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March 20, 2005 11:24:58 PM

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Hello,

Is it normal for ASUS K8V SE's v1005 BIOS hardware monitor to say
142(F)/61(C) degrees is too hot? I thought Athlon 64 3200+ CPUs were
supposed to handle much higher temperature before telling me. This is
after a heavy load like during gaming with 107(F)/42 degrees(C) for
motherboard sensor and 80(F)/27(C) degrees room.

Thank you in advance. :) 
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March 20, 2005 11:24:59 PM

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It shouldn't warn that it's 60C when it's 42C.

But 60C is as hot as you want to get.


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March 21, 2005 2:34:08 AM

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Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> wrote:
> It shouldn't warn that it's 60C when it's 42C.

> But 60C is as hot as you want to get.

Hmmm, I guess I need to cool this CPU down. Grrr. I am using the fan
that came with the retail Athlon 64 CPU box.
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March 21, 2005 1:23:06 PM

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:24:58 -0600, ANTant wrote:

> Is it normal for ASUS K8V SE's v1005 BIOS hardware monitor to say
> 142(F)/61(C) degrees is too hot? I thought Athlon 64 3200+ CPUs were
> supposed to handle much higher temperature before telling me. This is
> after a heavy load like during gaming with 107(F)/42 degrees(C) for
> motherboard sensor and 80(F)/27(C) degrees room.
>
Normally you set the warning temp to whatever you want in the bios, but
I'd call 61C too hot, way too hot. I have my CPU warning temp set to 55C.
It could be you have an older bios with a newer core and the MB temps
aren't correct. If that's the case, upgrade the bios. But one problem I
see is a case temp of 42C, if it's correct. That's 15C over room temp and
shows that you don't have adequate case cooling. Right now my room temp is
21C, MB/case temp is 25C, and CPU temp is 30C (using powernow). Under load
it'll get to about 40-45C depending on room temp.

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March 21, 2005 5:24:58 PM

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ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it normal for ASUS K8V SE's v1005 BIOS hardware monitor to say
> 142(F)/61(C) degrees is too hot? I thought Athlon 64 3200+ CPUs were
> supposed to handle much higher temperature before telling me. This is
> after a heavy load like during gaming with 107(F)/42 degrees(C) for
> motherboard sensor and 80(F)/27(C) degrees room.
>
> Thank you in advance. :) 

61 degrees is a bit warm (and especially 68 degrees as you mentioned in
another post). Could be what is happening is that the area of the case
near the CPU does not have enough air circulation and heat is building up.

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March 21, 2005 8:44:37 PM

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Take the side off the case and check temps then. If you get a marked
improvement then the problem is air circulation in the case.

If not, then check the CPU heatsink has been mounted correctly.

Athlon 64 cpu's aren't too bad although the FX tops out at around 100 watts
according to the AMD specs (people report that it doesn't seem to get near
that).



<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> wrote:
>> It shouldn't warn that it's 60C when it's 42C.
>
>> But 60C is as hot as you want to get.
>
> Hmmm, I guess I need to cool this CPU down. Grrr. I am using the fan
> that came with the retail Athlon 64 CPU box.
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March 21, 2005 8:44:38 PM

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Tim <Tim@nospam.com> wrote:
> Take the side off the case and check temps then. If you get a marked
> improvement then the problem is air circulation in the case.

> If not, then check the CPU heatsink has been mounted correctly.

> Athlon 64 cpu's aren't too bad although the FX tops out at around 100 watts
> according to the AMD specs (people report that it doesn't seem to get near
> that).

I was able to reach 154(F)/68(C) degrees last night with cpuburn with the
case close. I left it running for 15-20 minutes. Maybe it is not the CPU.
Hmm.

I read somewhere that the BIOS shouldn't tell you about CPU overheating
at those numbers. Maybe I misread that.


> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
> news:B8udnVSG_cBNwaPfRVn-ig@mminternet.net...
> > Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> wrote:
> >> It shouldn't warn that it's 60C when it's 42C.
> >
> >> But 60C is as hot as you want to get.
> >
> > Hmmm, I guess I need to cool this CPU down. Grrr. I am using the fan
> > that came with the retail Athlon 64 CPU box.
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March 22, 2005 11:09:36 AM

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<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> Is it normal for ASUS K8V SE's v1005 BIOS hardware monitor to say
> 142(F)/61(C) degrees is too hot? I thought Athlon 64 3200+ CPUs were
> supposed to handle much higher temperature before telling me. This is
> after a heavy load like during gaming with 107(F)/42 degrees(C) for
> motherboard sensor and 80(F)/27(C) degrees room.
>
> Thank you in advance. :) 
> --

I dont have an a64, but I would say that's bloody hot..
Check your heatsink
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March 24, 2005 1:00:18 AM

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Hi

I don't have much personal experience of such problems, but from what I've
seen posted on the Internet about high temps it could be one or more of the
following;

Try updating your motherboard BIOS to the latest version. I've heard that
some older BIOS versions over report CPU temperatures.

If your CPU is overclocked, try reducing the clock speed to a less
aggressive setup.

Check that the air flow in your case is not impeded by untidy or poorly
positioned cabling. Some ribbon cables (such as those used by IDE devices)
can sometimes hinder good airflow.

Do you have enough cooling in the first place? If you are using a older PC
case, it may not have enough fans to cope.

Is the AMD cooler mounted correctly with a good contact between CPU and
heatsink with the thermal paste applied correctly? I've heard it said that
AMD's coolers are a bit more tricky to install properly.

Hope that helps

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<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> Is it normal for ASUS K8V SE's v1005 BIOS hardware monitor to say
> 142(F)/61(C) degrees is too hot? I thought Athlon 64 3200+ CPUs were
> supposed to handle much higher temperature before telling me. This is
> after a heavy load like during gaming with 107(F)/42 degrees(C) for
> motherboard sensor and 80(F)/27(C) degrees room.
>
> Thank you in advance. :) 
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March 24, 2005 1:00:19 AM

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Steve Morris <Stephen.Morris@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi

> I don't have much personal experience of such problems, but from what I've
> seen posted on the Internet about high temps it could be one or more of the
> following;

> Try updating your motherboard BIOS to the latest version. I've heard that
> some older BIOS versions over report CPU temperatures.

It is the latest firmware 1005 according to ASUS' Web site.


> If your CPU is overclocked, try reducing the clock speed to a less
> aggressive setup.

I don't overclock. I even resetted back to defaults to be sure.


> Check that the air flow in your case is not impeded by untidy or poorly
> positioned cabling. Some ribbon cables (such as those used by IDE devices)
> can sometimes hinder good airflow.

I will check again.


> Do you have enough cooling in the first place? If you are using a older PC
> case, it may not have enough fans to cope.

I will have to check. I know the out going air in the back is very warm,
not hot like I burn myself. It's like a heater out of the vents in a home.
Yes, this is an old ATX mid-tower case (taller as my desk, but won't fit
under it).


> Is the AMD cooler mounted correctly with a good contact between CPU and
> heatsink with the thermal paste applied correctly? I've heard it said that
> AMD's coolers are a bit more tricky to install properly.

I believe so. I will have to check it again. Maybe I need to get one of
those CPU cooler like Thermal Volcano9 I had for Athlon XP 2200+ CPU.
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March 27, 2005 12:06:00 PM

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ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
> I will have to check. I know the out going air in the back is very warm,
> not hot like I burn myself. It's like a heater out of the vents in a home.
> Yes, this is an old ATX mid-tower case (taller as my desk, but won't fit
> under it).

If the air coming out is that warm then likely there isn't enough
airflow getting through the case - either the fans aren't sufficient or
something is blocking the airflow from getting through.

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March 27, 2005 9:48:44 PM

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Robert Hancock <hancockr@nospamshaw.ca> wrote:
> ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
> > I will have to check. I know the out going air in the back is very warm,
> > not hot like I burn myself. It's like a heater out of the vents in a home.
> > Yes, this is an old ATX mid-tower case (taller as my desk, but won't fit
> > under it).

> If the air coming out is that warm then likely there isn't enough
> airflow getting through the case - either the fans aren't sufficient or
> something is blocking the airflow from getting through.

Robert, the power supply air coming out from the back of the PC case is
very warm like the heat from a vent during cold temperatures.

From ASUS PC Probe v2.23.04:

CPU Temperature: 60 C/140 F degrees
MB Temperature: 43 C/109 F degrees

CPU Fan: 58xx
Chassis Fan: 2556

This was in an almost 26.7 C/80 F degrees small room.

Since a lot of people says my CPU is too hot, I think I am going to get
a CPU cooler fan like a Thermal Volcano9 I used for Athlon XP 2200+ CPU
before I got an Athlon 64 3200+. I also have an old squirrel fan (still
works, amazingly) that I used to use for my old Voodoo2 cards in the old
days. I could use it in the case somewhere. What do you guys think? :) 
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