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More info?)
I just completed building a new system based on P4P800-E Deluxe. I
bought this board to save a couple of bucks, I was recommended the
P4C800 Deluxe. I am not happy at all with this board - too many
nagging small problems. To get it working I've spent too much time on
it already. I won't recommend it.
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:36:08 GMT, "Amolao" <amolao@sw.rr.com> wrote:
>Thank you guys for the great info, another thing I noticed on the group is
>the bunch of people having problems with the P4P800....
will it be safe to
>go with this Mobo.?.....I know that any product will fail sometime or
>another but I never seen issues with other classics like the P2B series.....
>
>
>thanks
>"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>news:CeT0e.6865$cg1.3648@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Paul wrote:
>>> In article <78M0e.18578$ot.11848@tornado.texas.rr.com>, "Amolao"
>>> <amolao@sw.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Building a new system on a budget for my son, will run WIN XP, games and
>>>>internet. I dont want to spend too much but want to run a P4 and a few
>>>>years of use before the need to upgrade. I read about the P4P800E....is
>>>>this a MB to consider.....??? Im the owner of two P2BB's and very happy
>>>>with the service and lifetime I gotten back from them, definetely want
>>>>to make my next PC an ASUS one. Any reccomendation??? I dont mind being
>>>>behind the power curve and save a little bit.......
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> There are a whole bunch of 875/865 boards to choose from.
>>>
http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040712/i865-i875-mobos-01.html
>>>
>>> If your son is planning on overclocking, then you should have
>>> a look at this article. I bought a P4C800-E after reading this:
>>>
>>>
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62275
>>>
>>> Another board you could consider, is the Asus P5P800. It would be
>>> minus Firewire and minus the Promise 20378 RAID controller, but it
>>> accepts the newer LGA775 processor. It is about $20 cheaper for
>>> the motherboard. Uses DDR memory, AGP card.
>>>
>>> Retail 3.2C Northwood S478 $274 (has heatsink/fan)
>>> OEM 3.0C Northwood S478 $197 (need heatsink/fan)
>>> OEM 2.8C Northwood S478 $189 (need heatsink/fan)
>>> Retail 3.0E Prescott S478 $178 (has heatsink/fan)
>>> Retail 3.2E Prescott S478 $215 (has heatsink/fan) P4 520 2.8Ghz
>>> Prescott LGA775 $159 (retail - has heatsink/fan)
>>> P4 540J 3.2Ghz Prescott LGA775 $224 (retail - has heatsink/fan)
>>>
>>> Of the Prescotts, the 540J will run the coolest at idle.
>>> But the Northwoods do a little better in that regard.
>>> (Retail packaged processors come with a heatsink/fan, while
>>> OEM have just the processor chip in a plastic tray.)
>>>
>>> I guess what you choose, might depend on whether a warm computer
>>> bothers you or not. If the install is in a location without
>>> air conditioning, the room might end up getting a bit warmer
>>> with the new computer. The P4P800-E plus a 2.8C would make
>>> a nice solution. The P5P800 plus a 540J (3.2Ghz) would be
>>> in the same ballpark pricewise, and you get a bit higher clock
>>> speed, and the room gets a bit warmer. (Warm computers bother
>>> me, and after reviewing the numbers, I would still have to
>>> choose the P4P800-E and a Northwood.)
>>>
>>
>> Another thing to keep in mind is that the processor on the P4P800 and the
>> P5P800 is at the top of the motherboard. If you have a mid tower it will
>> probably get too hot as there is no clearance between the CPU and the
>> power supply. I had to get a bigger case for my P5P800 to get the
>> temperatures to a reasonable level. The case also had a top blow hole fan
>> and a side fan to help move the air away from the heat sink.
>>
>>
>>> You will need a power supply with at least a 12V@15amp output
>>> rating. P4 systems have a 2x2 square power connector for the
>>> 12V power that feeds the Vcore regulator for the processor.
>>> So, a new power supply will be needed, if you are used to
>>> P2B boards. Newegg has pictures of many products, and you
>>> can also read the current output ratings. You can also use
>>> the following site, to get some idea of what size power supply
>>> is required, or at least get an estimate of how many amps are
>>> needed on +12V. Usually on power supplies, one rail is loaded
>>> more heavily than the others, and that is +12V in this case.
>>> (fill out the entries from top to bottom)
>>>
>>>
http://takaman.jp/D/?english
>>>
>>> For either board, the best memory config is dual channel.
>>> That means buying two identical memory DIMMs. If you had
>>> planned on a 512MB system, you would buy 2x256MB. For
>>> a 1GB total system, buy 2x512MB. PC3200 CAS3 memory should
>>> work fine with the 865 (or 875) Northbridge. Only buy CAS2
>>> is you have money to burn, or can find a good deal. A good place to get
>>> quality RAM is Crucial.com
>>>
>>>
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=ASUS%2B+Motherboards&mfr=ASUS&cat=RAM&model=P4P800-E+Deluxe&submit=Go
>>>
>>> Other things to check - processor type versus BIOS version.
>>> When the board arrives, look at the paper label on the BIOS
>>> chip, to see if the BIOS is recent enough to run the processor.
>>>
>>>
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx
>>>
>>> Also, download the PDF manual for your planned new board, before
>>> buying it. Look at the BIOS screens, to see what settings are
>>> available. The two boards above don't have any killer issues
>>> in the BIOS, but it pays to be forewarned by reading the manual
>>> first.
>>>
>>> For the case, I would recommend an 80mm fan in the bottom front
>>> of the case, and an 80mm fan in the top rear of the case. If
>>> you get a fan adjuster like the Zalman fanmate (or a drive tray
>>> rheobus), you can adjust the fan speed, to trade off case temp versus
>>> noise. Some power supplies have fan-only power outputs,
>>> which can be used to power the fans, but I find they run the
>>> fans a little too slow.
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>> Paul
>
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