when prompted during the
initial stage of installing XP - don't expect the floppy LED to show any
activity at this stage. A few steps further on you select the driver. The SI
SATA doesn't have to be configured as RAID & I presume other providers ones
don't either?

IIRC, Active partitions get assigned drive letters 1st, whatever discs they
maybe on, then the logical partitions get assigned to disc 0, disc 1 etc
then removable media last. Again IIRC, SATA doesn't assign discs as Primary
& secondary 'cos they have a controller chip for each device. I have two
SATA h/ds which are disc 0 & disc 1. My DVD & CDR/W are both attached to the
two PATA channels as Masters. I did have another h/d with an active
partition on the Primary PATA channel as Master at one point & XP got very
confused with drive letters but I didn't bother or need to sort this out as
I was merely copying files to SATA disc 0 then permanently removing it.

My identical SATA drives aren't configured as RAID at this point in time.
Disc 0 has one active partition as C containing XP with a further 5 logical
drives in the extended partition & drive 1 contains an extended partition
containing 6 logical drives, the 1st being dedicated to the page file. My
CD/DVD drives have drive letters starting with Z. I can add further
partitions, drives, USB mass storage devices etc without having to change
any existing drive letters in XP. All I had to do was to assign Z:\ as the
Installation path before installing anything else (using MS's free TweakUI
for XP: My Computer\Special Folders then Installation path in the drop down
list). This stage won't be necessary for most people & probably yourself.

From XP, you can /easily/ change the drive letters of both partitions &
removable media etc except for the boot drive & the partition XP is
installed to. In most cases, drive C will be both. XP can handle more than
one active partition I hear, though I have chosen to only have one as drive
C.

The other method of installing devices such as SATA without resorting to a
floppy disc is to create a custom XP installation CD with the driver on it
(often with the latest SP slip streamed onto it as well). This so-called
"unattended installation" method is used more for system admin people for
configuring identical PCs but is capable of installing all drivers,
applications, network connections, customisations, accounts, passwords etc
along with the OS. The level of user intervention during the install process
can also be customised, eg, entering the Windows key, passwords etc. I
partially used this method with SP2 slip-streamed but without the SATA
driver 'cos I have a floppy drive in my PC. If you want to experiment with
an unattended install at some stage:
http://unattended.msfn.org/
which also contains links to a forum dedicated to doing this.

If you do choose this method, write to a rewriteable disc - it's very easy
to get the syntax wrong like I did on the 1st couple of attempts. The
incentive for me going with this added level of complexity was to customise
the location of the entire Documents & Settings/Program Files folders to
other partitions - it's far more difficult to do this post install. Either
method will work with an upgrade copy of XP but will require a qualifying
previous version of Windows installation media to be read during the
installation process. Any qualifying media can itself be an upgrade version
(Win98/2000). Still awake? ;) 

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February 18, 2005 10:18:53 PM

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Yes I am. I know that traditionally it's always been easier to put
windows on first and then linux (back when windows needed the first
active partition), but I was hoping that I could install windows on the
third active partition.

I wanted to avoid a linux reinstall but I think it's unavoidable. I'm
going to do a big backup and see if windows will install on the first
active partition.

Can XP work fine on a single partition of, say, 25G? I plan on using it
for just games.

Stephen
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 19, 2005 12:07:15 AM

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Are you trying to create a dual boot - Linux and XP ?


<stephen@theboulets.net> wrote in message
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> It's SATA. I did check that it was enabled in the bios -- I use the
> computer every day so my guess is that it is enabled, unless linux
> doesn't actually need bios activation to use SATA.
>
> It looks like Windows installer can find the partition but can't format
> it...
>
> Stephen
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 19, 2005 2:16:02 AM

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XP will be good on 25G.

If you are trying to install XP you should be booting the computer with the
XP cd in the drive. Your bios boot order will need the cdrom as the first
boot device and the sata hard drive as the second boot device.

When the computer boots, be prepared to hit the F6 key when you see the
prompt on the bottom of the screen. You will also need the SATA drivers on a
floppy drive. You have to do this or XP will not see the sata drive. When it
gets to selecting which partition to choose you should see the 25G
partition. Allow XP to format that partition in NTFS.

I'm not sure if XP will provide you with a boot menu that includes your
Linux but I have seen some web pages showing how to edit the boot menu to
include both operating systems.

Post back if you have any questions.
Ron


<stephen@theboulets.net> wrote in message
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> Yes I am. I know that traditionally it's always been easier to put
> windows on first and then linux (back when windows needed the first
> active partition), but I was hoping that I could install windows on the
> third active partition.
>
> I wanted to avoid a linux reinstall but I think it's unavoidable. I'm
> going to do a big backup and see if windows will install on the first
> active partition.
>
> Can XP work fine on a single partition of, say, 25G? I plan on using it
> for just games.
>
> Stephen
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 19, 2005 2:16:03 AM

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RonK wrote:
> XP will be good on 25G.
>
> If you are trying to install XP you should be booting the computer with the
> XP cd in the drive. Your bios boot order will need the cdrom as the first
> boot device and the sata hard drive as the second boot device.
>
> When the computer boots, be prepared to hit the F6 key when you see the
> prompt on the bottom of the screen. You will also need the SATA drivers on a
> floppy drive. You have to do this or XP will not see the sata drive. When it
> gets to selecting which partition to choose you should see the 25G
> partition. Allow XP to format that partition in NTFS.
>
> I'm not sure if XP will provide you with a boot menu that includes your
> Linux but I have seen some web pages showing how to edit the boot menu to
> include both operating systems.
>
> Post back if you have any questions.
> Ron

Thanks. I'm doing all this. I have no trouble picking out the partition
I'd like to put xp on when the partition tool comes up during the
install. It's just that the installer tells me my hard drive is damaged.

Stephen
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 19, 2005 11:22:51 AM

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Thus spake Stephen Boulet:
> RonK wrote:
>> XP will be good on 25G.
>>
>> If you are trying to install XP you should be booting the computer
>> with the XP cd in the drive. Your bios boot order will need the
>> cdrom as the first boot device and the sata hard drive as the second
>> boot device. When the computer boots, be prepared to hit the F6 key when
>> you see
>> the prompt on the bottom of the screen. You will also need the SATA
>> drivers on a floppy drive. You have to do this or XP will not see
>> the sata drive. When it gets to selecting which partition to choose
>> you should see the 25G partition. Allow XP to format that partition
>> in NTFS. I'm not sure if XP will provide you with a boot menu that
>> includes
>> your Linux but I have seen some web pages showing how to edit the
>> boot menu to include both operating systems.
>>
>> Post back if you have any questions.
>> Ron
>
> Thanks. I'm doing all this. I have no trouble picking out the
> partition I'd like to put xp on when the partition tool comes up
> during the install. It's just that the installer tells me my hard
> drive is damaged.
> Stephen

Ah ha, didn't realise Linux was involved. I'll let Ron help you on this one
as I have no experience at all with it but presume that Linux can take care
of loading XP anyhow. Much of what I posted assumed an install of XP by
itself. Good luck getting it sorted!

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February 19, 2005 9:57:39 PM

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Ok, here's what was happening. My driver was correctly loaded. Windows
was thinking the MBR of the first disk was 57 MB in size! I had to
clear the partition table entirely before the install was possible.

Lesson learned: the partition tool shipping with the XP installer isn't
the best in the world.

Stephen
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 20, 2005 3:36:38 PM

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Thus spake stephen@theboulets.net:
> Ok, here's what was happening. My driver was correctly loaded. Windows
> was thinking the MBR of the first disk was 57 MB in size! I had to
> clear the partition table entirely before the install was possible.
>
> Lesson learned: the partition tool shipping with the XP installer
> isn't the best in the world.
>
> Stephen

I've only used format/mbr once. I did read that it didn't like more than 4
partitions but it worked with a total of 2x 6. One method is to use
something like Partition Magic from a boot floppy before installing XP which
is happy with Linux partitions. If SATA is to replace PATA, it really needs
to be far more transparent to set up!

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