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March 24, 2005 1:32:54 AM

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Hello everyone,

My choices are: Both Asus boards :) 

I would like to build one of the below systems. I am just currious as to
what would be a preffered (better) choice. I am a gamer, but also work with
my PC. What would you guy's and gals out there build? I've heard that the
AMD's are the better of the two for a gaming machine. And Intel has more
"horse power) and is just as good as the AMD for gaming. What are the facts
or the in's and out's of the two. I have done extensive research but I am
still undecided.

Hardware to be used with one of the systems:
1- BFG 6800 GT AGP 256 MB DDR3 (currently am using this Video card)
2- 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA HDD used as RAID for OS, Games &
Programs (have to buy)
3- 2x Western Digital 250GB EIDE used as RAID for storage.
4- 1GB (2x 512) DDR Crucial memory used as Dual Channel
5- Pioneer DVR-109 used for DVD/storage burning
6- Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive, model SDM1912-TA (em for reading my media)

1- Asus A8V Deluxe ( )~ Both of the below CPU's have the Winchester core
a- AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
Retail $190.00
b- AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
OEM $319.00

2- Asus P4C800-E Deluxe ( ) ~ Both of the below CPU's have the Prescott core
a- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $215.00
b- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $297.99

Any input you folks might have, would be great to hear (emm read)

Thank you in advance

Richard

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Anonymous
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March 24, 2005 6:38:06 AM

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Asus A8V Deluxe and AMD Athlon 64 3500+





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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 24, 2005 2:42:59 PM

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Richard K Rabbat wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> My choices are: Both Asus boards :) 
>
> I would like to build one of the below systems. I am just currious as to
> what would be a preffered (better) choice. I am a gamer, but also work with
> my PC. What would you guy's and gals out there build? I've heard that the
> AMD's are the better of the two for a gaming machine. And Intel has more
> "horse power) and is just as good as the AMD for gaming. What are the facts
> or the in's and out's of the two. I have done extensive research but I am
> still undecided.
>
> Hardware to be used with one of the systems:
> 1- BFG 6800 GT AGP 256 MB DDR3 (currently am using this Video card)
> 2- 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA HDD used as RAID for OS, Games &
> Programs (have to buy)
> 3- 2x Western Digital 250GB EIDE used as RAID for storage.
> 4- 1GB (2x 512) DDR Crucial memory used as Dual Channel
> 5- Pioneer DVR-109 used for DVD/storage burning
> 6- Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive, model SDM1912-TA (em for reading my media)
>
> 1- Asus A8V Deluxe ( )~ Both of the below CPU's have the Winchester core
> a- AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
> Retail $190.00
> b- AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
> OEM $319.00
>
> 2- Asus P4C800-E Deluxe ( ) ~ Both of the below CPU's have the Prescott core
> a- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
> Technology - Retail $215.00
> b- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
> Technology - Retail $297.99
>
> Any input you folks might have, would be great to hear (emm read)
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Richard

I'd get the AMD system, but with nVidia nForce4 chipset (A8N SLI
Deluxe). Ordered mine yesterday. I decided to go with the MSI (Neo4
Diamond) over the Asus board due to the SB Live! and better overclocking
ability.

What sort of RAID do you want? Mirrored, right?

Anyway, the combination of Raptor and 250GB WD does me a treat. (shame
I only have the 36GB and not in pairs, but I'm not jealous. much)

With that many drives, it might be worth considering the options for
SATA - the A8V has 2 native and 2 additional SATA, so you'll expend them
in no time. I'm not sure if the Promise controller sits on a PCI, PCIe
or other bus, but perhaps it might limit performance. The nForce4 has 4
native SATA connections and perform extremely well. Just something to
think about, as the disk subsystem is obviously your thing.

In terms of CPU "horse power" it's difficult to say. The P4 has a very
long pipeline which is great for highly predictable loops, such as video
encoding, but when you mispredict a branch, and have to empty the
pipeline which is expensive. So it depends what you're doing.

Given the power requirements are about half on the AMD (MUCH cooler) and
that the AMD is generally better for gaming, I decided to go AMD.

I also like the idea of being able to throw a dual core chip in the
socket 939 in a few months. :D 

Either way it will be a very nice build.

Make you get a beefy PSU for all that. (I've ordered an Enermax 480W
Coolergiant)

Oh, and also you'll need decent ventilation in your case - especially if
you go with the P4.

Ben
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March 25, 2005 12:39:50 AM

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I agree with Richard.
Asus has a link on their web site that states that all P5 boards are EMT64
ready and has a set of web pages detailing the boards, benefits etc. Having
said that, I would still get the AMD as P4 is EOL.

"Richard K Rabbat" <richardkr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:66ednZMzovKLwt_fRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Hello everyone,
>
> My choices are: Both Asus boards :) 
>
> I would like to build one of the below systems. I am just currious as to
> what would be a preffered (better) choice. I am a gamer, but also work
> with
> my PC. What would you guy's and gals out there build? I've heard that
> the
> AMD's are the better of the two for a gaming machine. And Intel has more
> "horse power) and is just as good as the AMD for gaming. What are the
> facts
> or the in's and out's of the two. I have done extensive research but I am
> still undecided.
>
> Hardware to be used with one of the systems:
> 1- BFG 6800 GT AGP 256 MB DDR3 (currently am using this Video card)
> 2- 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA HDD used as RAID for OS, Games &
> Programs (have to buy)
> 3- 2x Western Digital 250GB EIDE used as RAID for storage.
> 4- 1GB (2x 512) DDR Crucial memory used as Dual Channel
> 5- Pioneer DVR-109 used for DVD/storage burning
> 6- Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive, model SDM1912-TA (em for reading my media)
>
> 1- Asus A8V Deluxe ( )~ Both of the below CPU's have the Winchester core
> a- AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
> Retail $190.00
> b- AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
> OEM $319.00
>
> 2- Asus P4C800-E Deluxe ( ) ~ Both of the below CPU's have the Prescott
> core
> a- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
> Technology - Retail $215.00
> b- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
> Technology - Retail $297.99
>
> Any input you folks might have, would be great to hear (emm read)
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Richard
>
>
March 25, 2005 1:51:39 AM

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AMD definitely, clock for clock they are far faster than intel chips, with a
2.2 Ghz AMD processor able to do the work of a 3.2 Ghz Intel, and the high
end AMD Athlon 64's are closing in on the 3 Ghz mark, so should perform as
well as 4.5 and 5 Ghz P4s
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 25, 2005 10:41:15 AM

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Richard K Rabbat wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> My choices are: Both Asus boards :) 
>
> I would like to build one of the below systems. I am just currious as to
> what would be a preffered (better) choice. I am a gamer, but also work with
> my PC. What would you guy's and gals out there build? I've heard that the
> AMD's are the better of the two for a gaming machine. And Intel has more
> "horse power) and is just as good as the AMD for gaming. What are the facts
> or the in's and out's of the two. I have done extensive research but I am
> still undecided.
>
> Hardware to be used with one of the systems:
> 1- BFG 6800 GT AGP 256 MB DDR3 (currently am using this Video card)
> 2- 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA HDD used as RAID for OS, Games &
> Programs (have to buy)
> 3- 2x Western Digital 250GB EIDE used as RAID for storage.
> 4- 1GB (2x 512) DDR Crucial memory used as Dual Channel
> 5- Pioneer DVR-109 used for DVD/storage burning
> 6- Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive, model SDM1912-TA (em for reading my media)
>
> 1- Asus A8V Deluxe ( )~ Both of the below CPU's have the Winchester core
> a- AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
> Retail $190.00
> b- AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
> OEM $319.00
>
> 2- Asus P4C800-E Deluxe ( ) ~ Both of the below CPU's have the Prescott core
> a- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
> Technology - Retail $215.00
> b- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
> Technology - Retail $297.99
>
> Any input you folks might have, would be great to hear (emm read)
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Richard

AMD is the undisputed champion for gaming, dollar for dollar, mhz for
mhz.
This is a no brainer.
!