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Anonymous
September 3, 2004 3:22:37 PM

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Hello
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when Windows XP
Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format is "Quick" and
Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 3:22:38 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?

I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively formatting
or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What application are you using to
format the DVD again?

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September 3, 2004 3:22:38 PM

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Does this apply:

The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a DVD-RAM
disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

If not:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...

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"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
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> Hello
> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when Windows
> XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format is "Quick"
> and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
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Anonymous
September 3, 2004 3:22:38 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> Hello
> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?

This is a third party software problem.
XP does not support DVD burning.
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Anonymous
September 3, 2004 3:40:40 PM

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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
I don't use any application to format a DVD-RAM.
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
> formatting
> or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What application are you using to
> format the DVD again?
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 3:42:38 PM

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No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.

"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Does this apply:
>
> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a DVD-RAM
> disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>
> If not:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>
> --
> All the Best,
> Kelly
>
> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hello
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when Windows
>> XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format is
>> "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>
>
>
September 3, 2004 3:42:39 PM

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You need to soften your edges. Hope all goes well for you.

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Kelly

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2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

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"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
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> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Does this apply:
>>
>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a DVD-RAM
>> disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>
>> If not:
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>
>> --
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly
>>
>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello
>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format
>>> is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 4:10:30 PM

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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:uPn8VgYkEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
> formatting
> or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What application are you using to
> format the DVD again?
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 4:10:31 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?


Shenan wrote:
> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
> formatting
> or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What application are you
> using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588

Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not actually
saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it can read/write to
them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining now - possibly it worked
before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows XP do you
have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and trying
again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a Windows
issue and not a hardware one.)

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responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 4:13:26 PM

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
gives 382,000 results about HDDs, not DVD-RAM drives.

"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Does this apply:
>>
>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a DVD-RAM
>> disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>
>> If not:
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>
>> --
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly
>>
>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello
>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format
>>> is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 4:13:27 PM

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So, search for yourself!

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"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
news:o 7%23%23e4YkEHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
> gives 382,000 results about HDDs, not DVD-RAM drives.
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Does this apply:
>>>
>>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>> DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>
>>> If not:
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>
>>> --
>>> All the Best,
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>
>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello
>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format
>>>> is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 4:17:02 PM

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http://www.google.com/search?as_q=%22DVD-RAM%22&num=100...
gives my message and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 only.
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Does this apply:
>
> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a DVD-RAM
> disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>
> If not:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>
> --
> All the Best,
> Kelly
>
> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hello
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when Windows
>> XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format is
>> "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 4:29:57 PM

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Is this your reply when you don't know how to help?
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:o 31v6xYkEHA.3112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You need to soften your edges. Hope all goes well for you.
>
> --
> All the Best,
> Kelly
>
> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Does this apply:
>>>
>>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>> DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>
>>> If not:
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>
>>> --
>>> All the Best,
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>
>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello
>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format
>>>> is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
September 3, 2004 4:29:58 PM

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I know how to help and no, it isn't. However, have you ever heard of the
saying, "Don't burn your bridges"?

Either way........

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm



"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
news:ezButBZkEHA.3372@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Is this your reply when you don't know how to help?
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:o 31v6xYkEHA.3112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> You need to soften your edges. Hope all goes well for you.
>>
>> --
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly
>>
>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>> news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>>
>>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Does this apply:
>>>>
>>>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>>> DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>>
>>>> If not:
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All the Best,
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>>
>>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>>
>>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 4:43:59 PM

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I have not heard.
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23brqAIZkEHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I know how to help and no, it isn't. However, have you ever heard of the
>saying, "Don't burn your bridges"?
>
> Either way........
>
> --
> All the Best,
> Kelly
>
> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:ezButBZkEHA.3372@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Is this your reply when you don't know how to help?
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:o 31v6xYkEHA.3112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> You need to soften your edges. Hope all goes well for you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> All the Best,
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>
>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>> news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>>>
>>>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Does this apply:
>>>>>
>>>>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>>>> DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>>>
>>>>> If not:
>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> All the Best,
>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>>>
>>>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 6:57:49 PM

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There is nothing about DVD-RAM and "Windows was unable to complete the
format" in Google.
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> So, search for yourself!
>
> --
>
> Regards:
>
> Richard Urban
>
>
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:o 7%23%23e4YkEHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>> gives 382,000 results about HDDs, not DVD-RAM drives.
>>
>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>> news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>>
>>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Does this apply:
>>>>
>>>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>>> DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>>
>>>> If not:
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All the Best,
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>>
>>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>>
>>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 8:44:32 PM

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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
"Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
news:ey7pAzakEHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> Hello
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> This is a third party software problem.
> XP does not support DVD burning.
> --
> Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
> xpnews@bogusmichaelstevenstech.com
> http://michaelstevenstech.com
> For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.h...
>
>
>
Anonymous
September 3, 2004 11:03:12 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> There is nothing about DVD-RAM and "Windows was unable to complete the
> format" in Google.
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23nYaN4ZkEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>>So, search for yourself!
>>
>>--
>>
>>Regards:
>>
>>Richard Urban
>>
>>
>>
>>aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>>
>>
>>"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>news:o 7%23%23e4YkEHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>gives 382,000 results about HDDs, not DVD-RAM drives.
>>>
>>>"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>>>
>>>>"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>Does this apply:
>>>>>
>>>>>The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>>>>DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>>>
>>>>>If not:
>>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>All the Best,
>>>>>Kelly
>>>>>
>>>>>Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>>>2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>>>
>>>>>Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>>>news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello
>>>>>>An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>>>Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>>>format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Place the search criteria as a quote "dvd-ram" The results of my search
about dvd-ram is supported by the OEM, however
XP supports two types DVD-RAM drives Hitachi GF-2000 and Toshiba SD-W2002

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
September 4, 2004 2:06:06 AM

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I think that SP2 stopped my CD (I know the OP was DVD) writing software
from working. I uninstalled SP2 and it worked again. Reinstalled SP2 and
its broken again.
Third party packet writing software called DLA

"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
news:e9NI%23PbkEHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:ey7pAzakEHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>
>> This is a third party software problem.
>> XP does not support DVD burning.
>> --
>> Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
>> xpnews@bogusmichaelstevenstech.com
>> http://michaelstevenstech.com
>> For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.h...
>>
>>
>>
>
>
September 4, 2004 2:06:07 AM

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Pat wrote:

> I think that SP2 stopped my CD (I know the OP was DVD) writing software
> from working. I uninstalled SP2 and it worked again. Reinstalled SP2 and
> its broken again.
> Third party packet writing software called DLA
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:e9NI%23PbkEHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
>> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:ey7pAzakEHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a third party software problem.
>>> XP does not support DVD burning.
>>> --
>>> Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
>>> xpnews@bogusmichaelstevenstech.com
>>> http://michaelstevenstech.com
>>> For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
>>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.h...

You need to see if the vendor has an update patch for SP2. Nero needed
one.
September 4, 2004 7:38:31 AM

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http://www.goenglish.com/BurnYourBridges.asp

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm



"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
news:u2aLjJZkEHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I have not heard.
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23brqAIZkEHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>I know how to help and no, it isn't. However, have you ever heard of the
>>saying, "Don't burn your bridges"?
>>
>> Either way........
>>
>> --
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly
>>
>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>> news:ezButBZkEHA.3372@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Is this your reply when you don't know how to help?
>>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:o 31v6xYkEHA.3112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> You need to soften your edges. Hope all goes well for you.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All the Best,
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>>
>>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>>
>>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>> news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Does this apply:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>>>>> DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If not:
>>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> All the Best,
>>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 4, 2004 6:14:19 PM

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Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP problem
only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23YP%23gDckEHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
>
> Shenan wrote:
>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>> formatting
>> or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What application are you
>> using to format the DVD again?
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>
> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not actually
> saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it can read/write to
> them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining now - possibly it worked
> before?
>
> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows XP do
> you
> have?
> Did this work before?
> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and trying
> again?)
> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a Windows
> issue and not a hardware one.)
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
September 4, 2004 6:14:20 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:

> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
> problem only.
> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Here's the relevant bit out of all the stuff that you've written:

"other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 installed to use the
DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient"

You have to have the program installed on the other computers. This is
the way it works. You would need this whether you were running Win9x/ME
or Win2k, or WinXP. If you don't want to do this, then don't use that
program. End of story.

Malke
--
MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
Anonymous
September 4, 2004 6:14:20 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?

Shenan wrote:
> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
> application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
> now - possibly it worked before?
>
> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
> XP do you have?
> Did this work before?
> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
> trying again?)
> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
> problem only.
> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
>

Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is supported,
strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article above as
well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get the specific
hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product
Support Services phone numbers and information about support costs, visit
the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just days
before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should contact
Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the hotfix *if* the
versions of the listed files in the article do not match.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Anonymous
September 4, 2004 6:14:21 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?

Shenan wrote:
> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
> application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
> now - possibly it worked before?
>
> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
> XP do you have?
> Did this work before?
> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
> trying again?)
> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
> problem only.
> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.
>
> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
> XP do you have?
> (from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)
>
> If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
> supported, strictly from the information I can locate.
>
> Now reading the article you gave next:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>
> I see that
> "This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
> Pack 2."
>
> Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
> above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
> the specific hotfix they mention in the article?
>
> ------
> To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
> Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
> Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
> costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
> ------
>
> As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
> days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
> contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
> hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
> match.

My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not one
of the two drives listed as supported.

Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could provide
you?

Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your drive
which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive in
a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
drive natively?

The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio Easy
DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as well -
how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing any
of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats (-R/RW)
is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet. CDs
converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for DVDs,
so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.

In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
then contact Microsoft and request the patch.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Anonymous
September 4, 2004 6:18:43 PM

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Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP problem
only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23YP%23gDckEHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
>
> Shenan wrote:
>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>> formatting
>> or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What application are you
>> using to format the DVD again?
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>
> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not actually
> saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it can read/write to
> them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining now - possibly it worked
> before?
>
> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows XP do
> you
> have?
> Did this work before?
> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and trying
> again?)
> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a Windows
> issue and not a hardware one.)
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
September 4, 2004 6:28:34 PM

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Thanks, Rock. Useful info.

"Rock" <rock@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:e1uuG$hkEHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Pat wrote:
>
>> I think that SP2 stopped my CD (I know the OP was DVD) writing
>> software from working. I uninstalled SP2 and it worked again.
>> Reinstalled SP2 and its broken again.
>> Third party packet writing software called DLA
>>
>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>> news:e9NI%23PbkEHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
>>> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:ey7pAzakEHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM
>>>>> successfully?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a third party software problem.
>>>> XP does not support DVD burning.
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
>>>> xpnews@bogusmichaelstevenstech.com
>>>> http://michaelstevenstech.com
>>>> For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
>>>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.h...
>
> You need to see if the vendor has an update patch for SP2. Nero
> needed one.
>
September 5, 2004 1:58:26 PM

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Pat wrote:

> Thanks, Rock. Useful info.
>
> "Rock" <rock@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:e1uuG$hkEHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>> Pat wrote:
>>
>>> I think that SP2 stopped my CD (I know the OP was DVD) writing
>>> software from working. I uninstalled SP2 and it worked again.
>>> Reinstalled SP2 and its broken again.
>>> Third party packet writing software called DLA
>>>
>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>> news:e9NI%23PbkEHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
>>>> "Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:ey7pAzakEHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a third party software problem.
>>>>> XP does not support DVD burning.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
>>>>> xpnews@bogusmichaelstevenstech.com
>>>>> http://michaelstevenstech.com
>>>>> For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
>>>>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.h...
>>
>>
>> You need to see if the vendor has an update patch for SP2. Nero
>> needed one.

You're welcome.
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 2:13:04 PM

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LG replied that the error is Windows XP, not LG drive, problem only.
"Wallace Hill" <w.hill@awesomenet.net> wrote in message
news:41390640.2060905@awesomenet.net...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> There is nothing about DVD-RAM and "Windows was unable to complete the
>> format" in Google.
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23nYaN4ZkEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>So, search for yourself!
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Regards:
>>>
>>>Richard Urban
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>news:o 7%23%23e4YkEHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>>gives 382,000 results about HDDs, not DVD-RAM drives.
>>>>
>>>>"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>>news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Does this apply:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>>>>>DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If not:
>>>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>All the Best,
>>>>>>Kelly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>>>>2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>>>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>>>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello
>>>>>>>An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>>>>>Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>>>>>>format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> Place the search criteria as a quote "dvd-ram" The results of my search
> about dvd-ram is supported by the OEM, however
> XP supports two types DVD-RAM drives Hitachi GF-2000 and Toshiba SD-W2002
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283588
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 2:13:05 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> LG replied that the error is Windows XP, not LG drive, problem only.

Yes - it is called passing the blame to someone else.

Have they outright told you that it works in Windows XP withot any third
party software?

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 2:35:43 PM

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What do you mean?
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:o 31v6xYkEHA.3112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You need to soften your edges. Hope all goes well for you.
>
> --
> All the Best,
> Kelly
>
> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
> news:%235keRnYkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> No. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165 does not apply.
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%236lDfjYkEHA.3520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Does this apply:
>>>
>>> The formatting operation is unsuccessful when you try to format a
>>> DVD-RAM disc as FAT32 after you use InCD 4 :
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>
>>> If not:
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Windows+w...
>>>
>>> --
>>> All the Best,
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>> Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>> 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>
>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
>>> news:uhEZFcYkEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello
>>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the format
>>>> is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 3:08:22 PM

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I'm not saying Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than
Windows XP) support formatting and writing to a DVD RAM drive natively, but
the problem is of Windows XP software, not LG hardware.
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:eViHl4pkEHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> Shenan wrote:
>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
>> application are you using to format the DVD again?
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
>> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
>> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
>> now - possibly it worked before?
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> Did this work before?
>> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
>> trying again?)
>> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
>> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
>> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
>> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
>> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
>> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
>> problem only.
>> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> (from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)
>>
>> If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
>> supported, strictly from the information I can locate.
>>
>> Now reading the article you gave next:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>
>> I see that
>> "This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
>> Pack 2."
>>
>> Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
>> above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
>> the specific hotfix they mention in the article?
>>
>> ------
>> To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
>> Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
>> Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
>> costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
>> ------
>>
>> As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
>> days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
>> contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
>> hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
>> match.
>
> My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
> one
> of the two drives listed as supported.
>
> Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
> problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
> third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
> provide
> you?
>
> Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
> listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
> drive
> which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
> Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
> in
> a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
> are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
> drive natively?
>
> The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
> just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
> Easy
> DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
> well -
> how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
> Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
> DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
> any
> of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
> (-R/RW)
> is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
> CDs
> converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
> available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
> went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
> should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
> DVDs,
> so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.
>
> In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
> told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
> XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
> firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
> versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
> then contact Microsoft and request the patch.
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 3:18:04 PM

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Packet writing to a DVD+or-RW is just not suited for any valuable
information, because packet writing to a DVD+or-RW does not imply any
writing verification. DVD-RAM has several writing verification techniques.
DVD-RAM longevity is 100 times longer also. I lost much valuable information
by packet writing to DVD+or-RWs.
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:eViHl4pkEHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> Shenan wrote:
>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
>> application are you using to format the DVD again?
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
>> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
>> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
>> now - possibly it worked before?
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> Did this work before?
>> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
>> trying again?)
>> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
>> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
>> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
>> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
>> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
>> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
>> problem only.
>> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> (from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)
>>
>> If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
>> supported, strictly from the information I can locate.
>>
>> Now reading the article you gave next:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>
>> I see that
>> "This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
>> Pack 2."
>>
>> Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
>> above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
>> the specific hotfix they mention in the article?
>>
>> ------
>> To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
>> Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
>> Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
>> costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
>> ------
>>
>> As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
>> days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
>> contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
>> hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
>> match.
>
> My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
> one
> of the two drives listed as supported.
>
> Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
> problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
> third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
> provide
> you?
>
> Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
> listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
> drive
> which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
> Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
> in
> a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
> are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
> drive natively?
>
> The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
> just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
> Easy
> DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
> well -
> how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
> Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
> DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
> any
> of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
> (-R/RW)
> is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
> CDs
> converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
> available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
> went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
> should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
> DVDs,
> so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.
>
> In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
> told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
> XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
> firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
> versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
> then contact Microsoft and request the patch.
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 3:21:53 PM

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Packet writing to a DVD+or-RW just does not suit for any valuable
information, because packet writing to a DVD+or-RW does not imply any
writing verification. DVD-RAM has several writing verification techniques.
DVD-RAM longevity is 100 times longer also. I lost much valuable information
by packet writing to DVD+or-RWs.
"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ruDELETE> wrote in message
news:eCxWDC%23kEHA.3944@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'm not saying Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than
> Windows XP) support formatting and writing to a DVD RAM drive natively,
> but the problem is of Windows XP software, not LG hardware.
> "Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eViHl4pkEHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>>
>> Shenan wrote:
>>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>>> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
>>> application are you using to format the DVD again?
>>
>> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>>
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
>>> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
>>> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
>>> now - possibly it worked before?
>>>
>>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>>> XP do you have?
>>> Did this work before?
>>> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
>>> trying again?)
>>> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
>>> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
>>> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)
>>
>> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>>> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
>>> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
>>> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
>>> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
>>> problem only.
>>> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
>>
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.
>>>
>>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>>> XP do you have?
>>> (from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)
>>>
>>> If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
>>> supported, strictly from the information I can locate.
>>>
>>> Now reading the article you gave next:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>>
>>> I see that
>>> "This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
>>> Pack 2."
>>>
>>> Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
>>> above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
>>> the specific hotfix they mention in the article?
>>>
>>> ------
>>> To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
>>> Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
>>> Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
>>> costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
>>> ------
>>>
>>> As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
>>> days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
>>> contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
>>> hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
>>> match.
>>
>> My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
>> one
>> of the two drives listed as supported.
>>
>> Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
>> problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
>> third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
>> provide
>> you?
>>
>> Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
>> listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
>> drive
>> which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
>> Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
>> in
>> a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
>> are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
>> drive natively?
>>
>> The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that
>> with
>> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the
>> DVD-RAM
>> just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
>> Easy
>> DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
>> well -
>> how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM
>> drives?
>> Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
>> DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
>> any
>> of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
>> (-R/RW)
>> is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
>> CDs
>> converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
>> available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
>> went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
>> should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
>> DVDs,
>> so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.
>>
>> In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and
>> they
>> told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in
>> Windows
>> XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
>> firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
>> versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
>> then contact Microsoft and request the patch.
>>
>> --
>> <- Shenan ->
>> --
>> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
>> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
>> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
>> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 3:36:11 PM

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People just do not decide on a standard for a random DVD writing, because
most people just do not use DVDs for a random DVD writing yet. They have
only one choice for random DVD writing - DVD-RAM, DVD-or+RW do not suit at
all.
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:eViHl4pkEHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> Shenan wrote:
>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
>> application are you using to format the DVD again?
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
>> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
>> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
>> now - possibly it worked before?
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> Did this work before?
>> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
>> trying again?)
>> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
>> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
>> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
>> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
>> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
>> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
>> problem only.
>> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> (from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)
>>
>> If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
>> supported, strictly from the information I can locate.
>>
>> Now reading the article you gave next:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>
>> I see that
>> "This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
>> Pack 2."
>>
>> Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
>> above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
>> the specific hotfix they mention in the article?
>>
>> ------
>> To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
>> Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
>> Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
>> costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
>> ------
>>
>> As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
>> days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
>> contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
>> hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
>> match.
>
> My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
> one
> of the two drives listed as supported.
>
> Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
> problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
> third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
> provide
> you?
>
> Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
> listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
> drive
> which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
> Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
> in
> a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
> are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
> drive natively?
>
> The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
> just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
> Easy
> DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
> well -
> how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
> Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
> DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
> any
> of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
> (-R/RW)
> is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
> CDs
> converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
> available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
> went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
> should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
> DVDs,
> so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.
>
> In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
> told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
> XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
> firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
> versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
> then contact Microsoft and request the patch.
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 3:45:45 PM

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C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180, created
7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 19:59 and is different than in the
hotfix.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\classpnp.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180, created
7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 20:14 and is different than in the
hotfix. The file versions are newer.
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:emyCsvpkEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> Shenan wrote:
>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
>> application are you using to format the DVD again?
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
>> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
>> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
>> now - possibly it worked before?
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> Did this work before?
>> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
>> trying again?)
>> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
>> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
>> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
>> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
>> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
>> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
>> problem only.
>> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
>>
>
> Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.
>
> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
> XP do you have?
> (from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)
>
> If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is supported,
> strictly from the information I can locate.
>
> Now reading the article you gave next:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>
> I see that
> "This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2."
>
> Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article above as
> well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get the specific
> hotfix they mention in the article?
>
> ------
> To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
> Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product
> Support Services phone numbers and information about support costs, visit
> the following Microsoft Web site:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
> ------
>
> As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just days
> before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should contact
> Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the hotfix *if* the
> versions of the listed files in the article do not match.
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 3:45:46 PM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180,
> created 7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 19:59 and is different
> than in the hotfix.
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\classpnp.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180,
> created 7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 20:14 and is different
> than in the hotfix. The file versions are newer.

Dimitriy,

How about putting all your answers in a single response next time?

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Anonymous
September 7, 2004 4:26:46 PM

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Hello
The patch does not install, it writes that a newer update (SP2) is
installed. Microsoft support can not suggest anything yet.
"Shenan Stanley" <news_helper@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
>> Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
>> format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
>
> Shenan wrote:
>> I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
>> formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
>> application are you using to format the DVD again?
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
>> actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
>> can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
>> now - possibly it worked before?
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> Did this work before?
>> (possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
>> trying again?)
>> Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
>> (You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
>> Windows issue and not a hardware one.)
>
> Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
>> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
>> successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
>> installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
>> LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
>> problem only.
>> Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.
>>
>> Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
>> XP do you have?
>> (from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)
>>
>> If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
>> supported, strictly from the information I can locate.
>>
>> Now reading the article you gave next:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
>>
>> I see that
>> "This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
>> Pack 2."
>>
>> Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
>> above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
>> the specific hotfix they mention in the article?
>>
>> ------
>> To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
>> Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
>> Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
>> costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
>> ------
>>
>> As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
>> days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
>> contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
>> hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
>> match.
>
> My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
> one
> of the two drives listed as supported.
>
> Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
> problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
> third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
> provide
> you?
>
> Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
> listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
> drive
> which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
> Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
> in
> a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
> are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
> drive natively?
>
> The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
> Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
> just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
> Easy
> DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
> well -
> how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
> Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
> DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
> any
> of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
> (-R/RW)
> is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
> CDs
> converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
> available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
> went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
> should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
> DVDs,
> so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.
>
> In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
> told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
> XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
> firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
> versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
> then contact Microsoft and request the patch.
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
!