sp2 failing with SATA Drives

[Cody]

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Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
works just fine.

 

[Guest]

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It may have to do with your motherboard/chipset. What motherboard make
and model do you have? I will have it looked into. My last question
is, were you using Intel Application Accelerator?

----
Nathan McNulty


Cody wrote:
> Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
> Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
> Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
> that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
> no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
> support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
> if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
> works just fine.

 

[Cody]

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Shuttle XPC sb62g2
current bios
Intel chips set
Intel inf's
No Intel application accelerator just the inf's

Cody


>-----Original Message-----
>It may have to do with your motherboard/chipset. What
motherboard make
>and model do you have? I will have it looked into. My
last question
>is, were you using Intel Application Accelerator?
>
>----
>Nathan McNulty
>
>
>Cody wrote:
>> Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after
reboot.
>> Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe
mode.
>> Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
>> that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No
repair
>> no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide
legacy
>> support does not work like it has for others. The same
pc
>> if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
>> works just fine.
>.
>

 

[Guest]

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I haven't tried the SP2 upgrade yet, but I also have a SATA RAID 0 machine.
While you're looking, are there any issues with:

Arima Rioworks HDAMB MoBo (Dual Socket 940 Opteron)
Accelertech ATO2082-A version
AMD 8111/8151 chipset
Promise PDC 20378 SATA chipset
Phoenix BIOS

No Intel App Accel (no Intel).

"Nathan McNulty" <nospam@msn.com> wrote...
> It may have to do with your motherboard/chipset. What motherboard make
> and model do you have? I will have it looked into. My last question
> is, were you using Intel Application Accelerator?

> Cody wrote:
>> Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
>> Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
>> Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
>> that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
>> no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
>> support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
>> if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
>> works just fine.

 

[Len]

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Can't speak for RAID configurations but on a single SATA drive I had no
problem with installing SP2 on a working system. It caused no problems
related to the drive but has some problems with Explorer stability which I
haven't worked out yet.

Also strangely enough for the first time in a while an old Dr. Watson issue
has surfaced... how history repeats itself!

FWIW, Len

"Cody" <accounts@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:434901c47fe6$cbdfbd60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
> Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
> Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
> that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
> no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
> support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
> if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
> works just fine.

 

[Guest]

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I'm running a single SATA drive in a Shuttle SB61G2 system. I have run into
the agp440.sys error that others are complaining about. I have completed a
clean install with a PATA drive then update to SP2 with no problems.

As soon as I reboot after a clean install then update to SP2 using the SATA
drive it hangs at agp440.sys. I have searched constantly for the last week
and haven't found a solution that works. I've tried the "disable agp440"
solution offered by the Knowledge Base but that was effective.

Anyone have a viable solution?

Thanks

"Len" wrote:

> Can't speak for RAID configurations but on a single SATA drive I had no
> problem with installing SP2 on a working system. It caused no problems
> related to the drive but has some problems with Explorer stability which I
> haven't worked out yet.
>
> Also strangely enough for the first time in a while an old Dr. Watson issue
> has surfaced... how history repeats itself!
>
> FWIW, Len
>
> "Cody" <accounts@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:434901c47fe6$cbdfbd60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
> > Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
> > Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
> > that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
> > no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
> > support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
> > if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
> > works just fine.
>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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If the upgrade fails at the logo screen and booting into SafeMode shows the
AGP440.sys file, then the KB article is not relevant.

Do you have an i865 or i875 Intel chipset motherboard with a Prescott CPU?
If so, please let me know exact details - (email address is at my website
below my sig.)

Temporarily disable L1/L2 cacheing inthe BIOS, boot up and uninstall SP2 or
use System Restore to go back to before you installed SP2.

You're not the only one waiting for someone to work this out, but we can
live without SP2 while the problem exists. Yes, me too!
--
Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
www.coribright.com


"ExRoadie" <ExRoadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:820E688A-32F0-48AD-89D6-2ACD0F141B03@microsoft.com...
> I'm running a single SATA drive in a Shuttle SB61G2 system. I have run
> into
> the agp440.sys error that others are complaining about. I have completed a
> clean install with a PATA drive then update to SP2 with no problems.
>
> As soon as I reboot after a clean install then update to SP2 using the
> SATA
> drive it hangs at agp440.sys. I have searched constantly for the last week
> and haven't found a solution that works. I've tried the "disable agp440"
> solution offered by the Knowledge Base but that was effective.
>
> Anyone have a viable solution?
>
> Thanks
>
> "Len" wrote:
>
>> Can't speak for RAID configurations but on a single SATA drive I had no
>> problem with installing SP2 on a working system. It caused no problems
>> related to the drive but has some problems with Explorer stability which
>> I
>> haven't worked out yet.
>>
>> Also strangely enough for the first time in a while an old Dr. Watson
>> issue
>> has surfaced... how history repeats itself!
>>
>> FWIW, Len
>>
>> "Cody" <accounts@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:434901c47fe6$cbdfbd60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> > Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
>> > Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
>> > Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
>> > that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
>> > no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
>> > support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
>> > if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
>> > works just fine.
>>
>>
>>

 

[Len]

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Just one to add to the statistics... I have an i865 chipset on my system and
have not had the referenced problem with SP2. The MB is an ASUS P4P800 Dlx
with 2.4c Ghz CPU and one gig of DDR RAM.

For whatever it is worth...
Len

"Cari (MS MVP)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote in message
news:OUd8tEzhEHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> If the upgrade fails at the logo screen and booting into SafeMode shows
> the AGP440.sys file, then the KB article is not relevant.
>
> Do you have an i865 or i875 Intel chipset motherboard with a Prescott CPU?
> If so, please let me know exact details - (email address is at my website
> below my sig.)
>
> Temporarily disable L1/L2 cacheing inthe BIOS, boot up and uninstall SP2
> or use System Restore to go back to before you installed SP2.
>
> You're not the only one waiting for someone to work this out, but we can
> live without SP2 while the problem exists. Yes, me too!
> --
> Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
> www.coribright.com
>
>
> "ExRoadie" <ExRoadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:820E688A-32F0-48AD-89D6-2ACD0F141B03@microsoft.com...
>> I'm running a single SATA drive in a Shuttle SB61G2 system. I have run
>> into
>> the agp440.sys error that others are complaining about. I have completed
>> a
>> clean install with a PATA drive then update to SP2 with no problems.
>>
>> As soon as I reboot after a clean install then update to SP2 using the
>> SATA
>> drive it hangs at agp440.sys. I have searched constantly for the last
>> week
>> and haven't found a solution that works. I've tried the "disable agp440"
>> solution offered by the Knowledge Base but that was effective.
>>
>> Anyone have a viable solution?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> "Len" wrote:
>>
>>> Can't speak for RAID configurations but on a single SATA drive I had no
>>> problem with installing SP2 on a working system. It caused no problems
>>> related to the drive but has some problems with Explorer stability which
>>> I
>>> haven't worked out yet.
>>>
>>> Also strangely enough for the first time in a while an old Dr. Watson
>>> issue
>>> has surfaced... how history repeats itself!
>>>
>>> FWIW, Len
>>>
>>> "Cody" <accounts@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:434901c47fe6$cbdfbd60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>> > Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
>>> > Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
>>> > Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
>>> > that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
>>> > no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
>>> > support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
>>> > if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
>>> > works just fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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You do NOT have a Prescott CPU so you are safe!The problem appears to be
with the L1/L2 cache of the Prescott PC on i863/i875 motherboards only.
--
Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
www.coribright.com

"Len" <len207@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uio6%23b4hEHA.356@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Just one to add to the statistics... I have an i865 chipset on my system
> and have not had the referenced problem with SP2. The MB is an ASUS
> P4P800 Dlx with 2.4c Ghz CPU and one gig of DDR RAM.
>
> For whatever it is worth...
> Len
>
> "Cari (MS MVP)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote in message
> news:OUd8tEzhEHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> If the upgrade fails at the logo screen and booting into SafeMode shows
>> the AGP440.sys file, then the KB article is not relevant.
>>
>> Do you have an i865 or i875 Intel chipset motherboard with a Prescott
>> CPU? If so, please let me know exact details - (email address is at my
>> website below my sig.)
>>
>> Temporarily disable L1/L2 cacheing inthe BIOS, boot up and uninstall SP2
>> or use System Restore to go back to before you installed SP2.
>>
>> You're not the only one waiting for someone to work this out, but we can
>> live without SP2 while the problem exists. Yes, me too!
>> --
>> Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
>> www.coribright.com
>>
>>
>> "ExRoadie" <ExRoadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:820E688A-32F0-48AD-89D6-2ACD0F141B03@microsoft.com...
>>> I'm running a single SATA drive in a Shuttle SB61G2 system. I have run
>>> into
>>> the agp440.sys error that others are complaining about. I have completed
>>> a
>>> clean install with a PATA drive then update to SP2 with no problems.
>>>
>>> As soon as I reboot after a clean install then update to SP2 using the
>>> SATA
>>> drive it hangs at agp440.sys. I have searched constantly for the last
>>> week
>>> and haven't found a solution that works. I've tried the "disable agp440"
>>> solution offered by the Knowledge Base but that was effective.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a viable solution?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> "Len" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can't speak for RAID configurations but on a single SATA drive I had no
>>>> problem with installing SP2 on a working system. It caused no problems
>>>> related to the drive but has some problems with Explorer stability
>>>> which I
>>>> haven't worked out yet.
>>>>
>>>> Also strangely enough for the first time in a while an old Dr. Watson
>>>> issue
>>>> has surfaced... how history repeats itself!
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, Len
>>>>
>>>> "Cody" <accounts@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:434901c47fe6$cbdfbd60$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> > Have only SATA drives in my box. sp2 fails after reboot.
>>>> > Can not uninstall from the console nor boot to safe mode.
>>>> > Safemode stops at the agp440 driver but I know its not
>>>> > that. Only way to recover was a FRESH reinstall. No repair
>>>> > no roll back nothing works. Putting the SATA in ide legacy
>>>> > support does not work like it has for others. The same pc
>>>> > if I install to a normal ide none sata and xp and sp2
>>>> > works just fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:58:50 -0400, "Len" <len207@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Just one to add to the statistics... I have an i865 chipset on my system and
>have not had the referenced problem with SP2. The MB is an ASUS P4P800 Dlx
>with 2.4c Ghz CPU and one gig of DDR RAM.

>For whatever it is worth...

A lot, perhaps! Is your processor Prescott or pre-Prescott?

>"Cari (MS MVP)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote in message

>> If the upgrade fails at the logo screen and booting into SafeMode shows
>> the AGP440.sys file, then the KB article is not relevant.

>> Temporarily disable L1/L2 cacheing inthe BIOS, boot up and uninstall SP2
>> or use System Restore to go back to before you installed SP2.

I can verify the former approach works, as long as you give it the
hours it needs and don't assume it's locked up.

Cari (sorry I credited you as Cori in some posts; I think I was
confused by a web site font); some Qs:
- was your system Prescott? (mine was Prescott Celeron 2.66)
- what brand mobo? (mine was JetWay 875P)
- BIOS update?
- S-ATA? (mine was not S-ATA)
- did this issue arise in beta testing, or RTM only?
- have you "bugged" MS about the issue?
- what was MS's response?
- is the scope of the problem known?
- will this be resolved somehow before WU starts to push?

>> "ExRoadie" <ExRoadie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> I'm running a single SATA drive in a Shuttle SB61G2 system. I have run
>>> into the agp440.sys error that others are complaining about. I completed
>>> a clean install with a PATA drive then update to SP2 with no problems.

That's interesting. What S-ATA were you using - the built-in Intel,
or a 3rd-party add-on such as my JetWay's Promise? (In my case,
nothing's attached to S-ATA). What mode was the S-ATA, i.e. enhanced,
legacy or one of RAID 0 or RAID 1?

>>> I've tried the "disable agp440" solution offered by the Knowledge
>>> Base but that was effective.

Haven't seen that, but I did try renaming away AGP440.SYS - all that
happens is the boot locks after the previous driver load (MUP.SYS)

>>> Anyone have a viable solution?

Cari's "disable L1 and L2 cache, then uninstall SP2" worked for me




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[Guest]

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 07:24:09 -0700, "Cari \(MS MVP\)"

>You do NOT have a Prescott CPU so you are safe!The problem appears to be
>with the L1/L2 cache of the Prescott PC on i863/i875 motherboards only.

Are you sure he's in that situation?

There are at least 5 Socket 478 2.4GHz CPUs...

1) 128k L2, 400MHz base
2) 256k L2, 533MHz base
3) 512k L2, 533MHz base
4) 512k L2, 800MHz base, HT
5) 1024k L2, 533MHz base, HT

....of which (1) and (2) are Celeron, (3-5) are Pentium 4, and (2) and
(5) are Prescott. The Prescott P4-2.4 is anomalous in that it has the
slower 533MHz base speed, compared to the older version.

That's why I asked him if he was Prescott. Are you Prescott?

Another factor that came up was S-ATA. My motherboard has the usual
875P S-ATA, but also an added Promise S-ATA that does RAID0/1. In my
case, the system HD wasn't S-ATA.



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[Len]

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Cari is correct - I do not have a Prescott CPU. Mine is a 2.4c (Northwood)
model with just 512 L2 cache.

Len

"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
newsd2fi0h025n4dokr434fv85j14i9omeeih@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 07:24:09 -0700, "Cari \(MS MVP\)"
>
>>You do NOT have a Prescott CPU so you are safe!The problem appears to be
>>with the L1/L2 cache of the Prescott PC on i863/i875 motherboards only.
>
> Are you sure he's in that situation?
>
> There are at least 5 Socket 478 2.4GHz CPUs...
>
> 1) 128k L2, 400MHz base
> 2) 256k L2, 533MHz base
> 3) 512k L2, 533MHz base
> 4) 512k L2, 800MHz base, HT
> 5) 1024k L2, 533MHz base, HT
>
> ...of which (1) and (2) are Celeron, (3-5) are Pentium 4, and (2) and
> (5) are Prescott. The Prescott P4-2.4 is anomalous in that it has the
> slower 533MHz base speed, compared to the older version.
>
> That's why I asked him if he was Prescott. Are you Prescott?
>
> Another factor that came up was S-ATA. My motherboard has the usual
> 875P S-ATA, but also an added Promise S-ATA that does RAID0/1. In my
> case, the system HD wasn't S-ATA.
>
>
>
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> "We have captured lightning and used
> it to teach sand how to think."
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