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Gert B. Frob wrote:
> "Clive Lumb" <clumb2@Gratuit_in_English.fr.invalid> wrote in message
> news:42b25818$0$15446$636a15ce@news.free.fr...
>> Gert B. Frob wrote:
>>> "Clive Lumb" <clumb2@Gratuit_in_English.fr.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:42b1fecb$0$17993$636a15ce@news.free.fr...
>>>> RedSheraton wrote:
>>>>> I'm running Windows XP Home OEM on a Pentium 3 800 system
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking of upgrading to an Athlon64 3000 Venice skt 939 and
>>>>> either A8N-E or A8N-SLI and a Radeon X300 or X600 PCI-E graphics
>>>>> card. I know to backup all my data on the HDD before switching
>>>>> hardware. My question is will I be OK with the current
>>>>> installation of Win XP Home OEM on the hard drive or is it best
>>>>> (or even absolutely necessary) when upgrading the mainboard, CPU
>>>>> and graphics card to do a complete reinstall of Windows XP?
>>>>
>>>> OK. So I've read the whole thread.. and nobody is totally correct.
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, on the principle/practicality of swapping a MB.
>>>> Yes, if you delete everything that mentions VIA (or INTEL or NVIDIA
>>>> etc.) from the hardware list - plus the graphics card and any
>>>> integrated network cards, plus the sound chip - WITHOUT REBOOTING
>>>> (and if you've remembered to use a PS/2 mouse not a USB one since
>>>> it stops working as soon as you delete the VIA(or other) USB
>>>> controller) - THEN replace any branded IDE driver by the Microsoft
>>>> standard IDE driver
>>>> - AND if you're not booting of some esoteric SATA or SCSI drive
>>>> - THEN stop the computer and swap the M/B
>>>> It should work 9 times out of 10.
>>>> The repair procedure is generally only necessary if you need to
>>>> change the HAL (hardware abstraction layer, not the computer from
>>>> 2001 A Space Odyssey), for example if going from mono to
>>>> multi-processor or vice-versa, or if ACPI was not activated on the
>>>> previous board.
>>>>
>>>> HOWEVER :
>>>> A format & re-install is generally better for the following reasons
>>>> - Cleans up spywares, virii etc.
>>>> - New clean set of DLLs
>>>> - And the one that Microsoft denies... Windows has timing issues if
>>>> you take too great a step in processor speed or if you change
>>>> processor technology (AMD/INTEL). Your system might run OK most of
>>>> the time, but you can have strange bugs, random reboots etc.
>>>>
>>>> In Red's case, going from a P3 to an Athlon 64, I would highly
>>>> reccommend starting from 0.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for listening
>>>> Clive
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? The system I'm using now has gone from a P-4 1.8 to 2.6 to
>>> 3.2 (all Northwood). No "timing" issues here. As a matter of fact,
>>> I went from 2100 ram to 3200 after updating to the 3.2 processor.
>>> What are you talking about?
>>
>> I'm talking about experience...
>> In Red's case he is proposing to go from a 800 MHz Intel platform to
>> a 3000+ 64 bit AMD - a much bigger speed step than yours, plus a
>> technology change from Intel to AMD, plus a chipset change from
>> probably Intel or Via to Nvidia.
>> I am not saying that it won't work, just saying that it may not work
>> terribly well.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Clive
>>
>
> What I mean is just what are the manifestations of these "timing"
> issues?
Ah OK. Some examples (I run a park of about 40 computers):
Moved Win2K from Intel (P2 450 or maybe P3 800) to Athlon 1700, all OK,
Moved to Athlon 2000 and the mouse started freezing (generally 1 second
after it starts moving), play any type of video/audio file and the sounds
stutters 5 seconds in. Move back to the 1700, all OK. The 2000 runs fine on
the same board with a fresh install.
Upgraded an Asus A7V333 with Duron 800 to an A7N8X with Barton 2800+. Finite
element software actually ran slower than on the original (suspect a memory
or disk issue since ANSYS uses all the RAM and then some). Repaired Win2K,
all was fine.
Moving from a P2 450 on an Abit BX board to an Athlon 1200 on some cheapo
m/b and the computer would bluescreen regularly. Reinstalled Win2k and te
problem went away.
That being said, the computer I am using to write this has had 3 boards and
4 processors over the last 2 1/2 years, beta bioses, beta Nforce drivers
etc. and it's still fast and stable. However all the m/b's were Asus and all
the processors AMD.
Cheers
Clive