NVIDIA nForce SATA hot-swap: feed up!

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Mobo = A8N-E

HD = a single SATA Maxtor 160 GB with three partitions (C:, D:, E



The icon to remove hardware safely is on the tray from windows session
start.

I'm always afraid my family will mix up the USB memory key with the base HD,
at the time of removing the key from the PC.



I've been looking on several FAQ, forums, Asus web, but I had not luck yet
about how to change the properties of the base HD, in order to delete it
from the removal hardware list.

I know that the icon can be removed from the tool bar, but then it would
disappear for all the hardware, including the USB memory key, that might
need it for safety.



Any hint about how to fix the dilemma?



Thanks and regards.

Juan Luis

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> It shouldn't be a problem. You can't stop a device that has open files on
> it, and the Windows boot drive always will.
>
> --
> Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
> To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
> Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/

Ok, It shouldn't be any problem.

But is there ANY way to hiden ONLY the basic HD's from the removible
devices?

Thanks.

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> It shouldn't be a problem. You can't stop a device that has open files on
> it, and the Windows boot drive always will.
>
> --
> Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
> To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
> Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/

Ok, It shouldn't be any problem.

But is there ANY way to hiden ONLY the basic HD's from the removible
devices?

Thanks.

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> If someone accidentally clicks the HD (and that takes two clicks,
> nothing a kid would likely do by accident), what will it really hurt?

Considering I've working a pair of HD's as Raid-0, on the worts case and due
to the shutdown I can lost all the data, but nothing else.

> The worst that could happen is that you'd have to restart the computer
> to get it detected again.
>
> I don't think there is a way to take it off the list. In prior
> operating systems, there was sometimes an option for making a drive
> "removable." I don't find that in XP, at least not while using the
> nVidia IDE drivers.

That's the point: this feature depends from nVidia drivers and not from Xp.
This possibility of disconnecting the basic HD's should be considered when
designing the drivers, on my opinion.

>
> Ron

Thanks anyway.

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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:18:43 +0200, "Zeneca" <Zeneca@euskaltel.es>
wrote:

>> If someone accidentally clicks the HD (and that takes two clicks,
>> nothing a kid would likely do by accident), what will it really hurt?
>
>Considering I've working a pair of HD's as Raid-0, on the worts case and due
>to the shutdown I can lost all the data, but nothing else.

Why do you think you'd lose all your data?

>> The worst that could happen is that you'd have to restart the computer
>> to get it detected again.
>>
>> I don't think there is a way to take it off the list. In prior
>> operating systems, there was sometimes an option for making a drive
>> "removable." I don't find that in XP, at least not while using the
>> nVidia IDE drivers.
>
>That's the point: this feature depends from nVidia drivers and not from Xp.
>This possibility of disconnecting the basic HD's should be considered when
>designing the drivers, on my opinion.
>
>>
>> Ron
>
>Thanks anyway.
>
>

Ron

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On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:15:39 +0200, "Zeneca" <Zeneca@euskaltel.es>
wrote:

>
>"milleron" <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu>
>> Why do you think you'd lose all your data
>
>On the case that the "logic disconnection" is produced, the OS would be
>always working.
>I'm not confident this connection cut, can't affect the Raid-0 consistency.

The OS would still "be working," but it could not possibly make any
further changes to the %WINDIR% or anything else on that disk. I'm
not an authority on the subject, but I can't see how data would be
lost. The tray applet makes sure that any cached writes are finished
before it allows you to "safely disconnect" the device.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'd like to get the hard drives off the
list, too. I'm just saying that I don't think their presence on the
list poses a grave danger. I think that, at worst, it could lead to
inconvenience.


Ron

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On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:43:14 GMT, Robert Hancock
<hancockr@nospamshaw.ca> wrote:

>milleron wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:15:39 +0200, "Zeneca" <Zeneca@euskaltel.es>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"milleron" <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu>
>>>
>>>>Why do you think you'd lose all your data
>>>
>>>On the case that the "logic disconnection" is produced, the OS would be
>>>always working.
>>>I'm not confident this connection cut, can't affect the Raid-0 consistency.
>>
>>
>> The OS would still "be working," but it could not possibly make any
>> further changes to the %WINDIR% or anything else on that disk. I'm
>> not an authority on the subject, but I can't see how data would be
>> lost. The tray applet makes sure that any cached writes are finished
>> before it allows you to "safely disconnect" the device.
>
>It also requires that no files be open on the drive. On the Windows boot
> volume this is impossible to achieve, so it will not allow you to stop
>the device. Try it and see..

Ha-ha. I truly suspected that it wouldn't let me disconnect a system
drive, but I did not -- and do not -- want to do the experiment. I'm
happy to take your word on it, Robert. Thanks.


Ron