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March 10, 2005 7:11:35 PM

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Hi, I'm new to this ng and hope someone can help.
I'm a pc tech and network engineer, no heavy multimedia, gaming, etc....
and I'd like some info on the A8V Deluxe.
I'm interested in whether this board is stable and able to OC reasonably
well. I'm keeping my existing AGP vid and IDE drives and later getting
some SATA drives. I considering this board because of several reviews
I've read and because this seems to be the most active ng, as opposed to
Soltek, Gigabyte and Soyo.
And, lastly, I thinking of the 3500+, any discernible difference between
the Newcastle and Winchester cores?

TIA,
john
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 10, 2005 7:35:58 PM

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Can't address the OC aspect, because I don't do it, but I've
had the A8V Deluxe with a Newcastle 3500+ running for about
45 days now with absolutely no stability problems.

IIRC, the Winchester core is 90nm technology as opposed to
the Newcastle core with 130nm technology. The Winchester
is supposed to run cooler. However, in an Antec Sonata case,
my no-load CPU temp is only 45C and at full load it's 51C,
so I have no temperature problem with the Newcastle.

"name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xk_Xd.86360$sR5.5406@trndny05...
> Hi, I'm new to this ng and hope someone can help.
> I'm a pc tech and network engineer, no heavy multimedia, gaming, etc....
> and I'd like some info on the A8V Deluxe.
> I'm interested in whether this board is stable and able to OC reasonably
> well. I'm keeping my existing AGP vid and IDE drives and later getting
> some SATA drives. I considering this board because of several reviews
> I've read and because this seems to be the most active ng, as opposed to
> Soltek, Gigabyte and Soyo.
> And, lastly, I thinking of the 3500+, any discernible difference between
> the Newcastle and Winchester cores?
>
> TIA,
> john
Anonymous
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March 10, 2005 7:51:03 PM

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Forgot to mention that I'm running an IDE drive as
well as two SATA drives too. No problems at all.

"CapeGuy" <CapeGuy@devnull.com> wrote in message
news:o H_Xd.87268$H05.16919@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Can't address the OC aspect, because I don't do it, but I've
> had the A8V Deluxe with a Newcastle 3500+ running for about
> 45 days now with absolutely no stability problems.
>
> IIRC, the Winchester core is 90nm technology as opposed to
> the Newcastle core with 130nm technology. The Winchester
> is supposed to run cooler. However, in an Antec Sonata case,
> my no-load CPU temp is only 45C and at full load it's 51C,
> so I have no temperature problem with the Newcastle.
>
> "name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xk_Xd.86360$sR5.5406@trndny05...
>> Hi, I'm new to this ng and hope someone can help.
>> I'm a pc tech and network engineer, no heavy multimedia, gaming, etc....
>> and I'd like some info on the A8V Deluxe.
>> I'm interested in whether this board is stable and able to OC reasonably
>> well. I'm keeping my existing AGP vid and IDE drives and later getting
>> some SATA drives. I considering this board because of several reviews
>> I've read and because this seems to be the most active ng, as opposed to
>> Soltek, Gigabyte and Soyo.
>> And, lastly, I thinking of the 3500+, any discernible difference between
>> the Newcastle and Winchester cores?
>>
>> TIA,
>> john
>
>
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March 10, 2005 8:15:14 PM

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CapeGuy wrote:
> Forgot to mention that I'm running an IDE drive as
> well as two SATA drives too. No problems at all.
>
> "CapeGuy" <CapeGuy@devnull.com> wrote in message
> news:o H_Xd.87268$H05.16919@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>Can't address the OC aspect, because I don't do it, but I've
>>had the A8V Deluxe with a Newcastle 3500+ running for about
>>45 days now with absolutely no stability problems.
>>
>>IIRC, the Winchester core is 90nm technology as opposed to
>>the Newcastle core with 130nm technology. The Winchester
>>is supposed to run cooler. However, in an Antec Sonata case,
>>my no-load CPU temp is only 45C and at full load it's 51C,
>>so I have no temperature problem with the Newcastle.
>>
>>"name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:Xk_Xd.86360$sR5.5406@trndny05...
>>
>>>Hi, I'm new to this ng and hope someone can help.
>>>I'm a pc tech and network engineer, no heavy multimedia, gaming, etc....
>>>and I'd like some info on the A8V Deluxe.
>>>I'm interested in whether this board is stable and able to OC reasonably
>>>well. I'm keeping my existing AGP vid and IDE drives and later getting
>>>some SATA drives. I considering this board because of several reviews
>>>I've read and because this seems to be the most active ng, as opposed to
>>>Soltek, Gigabyte and Soyo.
>>>And, lastly, I thinking of the 3500+, any discernible difference between
>>>the Newcastle and Winchester cores?
>>>
>>>TIA,
>>>john
>>
>>
>
>
Thanks for the info. I'll go with the Winchester. I have an Antec full
tower with 3 fans and with no intensive cpu loads I'm not worried about
heat. How's the RAID software with this board?
Anonymous
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March 10, 2005 8:25:38 PM

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"name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:423080AC.7040000@verizon.net...
> CapeGuy wrote:
>> Forgot to mention that I'm running an IDE drive as
>> well as two SATA drives too. No problems at all.
>>
>> "CapeGuy" <CapeGuy@devnull.com> wrote in message
>> news:o H_Xd.87268$H05.16919@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>
>>>Can't address the OC aspect, because I don't do it, but I've
>>>had the A8V Deluxe with a Newcastle 3500+ running for about
>>>45 days now with absolutely no stability problems.
>>>
>>>IIRC, the Winchester core is 90nm technology as opposed to
>>>the Newcastle core with 130nm technology. The Winchester
>>>is supposed to run cooler. However, in an Antec Sonata case,
>>>my no-load CPU temp is only 45C and at full load it's 51C,
>>>so I have no temperature problem with the Newcastle.
>>>
>>>"name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Xk_Xd.86360$sR5.5406@trndny05...
>>>
>>>>Hi, I'm new to this ng and hope someone can help.
>>>>I'm a pc tech and network engineer, no heavy multimedia, gaming, etc....
>>>>and I'd like some info on the A8V Deluxe.
>>>>I'm interested in whether this board is stable and able to OC reasonably
>>>>well. I'm keeping my existing AGP vid and IDE drives and later getting
>>>>some SATA drives. I considering this board because of several reviews
>>>>I've read and because this seems to be the most active ng, as opposed to
>>>>Soltek, Gigabyte and Soyo.
>>>>And, lastly, I thinking of the 3500+, any discernible difference between
>>>>the Newcastle and Winchester cores?
>>>>
>>>>TIA,
>>>>john
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> Thanks for the info. I'll go with the Winchester. I have an Antec full
> tower with 3 fans and with no intensive cpu loads I'm not worried about
> heat. How's the RAID software with this board?

Sorry, but I can't comment on that. I'm not running RAID.
Anonymous
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March 10, 2005 10:42:48 PM

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A word of caution:

The A8V Rev 2 requires BIOS version 1007 or later, to work properly with
Winchester CPUs. Some of the newer CPUs want BIOS 1009.

http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.as...

It may be possible to update the BIOS if you have a Winchester CPU, but I've
not done that. (My 3500+ is a Newcastle, purchased last summer. The
Thermalright XP-120 heatsink that I'm using with it is probably absurd, but
it weighs less than some smaller all-copper ones.)

I've had no trouble with the Via SATA RAID controller, with a mild overclock
(220 MHz FSB, AGP/PCI lock set to 66/33 MHz). This is with a pair of
WD1600JD drives in RAID 0. Some recommend using the Promise controller
instead, but I haven't tried it.

HTH.

Bob Knowlden

Address may be scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.

"name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:423080AC.7040000@verizon.net...
> CapeGuy wrote:
>> Forgot to mention that I'm running an IDE drive as
>> well as two SATA drives too. No problems at all.
(snip)
>>
> Thanks for the info. I'll go with the Winchester. I have an Antec full
> tower with 3 fans and with no intensive cpu loads I'm not worried about
> heat. How's the RAID software with this board?
>
March 11, 2005 6:13:52 AM

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Bob Knowlden wrote:
> A word of caution:
>
> The A8V Rev 2 requires BIOS version 1007 or later, to work properly with
> Winchester CPUs. Some of the newer CPUs want BIOS 1009.
>
> http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.as...
>
> It may be possible to update the BIOS if you have a Winchester CPU, but I've
> not done that. (My 3500+ is a Newcastle, purchased last summer. The
> Thermalright XP-120 heatsink that I'm using with it is probably absurd, but
> it weighs less than some smaller all-copper ones.)
>
> I've had no trouble with the Via SATA RAID controller, with a mild overclock
> (220 MHz FSB, AGP/PCI lock set to 66/33 MHz). This is with a pair of
> WD1600JD drives in RAID 0. Some recommend using the Promise controller
> instead, but I haven't tried it.
>
> HTH.
>
> Bob Knowlden
>
> Address may be scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
>
> "name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:423080AC.7040000@verizon.net...
>
>>CapeGuy wrote:
>>
>>>Forgot to mention that I'm running an IDE drive as
>>>well as two SATA drives too. No problems at all.
>
> (snip)
>
>>Thanks for the info. I'll go with the Winchester. I have an Antec full
>>tower with 3 fans and with no intensive cpu loads I'm not worried about
>>heat. How's the RAID software with this board?
>>
>
>
>
That's important to know. There's not too much of a price difference,
so whatever is easiest to setup. I'm more concerned about the right
heatsink and grease, probrably Thermalright and Artic Silver, but I'm
ordering from newegg.com and there good about letting you know what you
need. I'm ordering RAM from Mushkin and their reps are, also, very
knowledgeable. I'll play around with both RAID controllers and see what
happens. I'm not sure which controller I'm going to boot from, it
depends if I'm going with SATA drives now or later.

I thank you for all your help.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 11, 2005 6:13:53 AM

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I'm running 2 sata 160 gig drives in Raid 0. I'm using the Promise Raid. I
initially setup using the Via Raid but as soon as I overclocked to 10% the
Via Raid config was lost. I have seen a lot of posts about the Via Raid not
functioning well with any overclocking whereas the Promise can handle it
well.
I am very pleased with this board as the performance and stability is
fantastic.

Antec SLK3700AMB
Enermax 420W
A8V Deluxe.
Newcastle 3500+
1 Gig PC3200 setup in Dual Channel
BFG 6800 Overclocked.




"name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:42310CFB.8050400@verizon.net...
> Bob Knowlden wrote:
>> A word of caution:
>>
>> The A8V Rev 2 requires BIOS version 1007 or later, to work properly with
>> Winchester CPUs. Some of the newer CPUs want BIOS 1009.
>>
>> http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.as...
>>
>> It may be possible to update the BIOS if you have a Winchester CPU, but
>> I've not done that. (My 3500+ is a Newcastle, purchased last summer. The
>> Thermalright XP-120 heatsink that I'm using with it is probably absurd,
>> but it weighs less than some smaller all-copper ones.)
>>
>> I've had no trouble with the Via SATA RAID controller, with a mild
>> overclock (220 MHz FSB, AGP/PCI lock set to 66/33 MHz). This is with a
>> pair of WD1600JD drives in RAID 0. Some recommend using the Promise
>> controller instead, but I haven't tried it.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> Bob Knowlden
>>
>> Address may be scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
>>
>> "name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:423080AC.7040000@verizon.net...
>>
>>>CapeGuy wrote:
>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention that I'm running an IDE drive as
>>>>well as two SATA drives too. No problems at all.
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>Thanks for the info. I'll go with the Winchester. I have an Antec full
>>>tower with 3 fans and with no intensive cpu loads I'm not worried about
>>>heat. How's the RAID software with this board?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> That's important to know. There's not too much of a price difference, so
> whatever is easiest to setup. I'm more concerned about the right heatsink
> and grease, probrably Thermalright and Artic Silver, but I'm ordering from
> newegg.com and there good about letting you know what you need. I'm
> ordering RAM from Mushkin and their reps are, also, very knowledgeable.
> I'll play around with both RAID controllers and see what happens. I'm not
> sure which controller I'm going to boot from, it depends if I'm going with
> SATA drives now or later.
>
> I thank you for all your help.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 11, 2005 10:34:09 AM

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Quoth The Raven "name"<vze4j6mv@verizon.net> in
Xk_Xd.86360$sR5.5406@trndny05
> Hi, I'm new to this ng and hope someone can help.
> I'm a pc tech and network engineer, no heavy multimedia, gaming,
> etc.... and I'd like some info on the A8V Deluxe.
> I'm interested in whether this board is stable and able to OC
> reasonably well. I'm keeping my existing AGP vid and IDE drives and
> later getting some SATA drives. I considering this board because of
> several reviews I've read and because this seems to be the most
> active ng, as opposed to Soltek, Gigabyte and Soyo.
> And, lastly, I thinking of the 3500+, any discernible difference
> between the Newcastle and Winchester cores?
>
> TIA,
> john

I just OC'ed my 3000+ up 600MHz to a 3800+ equivalent cpu. not bad on this
board. however I am having voltage problems and a slight instability with
Pime95. games run great though, no crashes. I use a Winchester core as it
has the 90nm tech, while the Newcastle has the older 130nm. you can over
that 3500 close to a 4000+ or more with this board on that cpu, while still
being 90nm.

--
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

Take out the _CURSEING to reply to me
Anonymous
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March 11, 2005 8:21:38 PM

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Hi, all A8V's have the correct bios now, mine was purchased last nov and
worked with a Winchester right out of the box....
ChrisC
"Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8MidnbUngcsWdK3fRVn-gg@comcast.com...
>A word of caution:
>
> The A8V Rev 2 requires BIOS version 1007 or later, to work properly with
> Winchester CPUs. Some of the newer CPUs want BIOS 1009.
>
> http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.as...
>
> It may be possible to update the BIOS if you have a Winchester CPU, but
> I've not done that. (My 3500+ is a Newcastle, purchased last summer. The
> Thermalright XP-120 heatsink that I'm using with it is probably absurd,
> but it weighs less than some smaller all-copper ones.)
>
> I've had no trouble with the Via SATA RAID controller, with a mild
> overclock (220 MHz FSB, AGP/PCI lock set to 66/33 MHz). This is with a
> pair of WD1600JD drives in RAID 0. Some recommend using the Promise
> controller instead, but I haven't tried it.
>
> HTH.
>
> Bob Knowlden
>
> Address may be scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
>
> "name" <vze4j6mv@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:423080AC.7040000@verizon.net...
>> CapeGuy wrote:
>>> Forgot to mention that I'm running an IDE drive as
>>> well as two SATA drives too. No problems at all.
> (snip)
>>>
>> Thanks for the info. I'll go with the Winchester. I have an Antec full
>> tower with 3 fans and with no intensive cpu loads I'm not worried about
>> heat. How's the RAID software with this board?
>>
>
>
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