Lots of advice on my BIOS needed

[Guest]

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Hey guys,

I have another month before I have all of my parts to begin my build of my
Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2. I am getting a matched pair of Patriot RAM that
runs @ 3200 2-2-2-5 or better. I am getting a Thermalright XP-120
Heatsink. Just ordered a nice Enermax 120mm fan for it. I am using a
cheap case/PS until I can afford a better PS in a couple of months. At
least it is 17 or so Amps on the 12V, can't wait to replace it. I know all
about the importance of a good power supply so you don't have to convince
me of anything, I will be saving for an Enermax.

I haven't done any BIOS setting changes since those on my current rig, an
antique of a IWill BS100 BX based PentiumIII non-coppermine so I have a LOT
of learning to do, and I need some major hand-holding if you guys won't get
pissed off for me asking, please.

I know nothing about timings, what 1T vs. 2T is, or any of the other RAM
settings. More than 1/2 of the stuff in the book about BIOS settings has
me a little lost, so I could use some advice on what things to change from
stock BIOS setup.

What sort of settings do I want, especially to overclock? What types of
things do I have to watch out for?

If I can just pick your brains as much as possible, and that includes some
help from you, Paul, if it is ok, I would be in joy.

Thanks!

 

[Paul]

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In article <1vze1d8tprhfu.1g8hhr77hcc63.dlg@40tude.net>,
signmeuptoo@earthlink.net wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> I have another month before I have all of my parts to begin my build of my
> Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2. I am getting a matched pair of Patriot RAM that
> runs @ 3200 2-2-2-5 or better. I am getting a Thermalright XP-120
> Heatsink. Just ordered a nice Enermax 120mm fan for it. I am using a
> cheap case/PS until I can afford a better PS in a couple of months. At
> least it is 17 or so Amps on the 12V, can't wait to replace it. I know all
> about the importance of a good power supply so you don't have to convince
> me of anything, I will be saving for an Enermax.
>
> I haven't done any BIOS setting changes since those on my current rig, an
> antique of a IWill BS100 BX based PentiumIII non-coppermine so I have a LOT
> of learning to do, and I need some major hand-holding if you guys won't get
> pissed off for me asking, please.
>
> I know nothing about timings, what 1T vs. 2T is, or any of the other RAM
> settings. More than 1/2 of the stuff in the book about BIOS settings has
> me a little lost, so I could use some advice on what things to change from
> stock BIOS setup.
>
> What sort of settings do I want, especially to overclock? What types of
> things do I have to watch out for?
>
> If I can just pick your brains as much as possible, and that includes some
> help from you, Paul, if it is ok, I would be in joy.
>
> Thanks!

Have a look around. The private forums have the primers.
The truth is out there...
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=1502092

Also, basic BIOS settings are documented here:
http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=9

Paul

 

[Guest]

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:29:58 -0500, Paul wrote:

> In article <1vze1d8tprhfu.1g8hhr77hcc63.dlg@40tude.net>,
> signmeuptoo@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I have another month before I have all of my parts to begin my build of my
>> Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2. I am getting a matched pair of Patriot RAM that
>> runs @ 3200 2-2-2-5 or better. I am getting a Thermalright XP-120
>> Heatsink. Just ordered a nice Enermax 120mm fan for it. I am using a
>> cheap case/PS until I can afford a better PS in a couple of months. At
>> least it is 17 or so Amps on the 12V, can't wait to replace it. I know all
>> about the importance of a good power supply so you don't have to convince
>> me of anything, I will be saving for an Enermax.
>>
>> I haven't done any BIOS setting changes since those on my current rig, an
>> antique of a IWill BS100 BX based PentiumIII non-coppermine so I have a LOT
>> of learning to do, and I need some major hand-holding if you guys won't get
>> pissed off for me asking, please.
>>
>> I know nothing about timings, what 1T vs. 2T is, or any of the other RAM
>> settings. More than 1/2 of the stuff in the book about BIOS settings has
>> me a little lost, so I could use some advice on what things to change from
>> stock BIOS setup.
>>
>> What sort of settings do I want, especially to overclock? What types of
>> things do I have to watch out for?
>>
>> If I can just pick your brains as much as possible, and that includes some
>> help from you, Paul, if it is ok, I would be in joy.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> Have a look around. The private forums have the primers.
> The truth is out there...
> http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=1502092
>
> Also, basic BIOS settings are documented here:
> http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=9
>
> Paul

Paul, thanks very much for the links, great information. I know it will
give me a good start!

 

[mercury]

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1. download the manual from asus.
sorry can't provide the link... asus site does not work for me...
2. check the memory compatability page while there.
I strongly recommend getting ram either off the list, off someone that will
guarantee it will work on the mobo, or by recommendation from someone in
this group. Sorry I had never heard of patriot ram....
3. go to http://www.rojakpot.com/ to read up about bios parameters.
4. in general you change what needs (has to be) changed in a bios, not play
like a politician and the economy and twiddle everything in sight When
buying the mobo knwo what bios is current, and check what is installed.

5. do not penny pinch on the psu.

The thermalright may be overkill. Athlon XP winchester core CPU's are a lot
cooler than P4 so youmay end up with an expensive howler of a cooler (I
don't know the fan) cooling an already quite cool cpu.

I'd suggest asking people what they recommend - state what you want first.
If you want a quiet system, then that is a key requirement.




"signmeuptoo" <signmeuptoo_no_spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1vze1d8tprhfu.1g8hhr77hcc63.dlg@40tude.net...
> Hey guys,
>
> I have another month before I have all of my parts to begin my build of my
> Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2. I am getting a matched pair of Patriot RAM that
> runs @ 3200 2-2-2-5 or better. I am getting a Thermalright XP-120
> Heatsink. Just ordered a nice Enermax 120mm fan for it. I am using a
> cheap case/PS until I can afford a better PS in a couple of months. At
> least it is 17 or so Amps on the 12V, can't wait to replace it. I know
> all
> about the importance of a good power supply so you don't have to convince
> me of anything, I will be saving for an Enermax.
>
> I haven't done any BIOS setting changes since those on my current rig, an
> antique of a IWill BS100 BX based PentiumIII non-coppermine so I have a
> LOT
> of learning to do, and I need some major hand-holding if you guys won't
> get
> pissed off for me asking, please.
>
> I know nothing about timings, what 1T vs. 2T is, or any of the other RAM
> settings. More than 1/2 of the stuff in the book about BIOS settings has
> me a little lost, so I could use some advice on what things to change from
> stock BIOS setup.
>
> What sort of settings do I want, especially to overclock? What types of
> things do I have to watch out for?
>
> If I can just pick your brains as much as possible, and that includes some
> help from you, Paul, if it is ok, I would be in joy.
>
> Thanks!

 

[Guest]

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:46:22 +1300, Mercury wrote:

> 1. download the manual from asus.
> sorry can't provide the link... asus site does not work for me...
> 2. check the memory compatability page while there.
> I strongly recommend getting ram either off the list, off someone that will
> guarantee it will work on the mobo, or by recommendation from someone in
> this group. Sorry I had never heard of patriot ram....
> 3. go to http://www.rojakpot.com/ to read up about bios parameters.
> 4. in general you change what needs (has to be) changed in a bios, not play
> like a politician and the economy and twiddle everything in sight When
> buying the mobo knwo what bios is current, and check what is installed.
>
> 5. do not penny pinch on the psu.
>
> The thermalright may be overkill. Athlon XP winchester core CPU's are a lot
> cooler than P4 so youmay end up with an expensive howler of a cooler (I
> don't know the fan) cooling an already quite cool cpu.
>
> I'd suggest asking people what they recommend - state what you want first.
> If you want a quiet system, then that is a key requirement.
>
>
>
>
> "signmeuptoo" <signmeuptoo_no_spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1vze1d8tprhfu.1g8hhr77hcc63.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I have another month before I have all of my parts to begin my build of my
>> Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2. I am getting a matched pair of Patriot RAM that
>> runs @ 3200 2-2-2-5 or better. I am getting a Thermalright XP-120
>> Heatsink. Just ordered a nice Enermax 120mm fan for it. I am using a
>> cheap case/PS until I can afford a better PS in a couple of months. At
>> least it is 17 or so Amps on the 12V, can't wait to replace it. I know
>> all
>> about the importance of a good power supply so you don't have to convince
>> me of anything, I will be saving for an Enermax.
>>
>> I haven't done any BIOS setting changes since those on my current rig, an
>> antique of a IWill BS100 BX based PentiumIII non-coppermine so I have a
>> LOT
>> of learning to do, and I need some major hand-holding if you guys won't
>> get
>> pissed off for me asking, please.
>>
>> I know nothing about timings, what 1T vs. 2T is, or any of the other RAM
>> settings. More than 1/2 of the stuff in the book about BIOS settings has
>> me a little lost, so I could use some advice on what things to change from
>> stock BIOS setup.
>>
>> What sort of settings do I want, especially to overclock? What types of
>> things do I have to watch out for?
>>
>> If I can just pick your brains as much as possible, and that includes some
>> help from you, Paul, if it is ok, I would be in joy.
>>
>> Thanks!


Why did you have to say that, #5, I already said that I am getting a good
supply, and I know all about how important it is, darn it. I know better
already.

As far as the Heatsink, I just want it because that heatsink will probably
work in future systems too, I don't want to use the stock heatsink, and the
XP-120 is lighter than the others out there that are good, it just plain is
the best choice.

What I was wanting is some tips on settings, why didn't you offer any?
When a person asks for bread why do you give me lead? No offense, I am
doing the legwork myself, but I thought that you guys might throw some tips
my way.

I just want some starters.

 

[Guest]

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signmeuptoo wrote:
> Why did you have to say that, #5, I already said that I am getting a good
> supply, and I know all about how important it is, darn it. I know better
> already.

If your PSU fails under the load of the new system, then who knows HOW
it might fail? Hopefully it'll just switch off, but perhaps it will
toast your motherboard and everything plugged into it.

You say you know that you know how important it is, yet you are still
willing to plug all your new shiny kit into your cheap old one.

I think point 5 was valid, regardless of whether you want to stick your
fingers in your ears and shout "LA LA LA LA" or not.

Ben
--
A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...

 

[Guest]

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Sorry for getting angry guys. I was just trying to say that **I AM**
getting a good supply. And I just wanted some tips on BIOS and I wasn't
getting them.

Please let me know if you have any more advice. I am starting a power
supply thread.

Peace.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:45:41 GMT, signmeuptoo wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> I have another month before I have all of my parts to begin my build of my
> Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2. I am getting a matched pair of Patriot RAM that
> runs @ 3200 2-2-2-5 or better. I am getting a Thermalright XP-120
> Heatsink. Just ordered a nice Enermax 120mm fan for it. I am using a
> cheap case/PS until I can afford a better PS in a couple of months. At
> least it is 17 or so Amps on the 12V, can't wait to replace it. I know all
> about the importance of a good power supply so you don't have to convince
> me of anything, I will be saving for an Enermax.
>
> I haven't done any BIOS setting changes since those on my current rig, an
> antique of a IWill BS100 BX based PentiumIII non-coppermine so I have a LOT
> of learning to do, and I need some major hand-holding if you guys won't get
> pissed off for me asking, please.
>
> I know nothing about timings, what 1T vs. 2T is, or any of the other RAM
> settings. More than 1/2 of the stuff in the book about BIOS settings has
> me a little lost, so I could use some advice on what things to change from
> stock BIOS setup.
>
> What sort of settings do I want, especially to overclock? What types of
> things do I have to watch out for?
>
> If I can just pick your brains as much as possible, and that includes some
> help from you, Paul, if it is ok, I would be in joy.
>
> Thanks!

 

[Guest]

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"signmeuptoo" <signmeuptoo_no_spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1ok4l3xne24xt.1d0vwfg9dka1d$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Tim, I couldn't agree more with you, Art, and Ben and Mercury. What I
> reacted to was the feeling that you all didn't get my point that I intend
> on getting a good supply, a very good one.
>
> I live off of disability but I am determined to make a great computer,
> little bit at a time. I thought that I could get the RAM and CPU first so
> I could at least get up and running while using my existing case and 420W
> Power supply. Yes it is a generic, but it has been working fine from what
> I can tell so far with my old BX motherboard setup.
>
> I have been agonizing over this and I apologize to those that I got
> irritated with because I am a strong believer in making the power supply
> the MOST important part of the computer.
>
> That is why I think that I am going to get this one:
>
> http://www.maxpoint.com/products/pow_supp/spec_pg/noistakerax2/index.htm#
>
> The ripple values are very good, it has great overvolt, overcurrent, over
> temp protection, conforms to every old standard out there (seemingly), has
> very strong load support for both 12V rails let alone all of the other
> Volt
> rails. I am VERY open to suggestions, but I will ask for power supply
> suggestions in a new thread so that I can stay OnT, ok?
>
> As far as the Heat Sink, and getting an OEM CPU, naw, won't do that.
> Here's why:
>
> If I get OEM I only have a 90 day or whatever warranty. What I plan on
> doing is getting a retail package and even still get the XP-120. Here's
> why I insist on doing so: I want full warranty, if I have trouble I can
> return with retail heatsink if required. If it is my fault I will eat the
> loss though. The thing is that the XP-120 Heatsink fits on my
> motherboard,
> the A8V Deluxe V.2 and it is the single best one out there. You can run a
> powerful fan but on a really low, quiet speed because the Heatsink is so
> good, hence a quieter computer, something I ache for.
>
> If there is any chance to revive this thread and convince people of
> responding to my question instead I would be very touched.
>
> To make all of you happy, and myself less nervous, I will buy the power
> supply first. Each month I plan on getting a new part until I am built.
> This month the Power Supply, next month the case, following 2 months saved
> to get a Venice CPU & RAM. This way in August I will be running. A long
> wait, but I will have a good system.
>
> The reason that I wanted to get the CPU and RAM first was that way I
> wouldn't have had to wait as long to be at least up and running. But if
> you all thing that it is that dangerous to use this power supply, then I
> will wait until summer.
>
Good idea, get the power supply first and the case, or buy everything in
August and with the money saved you can take yourself and the honey out for
a nice meal. The ps and the case don't drop in price as fast as the other
components with the exception of ram, which can go in any direction. When
August rolls around the components you wanted to buy now will be cheaper and
you can go one better for the same cash.

 

[Tim]

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Yip, and your more likely to get the mobo with the BIOS you actually need.
- Tim

"Clark Griswold" <f@i.net> wrote in message
news:tOWdneTAlfC_aavfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> "signmeuptoo" <signmeuptoo_no_spam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1ok4l3xne24xt.1d0vwfg9dka1d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Tim, I couldn't agree more with you, Art, and Ben and Mercury. What I
>> reacted to was the feeling that you all didn't get my point that I intend
>> on getting a good supply, a very good one.
>>
>> I live off of disability but I am determined to make a great computer,
>> little bit at a time. I thought that I could get the RAM and CPU first
>> so
>> I could at least get up and running while using my existing case and 420W
>> Power supply. Yes it is a generic, but it has been working fine from
>> what
>> I can tell so far with my old BX motherboard setup.
>>
>> I have been agonizing over this and I apologize to those that I got
>> irritated with because I am a strong believer in making the power supply
>> the MOST important part of the computer.
>>
>> That is why I think that I am going to get this one:
>>
>> http://www.maxpoint.com/products/pow_supp/spec_pg/noistakerax2/index.htm#
>>
>> The ripple values are very good, it has great overvolt, overcurrent, over
>> temp protection, conforms to every old standard out there (seemingly),
>> has
>> very strong load support for both 12V rails let alone all of the other
>> Volt
>> rails. I am VERY open to suggestions, but I will ask for power supply
>> suggestions in a new thread so that I can stay OnT, ok?
>>
>> As far as the Heat Sink, and getting an OEM CPU, naw, won't do that.
>> Here's why:
>>
>> If I get OEM I only have a 90 day or whatever warranty. What I plan on
>> doing is getting a retail package and even still get the XP-120. Here's
>> why I insist on doing so: I want full warranty, if I have trouble I can
>> return with retail heatsink if required. If it is my fault I will eat
>> the
>> loss though. The thing is that the XP-120 Heatsink fits on my
>> motherboard,
>> the A8V Deluxe V.2 and it is the single best one out there. You can run
>> a
>> powerful fan but on a really low, quiet speed because the Heatsink is so
>> good, hence a quieter computer, something I ache for.
>>
>> If there is any chance to revive this thread and convince people of
>> responding to my question instead I would be very touched.
>>
>> To make all of you happy, and myself less nervous, I will buy the power
>> supply first. Each month I plan on getting a new part until I am built.
>> This month the Power Supply, next month the case, following 2 months
>> saved
>> to get a Venice CPU & RAM. This way in August I will be running. A long
>> wait, but I will have a good system.
>>
>> The reason that I wanted to get the CPU and RAM first was that way I
>> wouldn't have had to wait as long to be at least up and running. But if
>> you all thing that it is that dangerous to use this power supply, then I
>> will wait until summer.
>>
> Good idea, get the power supply first and the case, or buy everything in
> August and with the money saved you can take yourself and the honey out
> for a nice meal. The ps and the case don't drop in price as fast as the
> other components with the exception of ram, which can go in any direction.
> When August rolls around the components you wanted to buy now will be
> cheaper and you can go one better for the same cash.
>