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That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
realize this.
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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
> prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
> laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
> then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
> on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
> look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
> realize this.
>
What about R&D?
If we follow your logic all semi-conductor products should be free becuase
the raw material is "sand".
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John Russell wrote:
> What about R&D?
> If we follow your logic all semi-conductor products should be free
> becuase the raw material is "sand".
Exactly. It's like saying that software should be free, 'cos you can get it
online using electrons that are recyclable.
Ben
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"Ben Pope" <ben_popeREMOVE_ME@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> John Russell wrote:
>> What about R&D?
>> If we follow your logic all semi-conductor products should be free
>> becuase the raw material is "sand".
>
> Exactly. It's like saying that software should be free, 'cos you can get
> it online using electrons that are recyclable.
That's right. The manufacturing cost of software is naff all, the price of a
cd! What your paying for is a "share" of the interlectual effort required to
"design" the software.
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VIdeo cards?
The newer video cards are, in fact, a very powerful computer-on-a-board. The
GPU is actually more powerful than most current CPUs. Video cards are one of
the better bargains to be had today. You wanna carp about prices? Start with
memory. No reason in the world that vanilla DDR should cost what it does.
"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
> prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
> laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
> then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
> on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
> look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
> realize this.
>
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"aether" wrote:
> That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
> prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
> laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
> then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
> on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
> look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
> realize this.
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:00:53 -0800, "Jon Danniken"
<jonREMOVETHISdanniken@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Okay, comrade.
>
>Jon
Ya, every home will have a CBJ10 model computer installed at the price
of ten Copeks per year. Oh, and Government agency logging software is
freely installed too.
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aether wrote:
> That sums up the entire industry. The prices aren't coming down. The
> prices have remained the same for the past six months. They pay cheap
> laborers in Asia a few cents an hour to manufacture this hardware, and
> then turn around and make a 1000% profit. I'd love to see this turned
> on them. (e.g. mass produced hardware flood the market via Asia) One
> look at the prices they're charging for video cards is all you need to
> realize this.
Fab plants start at $1 billion.
$50 Graphics cards are faster than supercomputers of 20 years ago.
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It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.
The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
in overpricing. (e.g. theft)
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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If that's not a form
> of larceny, what is?
If you don't want to pay that amount of money, there are plenty of cheaper
products. If you want to live on the bleeding edge, and have the absolute
fastest, you will have to pay top dollar for it. That's market forces.
> For a video card that will be obsolete in less than three, perhaps
> two, years.
The video card market is only turning over at the rate it is because there
are plenty of gamers and benchmark wankers out there prepared to pay for the
latest and greatest. If you don't want to pay, nobody's forcing you.
> The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market.
No, it's primarily because of customers.
> They must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This
> results in overpricing.
....but if they price the products out of the market, nobody buys the
merchandise, no profits, and no stock value.
> (e.g. theft)
Rofl, get a life. It's hardly theft if the buyer willingly hands over the
money. It's a transaction is what it is, and if there are people willing to
pay that sort of money for a graphics card, there's no reason why companies
shouldn't satisfy that demand.
--
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Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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> It's hardly theft if the buyer willingly hands over the
> money. It's a transaction is what it is, and if there are people willing
> to pay that sort of money for a graphics card, there's no reason why
> companies shouldn't satisfy that demand.
Exactly. That's why Abercrombie and Fitch (clothing) is doing so well here
in the States. The teenage girls and their parents are slaves to that market
and pay the higher prices, while those who can think shop elsewhere and save
a bundle.
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aether wrote:
> A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000.
You can get an nVidia 6800 Ultra for about $500. Where do you come up with
$1000? Are you talking about a professionaly level GL card? That has
nothing to do with home based PC's.
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aether wrote:
> It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
> will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
> components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
> increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
> that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
> obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.
>
> The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
> must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
> in overpricing. (e.g. theft)
>
Then why don't you start a company selling 'cheap' computers and, since
everyone will beat a path to your door, get rich?
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>>>No, it's primarily because of customers.<<<
There's collusion within the industry, on all fronts. There's a market
for the product, and the collusion is to take in as much profit as
possible in order to increase earnings and please the shareholders.
>>>Rofl, get a life. It's hardly theft if the buyer willingly hands
over the
money. It's a transaction is what it is, and if there are people
willing to
pay that sort of money for a graphics card, there's no reason why
companies
shouldn't satisfy that demand.
The UK's leading technology reseller www.dabs.com <<<
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"aether" wrote
> >>>No, it's primarily because of customers.<<<
>
> There's collusion within the industry, on all fronts. There's a market
> for the product, and the collusion is to take in as much profit as
> possible in order to increase earnings and please the shareholders.
You mean the computer industry isn't run by the Salvation Army as a charity?
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Screw you, commie. You don't like the price then don't buy it.
DaveL
"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
> will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
> components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
> increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
> that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
> obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.
>
> The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
> must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
> in overpricing. (e.g. theft)
>
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is some big bad meany forcing you to buy or is it just your tiny little ego
driving you(pun) to have the fastest mostest on the block?
BTW the board wasobsolescent last week.
"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
> will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
> components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
> increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
> that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
> obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.
>
> The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
> must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
> in overpricing. (e.g. theft)
>
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yes you're right how did you figure it out? It is a conspiracy. Every
store, every mail order knows about you and when you wan to buy they
quickly triple the price. The rest of us are getting the best on the market
for $50 AND free shipping!
"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>>No, it's primarily because of customers.<<<
>
> There's collusion within the industry, on all fronts. There's a market
> for the product, and the collusion is to take in as much profit as
> possible in order to increase earnings and please the shareholders.
>
>
> >>>Rofl, get a life. It's hardly theft if the buyer willingly hands
> over the
> money. It's a transaction is what it is, and if there are people
> willing to
> pay that sort of money for a graphics card, there's no reason why
> companies
> shouldn't satisfy that demand.
>
> The UK's leading technology reseller www.dabs.com <<<
>
> It's apparent where your vested interests lie.
>
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you mean like Dell?
"David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
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> aether wrote:
>
> > It's bound to happen, anyway. Massive importation via Asia countries
> > will bring down the prices, eventually. PC prices, the price of
> > components, memory, etc.. are not falling. They are at a standstill, or
> > increasing. A top-flight video card will cost you nearly $1,000. If
> > that's not a form of larceny, what is? For a video card that will be
> > obsolete in less than three, perhaps two, years.
> >
> > The reason for this, mostly, is shareholders and the stock market. They
> > must increase their profit every quarter to please them. This results
> > in overpricing. (e.g. theft)
> >
>
> Then why don't you start a company selling 'cheap' computers and, since
> everyone will beat a path to your door, get rich?
>
