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Intel To Build 22nm Trigate Processors for Netronome

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April 4, 2012 8:07:40 PM

Looks like it's getting closer to buy some Intel stock.
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April 4, 2012 8:25:35 PM

PreyLooks like it's getting closer to buy some Intel stock.

Seeing as they've been posting record profits and growth for several years in a row now (I think close to a decade), I think you've long since missed the window.
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April 4, 2012 8:33:47 PM

how is nVidia Intel's rival? i thought a GPU was separate from the CPU except for the integrated GPU which is basically just for everyday use proposes and not made for extreme gaming like nVidia's cards are.
Also in that picture what version of QDR? and will it be able to go above 1333MHz for DDR3?
now @ Prey Intel will most likely not go up anytime soon until this comes out and bees a hit in the market for whatever reason. still with QDR what market are they aiming for?
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April 4, 2012 8:37:34 PM

Nvidia is Intel's rival in the smartphone/tablet SoC market. Tegra competes directly against Atom.
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April 4, 2012 8:39:05 PM

yumrihow is nVidia Intel's rival? i thought a GPU was separate from the CPU except for the integrated GPU which is basically just for everyday use proposes and not made for extreme gaming like nVidia's cards are.Also in that picture what version of QDR? and will it be able to go above 1333MHz for DDR3?now @ Prey Intel will most likely not go up anytime soon until this comes out and bees a hit in the market for whatever reason. still with QDR what market are they aiming for?


Nvidia is not competing with Intel in the aftermarket gpu area. btu intel is smart, they know cloud computing and tablets/phones used as a one portal devices through things like the asus transformer series are going to keep coming, intel has thier mobile area where they are competing with Tegra 3, even if they only made Nvidia GPU and not thier Tegra chips the added benefit of the node shrink for Nvidia would likely result in more R&D money for Tegra which harms Intel. it is a smart call
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April 4, 2012 8:46:46 PM

willardSeeing as they've been posting record profits and growth for several years in a row now (I think close to a decade), I think you've long since missed the window.


What's even more interesting is that investors outlook on intel stock is that it's high right now. They think that competition with Arm and the emerging markets such as tablet/mobile processors are not a strong place for Intel.

I think the investors are wrong, it blows my mind how Apple shares can be so high while Intel and MS shares are priced equivalent to sliced bread. Whatever!
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April 4, 2012 8:49:43 PM

Intel has hundreds streams of income and that's why I have lost my faith in amd. They didn't diversify their business and now they are screwed unless they find some strategic investor..
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April 4, 2012 8:51:00 PM

willardSeeing as they've been posting record profits and growth for several years in a row now (I think close to a decade), I think you've long since missed the window.


Well, the only option left is to wait around for Intel to repeat the Netburst fiasco and short-sell their stocks.
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April 4, 2012 8:53:02 PM

Apple competes with Samsung but Samsung has Apple manufacturing deals maybe Intel should take note.
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April 4, 2012 8:53:54 PM

Nvidia runs circles around Intel when it comes to GPU knowledge, Intel would be smart to actually Nvidia's GPU's for them. Keep friends close but your enemies even closer.
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April 4, 2012 9:08:25 PM

Their stock is only $27...
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April 4, 2012 10:00:34 PM

acadia11Nvidia runs circles around Intel when it comes to GPU knowledge, Intel would be smart to actually Nvidia's GPU's for them. Keep friends close but your enemies even closer.

intel has billions, they could make GPUs (or cookies or anything they want) easily
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April 4, 2012 10:08:55 PM

madooo12intel has billions, they could make GPUs (or cookies or anything they want) easily

This.
The only reason Intel isn't a giant in the GPU market is because it's a niche market and doesn't interest them.
Face it, the average user doesn't need an HD7970, when an Intel HD integrated solution does the job just fine.
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April 4, 2012 10:22:26 PM

obsama1Their stock is only $27...


They are paying out a pretty nice dividend every quarter. 21 cents a quarter right now.
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April 4, 2012 10:24:04 PM

I wonder if one day Intel will make AMD processors instead of GF. It makes sense as Intel would get a cut of of the AMD sales and AMD would get more advanced production facilities also Intel would not have problems with the monopolies commission if AMD were to stop competing with Intel
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April 4, 2012 10:29:17 PM

Hal: "I can't do that dave...."
Dave: "OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS HAL!!!!!"
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April 4, 2012 10:32:30 PM

Intel could smash the GPU market like a raging bull in a china dish store....
But they don't.
Which is kind of weird actually.
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April 4, 2012 11:57:04 PM

Intel clearly has a huge manufacturing capacity to meet all its own requirements and still have spare capacity to accept outside jobs. And it shows Intel confidence in mastering the 22nm process technology. AMD is in deep shit.
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April 5, 2012 1:37:08 AM

Maybe if NVIDIA stopped acting like petulent children, real companies might talk to them. They aren't a professional company at all, and their CEO is not at all professional. A CEO of a big company should be professional, and never say some of the stuff he does. He acts like he's someone off the street that can say whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and then whines because Intel won't make processors for him.

Part of being CEO is to know when you can say what you want, and when you can't, and just take the high road rather than embarrass your company. If I were running Intel, I would never deal with this ass-clown. Maybe when he acts like an adult, and a CEO, Intel might talk to him.

I'd be much less surprised if Intel did fab work for AMD instead. At least they have a grown-up running the company.
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April 5, 2012 1:45:33 AM

Netro-who?
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April 5, 2012 1:53:54 AM

A Bad DayWell, the only option left is to wait around for Intel to repeat the Netburst fiasco and short-sell their stocks.


I don't think that Intel will do that again.

pjmelectI wonder if one day Intel will make AMD processors instead of GF. It makes sense as Intel would get a cut of of the AMD sales and AMD would get more advanced production facilities also Intel would not have problems with the monopolies commission if AMD were to stop competing with Intel


If Intel made some of AMD's processors, then Intel would lose some market share to AMD, unless they did a poor job of it or AMD manages to make a worse CPU than the current FX CPUs (I doubt that AMD would do this). AMD's market share would need to be kept minimal by Intel in order for this to work out because Intel wants a competitor, but not serious competition, unless Intel somehow makes more money by making AMD processors than they would be making their own processors.

Otherwise, Intel would be losing money because if a customer would pay say $130 for an Intel i3, Intel gets all of the profits, but if a customer pays for a $130 AMD COU, Intel would at best only get a fairly small cut of it. So, maybe Intel would make high core count CPUs, but it doesn't look like it would work out with Intel making low end AMD CPUs unless Intel keeps their market share low enough to not challenge their profits much, but high enough to keep anti-trust lawsuits from killing Intel.
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April 5, 2012 1:59:13 AM

Intel must be getting some unbelievably good results from their 22 nm trigate process.
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April 5, 2012 2:03:39 AM

memadmax said:
Intel could smash the GPU market like a raging bull in a china dish store....
But they don't.
Which is kind of weird actually.


vittau said:
This.
The only reason Intel isn't a giant in the GPU market is because it's a niche market and doesn't interest them.
Face it, the average user doesn't need an HD7970, when an Intel HD integrated solution does the job just fine.


I think that vittau's post explains why it isn't weird for Intel to not venture into the graphics market. Also, Intel had a product that was supposed to compete in the graphics market, Larrabee, but Intel turned it into a compute only chip and called it Knights Corner or something like that.
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April 5, 2012 3:41:57 AM

acadia11Apple competes with Samsung but Samsung has Apple manufacturing deals maybe Intel should take note.

Apple and Samsung both make phones, but they are entirely different phones with different features.
NVidia and Intel are making the same chips and are competing for more marketshare in these phones made by samsung and apple.

In fact, apple basically makes no hardware themselves from what I can think of. They are a design and OS, and thats it. Completely different than the intel and nvidia situation.
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April 5, 2012 5:51:41 AM

TA152HMaybe if NVIDIA stopped acting like petulent children, real companies might talk to them. They aren't a professional company at all, and their CEO is not at all professional. A CEO of a big company should be professional, and never say some of the stuff he does. He acts like he's someone off the street that can say whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and then whines because Intel won't make processors for him. Part of being CEO is to know when you can say what you want, and when you can't, and just take the high road rather than embarrass your company. If I were running Intel, I would never deal with this ass-clown. Maybe when he acts like an adult, and a CEO, Intel might talk to him. I'd be much less surprised if Intel did fab work for AMD instead. At least they have a grown-up running the company.


U'r right, dude! He should learn a serious talk, just like other serious and professional companies - Enron, Lemon Brothers, etc.
At least he is a sincere guy unlike those "professional" suits with business degrees who care only about profits. We've seen them running so many companies into the ground, cheating customers and shareholders, etc. Yeah, real "professionals"!
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April 5, 2012 7:50:26 AM

vittauThis.The only reason Intel isn't a giant in the GPU market is because it's a niche market and doesn't interest them.Face it, the average user doesn't need an HD7970, when an Intel HD integrated solution does the job just fine.


Then why did they try to make Larrabee ? (and failed).
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April 5, 2012 8:02:24 AM

Let's just wait for Haswell next year. Early benchmarks are showing HD4000 will kill the $60 GPU market. Haskell could take that to above $100 and so on.
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April 5, 2012 9:30:57 AM

Seems to be a lot of confusion about the whole AMD vs Intel debate again. Just remember AMD's IPO. x64 anyone?
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April 5, 2012 3:03:37 PM

They didn't fail at Larrabee. It just wasn't worth the investment. They will now put the work done in Larrabbee into add on cards for servers that can do streaming and act as multicore VM systems. They will be very powerful add ins, but not solely graphics engines. The market for add on video is just too tight and integration is the future.
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April 5, 2012 4:04:15 PM

doive1231 said:
Let's just wait for Haswell next year. Early benchmarks are showing HD4000 will kill the $60 GPU market. Haskell could take that to above $100 and so on.


Actually, benchmarks show that HD 4000 could displace the most low end cards that are more like $1-40 such as the 6450. Even the Radeon 5550 is still much faster than the HD 4000 on the i7s. HD 4000 is still not a gaming IGP. This isn't good for AMD because most of their money is made through selling low end cards, but so long as they have cards at least as fast as the 6570 and faster brought down in price, the very low end graphics market may still depend on AMD. The problem for AMD comes in at that the HD 4000 is fast enough for anything but gaming, compute, and the like, basically anything that you wouldn't want a mid or high end card for.

HD 3000 is already enough for 1080p TV and the HD 4000 is more than enough for 3D 1080p for anyone who cares. Basically, it will be fast enough for anything and everything that the general masses will do on a computer. It probably won't do GPU acceleration all to well (although no worse than a 6450 does) like Llano's IGP, but it will be adequate.
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April 5, 2012 4:18:24 PM

hardcore_gamer said:
Then why did they try to make Larrabee ? (and failed).


It was doing exceptionally well, but Intel realized that the high end consumer graphics market is not very high profit because too few people buy from it. The high end professional and/or enterprise market, however, is full of profits, so they switched over.
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April 5, 2012 4:54:16 PM

i'll say it cuz no one else has.... Intel i740... it's not that they wouldn't want to or care about the market... it's just that they're never successful at it. intel does not dominate every market they're into. and often jump in and out of markets they could do very well in. Those that say there's not enough money in discrete graphics over looks the money AMD and nVidia make in it. If you have a product that produces and you can dictate pricing because of production efficiency, like intel can, then how can anyone say they couldn't take over the graphics market? because the fact is they do not have a product capable of doing that.
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April 6, 2012 1:51:01 PM

Hanin33 said:
i'll say it cuz no one else has.... Intel i740... it's not that they wouldn't want to or care about the market... it's just that they're never successful at it. intel does not dominate every market they're into. and often jump in and out of markets they could do very well in. Those that say there's not enough money in discrete graphics over looks the money AMD and nVidia make in it. If you have a product that produces and you can dictate pricing because of production efficiency, like intel can, then how can anyone say they couldn't take over the graphics market? because the fact is they do not have a product capable of doing that.


Nvidia is a tenth (or is it eleventh now? I'll have to check sometime) the size of Intel despite being a prat of many markets including but not limited to smart phone processors, desktop graphics and through it video games, and much more. AMD is only a little over half the size of Nvidia despite being a major player in both the x86 CPU and the desktop graphics markets.

The desktop graphics market does not have the huge profit margins of the enterprise/professional graphics market. This market makes so much more money. That is why Intel switched over from making a desktop graphics solution (Larrabee) to a workstation/server/super computer solution.

Yes, Intel darts in and out of some markets. For example, we see that Intel's original Atoms for the netbook were decent processors when they cam out, but Intel later on neglected the market and didn't make Atoms based on a new architecture/die shrink or make a complete replacement for them in netbooks.
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