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Just ordered a ASUS P4P800VM and a Celeron 2.8 CPU. Going to build myself.

Can this set up be overclocked?

Any issues with this board?

Thanks
Greg
 

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In article <42213125.5040906@takethisout.starpower.andthis.com>, greg
<greggail@takethisout.starpower.andthis.com> wrote:

> Just ordered a ASUS P4P800VM and a Celeron 2.8 CPU. Going to build myself.
>
> Can this set up be overclocked?
>
> Any issues with this board?
>
> Thanks
> Greg

Always download the manual for the board you plan on buying.
The P4P800-VM has no adjustment for the FSB of the CPU, so
it is not an overclockers board. Generally, the full sized
ATX boards have adjustable CPU clocks. (If you can find a
version of "setfsb" or "clockgen" that can program the clock,
then you can overclock it, but those kinds of programs must
be custom designed for each motherboard.)

http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/download.aspx
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-vm/e1338_p4p800-vm.pdf

P4P800 boards with the 865PE on it, have an issue with
video artifacts, when running with CPU clocks greater
than 200MHz (FSB800). You can see the data here. I haven't
checked this thread for a while, and perhaps someone has found
a good brand of RAM to help with the problem.

http://abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62275&highlight=artifact+p4p800

You can search the model names of the boards here, and
see if there are any other issues.

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/search.php

I bought a P4C800-E Deluxe with an 875 on it. I didn't buy it for
all the built-in peripherals - I wanted a board that wouldn't
have issues, and I've been happy with it so far.

In terms of how overclockable the processor will be, check this
web page, as it is a database of overclocking results. It can
be difficult sometimes, to figure out which processor is which -
if you get the SSPEC entries from the page for a processor,
you can run the SSPEC number thru processorfinder.intel.com
and get more details on the processor model in question.
I don't see CeleronD listed here, so maybe this will be a
waste of your time:

http://www.cpudatabase.com/index.cfm?Action=search

Asus microATX boards are intended for system builds who
are making 100 identical computers for a small business or
office. The boards are not really intended for enthusiasts.
It is a shame, as some people want to build HTPC systems with
some of these boards, and it wouldn't really kill Asus to
add a bit more stuff to the BIOS (as they write full featured
BIOS for their other boards anyway, and it is largely the
same code for all members of the 865/875 family).

HTH,
Paul
 

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Thanks for the info, very helpful.

Greg

Paul wrote:
> In article <42213125.5040906@takethisout.starpower.andthis.com>, greg
> <greggail@takethisout.starpower.andthis.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Just ordered a ASUS P4P800VM and a Celeron 2.8 CPU. Going to build myself.
>>
>>Can this set up be overclocked?
>>
>>Any issues with this board?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Greg
>
>
> Always download the manual for the board you plan on buying.
> The P4P800-VM has no adjustment for the FSB of the CPU, so
> it is not an overclockers board. Generally, the full sized
> ATX boards have adjustable CPU clocks. (If you can find a
> version of "setfsb" or "clockgen" that can program the clock,
> then you can overclock it, but those kinds of programs must
> be custom designed for each motherboard.)
>
> http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/download.aspx
> ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-vm/e1338_p4p800-vm.pdf
>
> P4P800 boards with the 865PE on it, have an issue with
> video artifacts, when running with CPU clocks greater
> than 200MHz (FSB800). You can see the data here. I haven't
> checked this thread for a while, and perhaps someone has found
> a good brand of RAM to help with the problem.
>
> http://abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62275&highlight=artifact+p4p800
>
> You can search the model names of the boards here, and
> see if there are any other issues.
>
> http://www.abxzone.com/forums/search.php
>
> I bought a P4C800-E Deluxe with an 875 on it. I didn't buy it for
> all the built-in peripherals - I wanted a board that wouldn't
> have issues, and I've been happy with it so far.
>
> In terms of how overclockable the processor will be, check this
> web page, as it is a database of overclocking results. It can
> be difficult sometimes, to figure out which processor is which -
> if you get the SSPEC entries from the page for a processor,
> you can run the SSPEC number thru processorfinder.intel.com
> and get more details on the processor model in question.
> I don't see CeleronD listed here, so maybe this will be a
> waste of your time:
>
> http://www.cpudatabase.com/index.cfm?Action=search
>
> Asus microATX boards are intended for system builds who
> are making 100 identical computers for a small business or
> office. The boards are not really intended for enthusiasts.
> It is a shame, as some people want to build HTPC systems with
> some of these boards, and it wouldn't really kill Asus to
> add a bit more stuff to the BIOS (as they write full featured
> BIOS for their other boards anyway, and it is largely the
> same code for all members of the 865/875 family).
>
> HTH,
> Paul
 

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Hi Paul,
Thanks for the great links. I've checked through some of them and I've
changed my order to a P4P800E-delux. Not sure if this is a newer model
(P4C800 looked like an older version from one of the posts) but it was
in my price range and I checked the link you sent and seems like a good
board for OCing. I also purchase a xfx GForce 5500fx video card. Total
package was a bit more expensive will be worth it. I also bought 512
meg of Ultra PC3200 memory.

Great info and again thanks,
Greg

Paul wrote:
> In article <42213125.5040906@takethisout.starpower.andthis.com>, greg
> <greggail@takethisout.starpower.andthis.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Just ordered a ASUS P4P800VM and a Celeron 2.8 CPU. Going to build myself.
>>
>>Can this set up be overclocked?
>>
>>Any issues with this board?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Greg
>
>
> Always download the manual for the board you plan on buying.
> The P4P800-VM has no adjustment for the FSB of the CPU, so
> it is not an overclockers board. Generally, the full sized
> ATX boards have adjustable CPU clocks. (If you can find a
> version of "setfsb" or "clockgen" that can program the clock,
> then you can overclock it, but those kinds of programs must
> be custom designed for each motherboard.)
>
> http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/download.aspx
> ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-vm/e1338_p4p800-vm.pdf
>
> P4P800 boards with the 865PE on it, have an issue with
> video artifacts, when running with CPU clocks greater
> than 200MHz (FSB800). You can see the data here. I haven't
> checked this thread for a while, and perhaps someone has found
> a good brand of RAM to help with the problem.
>
> http://abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62275&highlight=artifact+p4p800
>
> You can search the model names of the boards here, and
> see if there are any other issues.
>
> http://www.abxzone.com/forums/search.php
>
> I bought a P4C800-E Deluxe with an 875 on it. I didn't buy it for
> all the built-in peripherals - I wanted a board that wouldn't
> have issues, and I've been happy with it so far.
>
> In terms of how overclockable the processor will be, check this
> web page, as it is a database of overclocking results. It can
> be difficult sometimes, to figure out which processor is which -
> if you get the SSPEC entries from the page for a processor,
> you can run the SSPEC number thru processorfinder.intel.com
> and get more details on the processor model in question.
> I don't see CeleronD listed here, so maybe this will be a
> waste of your time:
>
> http://www.cpudatabase.com/index.cfm?Action=search
>
> Asus microATX boards are intended for system builds who
> are making 100 identical computers for a small business or
> office. The boards are not really intended for enthusiasts.
> It is a shame, as some people want to build HTPC systems with
> some of these boards, and it wouldn't really kill Asus to
> add a bit more stuff to the BIOS (as they write full featured
> BIOS for their other boards anyway, and it is largely the
> same code for all members of the 865/875 family).
>
> HTH,
> Paul