Motherboard failure?

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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 05:25:25 GMT, "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote:

>The PS/2 devices are no longer
>working. No mouse or keyboard. Tried different devices tried powering on
>the computer multiple times and still nothing. Even tried a USB mouse and
>that was not functioning. Everything boots up fine, but no PS/2 devices or
>USB devices are working now. Has the motherboard failed? (Or is it
>failing?)

if your mouse and keyboard work in another computer it's highly likely the
motherboard has partially failed.

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"Travis King" wrote

> First of all, I didn't see a Bios Star NG. If there is one, I'm a
> knucklehead and can't find it...

Biostar / Microtech
No groups that I can find either.

http://www.biostar-usa.com/

> My great-aunt has a Bios Star motherboard. The PS/2 devices are no longer
> working. No mouse or keyboard. Tried different devices tried powering on
> the computer multiple times and still nothing. Even tried a USB mouse and
> that was not functioning. Everything boots up fine, but no PS/2 devices or
> USB devices are working now. Has the motherboard failed? (Or is it
> failing?)

Might have blown the fuse (if it has one) on the MB near the keyboard port.
Have either of the cables been pulled and reinserted with the power on? Bad!


Geez... you and your relatives...

> > > alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
> > > Sep 6 2004, 9:09 pm
> > > My great-aunt's daughter has a computer with an ECS motherboard.
> > > None of the devices in the PCI slots or the AGP slot work.

Have they been playing with their Tasers around the computer?

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"MasterBlaster" <Nobody's.Home@My.Place> wrote in message
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>
> "Travis King" wrote
>
>> First of all, I didn't see a Bios Star NG. If there is one, I'm a
>> knucklehead and can't find it...
>
> Biostar / Microtech
> No groups that I can find either.
>
> http://www.biostar-usa.com/
>
>> My great-aunt has a Bios Star motherboard. The PS/2 devices are no
>> longer
>> working. No mouse or keyboard. Tried different devices tried powering
>> on
>> the computer multiple times and still nothing. Even tried a USB mouse
>> and
>> that was not functioning. Everything boots up fine, but no PS/2 devices
>> or
>> USB devices are working now. Has the motherboard failed? (Or is it
>> failing?)
>
> Might have blown the fuse (if it has one) on the MB near the keyboard
> port.
> Have either of the cables been pulled and reinserted with the power on?
> Bad!
>
>
> Geez... you and your relatives...
>
>> > > alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
>> > > Sep 6 2004, 9:09 pm
>> > > My great-aunt's daughter has a computer with an ECS motherboard.
>> > > None of the devices in the PCI slots or the AGP slot work.
>
> Have they been playing with their Tasers around the computer?
>
I know for sure that the motherboard is getting older and is probably AT
LEAST 3 or 4 years old. It wouldn't surprise me if it's older because the
person who built her computer usually uses components he pulls from other
computers. Her computer is 3 or 4 years old, but I bet the motherboard is
older.

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"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
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> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
> news:ZztCe.182328$xm3.132941@attbi_s21...
>> "MasterBlaster" <Nobody's.Home@My.Place> wrote in message
>> news:6QqCe.95113$wr.17663@clgrps12...
>>>
>>> "Travis King" wrote
>>>
>>>> First of all, I didn't see a Bios Star NG. If there is one, I'm a
>>>> knucklehead and can't find it...
>>>
>>> Biostar / Microtech
>>> No groups that I can find either.
>>>
>>> http://www.biostar-usa.com/
>>>
>>>> My great-aunt has a Bios Star motherboard. The PS/2 devices are no
>>>> longer
>>>> working. No mouse or keyboard. Tried different devices tried powering
>>>> on
>>>> the computer multiple times and still nothing. Even tried a USB mouse
>>>> and
>>>> that was not functioning. Everything boots up fine, but no PS/2
>>>> devices or
>>>> USB devices are working now. Has the motherboard failed? (Or is it
>>>> failing?)
>>>
>>> Might have blown the fuse (if it has one) on the MB near the keyboard
>>> port.
>>> Have either of the cables been pulled and reinserted with the power on?
>>> Bad!
>>>
>>>
>>> Geez... you and your relatives...
>>>
>>>> > > alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
>>>> > > Sep 6 2004, 9:09 pm
>>>> > > My great-aunt's daughter has a computer with an ECS motherboard.
>>>> > > None of the devices in the PCI slots or the AGP slot work.
>>>
>>> Have they been playing with their Tasers around the computer?
>>>
>> I know for sure that the motherboard is getting older and is probably AT
>> LEAST 3 or 4 years old. It wouldn't surprise me if it's older because
>> the person who built her computer usually uses components he pulls from
>> other computers. Her computer is 3 or 4 years old, but I bet the
>> motherboard is older.
>>
> Guess what? I just got the computer to troubleshoot it and it wouldn't
> even turn on. What a convenience that the power supply was bad also. Got
> it swapped and powered up, but still no keyboard or mouse. I did get USB
> to work, just not PS/2. Also, the fan on the north bridge was not moving
> at all. Once in a while it would move just a little bit, but overall, it
> is froze. I'll try to see if we can oil it. How would I tell if the mobo
> has a fuse for the PS/2? Thanks for the help so far.
>
We're going to go ahead and replace the motherboard. I also noticed that 10
capacitors are beginning to or are bulging with some of them having yellow
crud on the top.

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"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
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> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
> news:vUuCe.159960$x96.108153@attbi_s72...
>> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:ZztCe.182328$xm3.132941@attbi_s21...
>>> "MasterBlaster" <Nobody's.Home@My.Place> wrote in message
>>> news:6QqCe.95113$wr.17663@clgrps12...
>>>>
>>>> "Travis King" wrote
>>>>
>>>>> First of all, I didn't see a Bios Star NG. If there is one, I'm a
>>>>> knucklehead and can't find it...
>>>>
>>>> Biostar / Microtech
>>>> No groups that I can find either.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.biostar-usa.com/
>>>>
>>>>> My great-aunt has a Bios Star motherboard. The PS/2 devices are no
>>>>> longer
>>>>> working. No mouse or keyboard. Tried different devices tried
>>>>> powering on
>>>>> the computer multiple times and still nothing. Even tried a USB mouse
>>>>> and
>>>>> that was not functioning. Everything boots up fine, but no PS/2
>>>>> devices or
>>>>> USB devices are working now. Has the motherboard failed? (Or is it
>>>>> failing?)
>>>>
>>>> Might have blown the fuse (if it has one) on the MB near the keyboard
>>>> port.
>>>> Have either of the cables been pulled and reinserted with the power on?
>>>> Bad!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geez... you and your relatives...
>>>>
>>>>> > > alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
>>>>> > > Sep 6 2004, 9:09 pm
>>>>> > > My great-aunt's daughter has a computer with an ECS motherboard.
>>>>> > > None of the devices in the PCI slots or the AGP slot work.
>>>>
>>>> Have they been playing with their Tasers around the computer?
>>>>
>>> I know for sure that the motherboard is getting older and is probably AT
>>> LEAST 3 or 4 years old. It wouldn't surprise me if it's older because
>>> the person who built her computer usually uses components he pulls from
>>> other computers. Her computer is 3 or 4 years old, but I bet the
>>> motherboard is older.
>>>
>> Guess what? I just got the computer to troubleshoot it and it wouldn't
>> even turn on. What a convenience that the power supply was bad also.
>> Got it swapped and powered up, but still no keyboard or mouse. I did get
>> USB to work, just not PS/2. Also, the fan on the north bridge was not
>> moving at all. Once in a while it would move just a little bit, but
>> overall, it is froze. I'll try to see if we can oil it. How would I
>> tell if the mobo has a fuse for the PS/2? Thanks for the help so far.
>>
> We're going to go ahead and replace the motherboard. I also noticed that
> 10 capacitors are beginning to or are bulging with some of them having
> yellow crud on the top.

That would be your problem right there. You might save the old PSU
though...bad capacitors can give the illusion that the PSU is bad, or the
RAM is bad, or a virus has infected the machine, etc.

Instaed of replacing the motherboard, you might sent it to Gary at:

http://www.motherboardrepair.com/

He does excellent work when it comes to resurrecting motherboards.

--
Robert J. Salvi, Ambiance Acoustics
http://www.ambianceacoustics.com
San Diego, CA USA
(858) 485-7514

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"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
> news:nospam-1707051250080001@192.168.1.178...
>> In article <vUuCe.159960$x96.108153@attbi_s72>, "Travis King"
>> <Anonymous@none.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ZztCe.182328$xm3.132941@attbi_s21...
>>> > "MasterBlaster" <Nobody's.Home@My.Place> wrote in message
>>> > news:6QqCe.95113$wr.17663@clgrps12...
>>> >>
>>> >> "Travis King" wrote
>>> >>
>>> >>> First of all, I didn't see a Bios Star NG. If there is one, I'm a
>>> >>> knucklehead and can't find it...
>>> >>
>>> >> Biostar / Microtech
>>> >> No groups that I can find either.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.biostar-usa.com/
>>> >>
>>> >>> My great-aunt has a Bios Star motherboard. The PS/2 devices are no
>>> >>> longer
>>> >>> working. No mouse or keyboard. Tried different devices tried
>>> >>> powering
>>> >>> on
>>> >>> the computer multiple times and still nothing. Even tried a USB
>>> >>> mouse
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> that was not functioning. Everything boots up fine, but no PS/2
>>> >>> devices
>>> >>> or
>>> >>> USB devices are working now. Has the motherboard failed? (Or is it
>>> >>> failing?)
>>> >>
>>> >> Might have blown the fuse (if it has one) on the MB near the keyboard
>>> >> port.
>>> >> Have either of the cables been pulled and reinserted with the power
>>> >> on?
>>> >> Bad!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Geez... you and your relatives...
>>> >>
>>> >>> > > alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
>>> >>> > > Sep 6 2004, 9:09 pm
>>> >>> > > My great-aunt's daughter has a computer with an ECS motherboard.
>>> >>> > > None of the devices in the PCI slots or the AGP slot work.
>>> >>
>>> >> Have they been playing with their Tasers around the computer?
>>> >>
>>> > I know for sure that the motherboard is getting older and is probably
>>> > AT
>>> > LEAST 3 or 4 years old. It wouldn't surprise me if it's older because
>>> > the
>>> > person who built her computer usually uses components he pulls from
>>> > other
>>> > computers. Her computer is 3 or 4 years old, but I bet the
>>> > motherboard is
>>> > older.
>>> >
>>> Guess what? I just got the computer to troubleshoot it and it wouldn't
>>> even
>>> turn on. What a convenience that the power supply was bad also. Got it
>>> swapped and powered up, but still no keyboard or mouse. I did get USB
>>> to
>>> work, just not PS/2. Also, the fan on the north bridge was not moving
>>> at
>>> all. Once in a while it would move just a little bit, but overall, it
>>> is
>>> froze. I'll try to see if we can oil it. How would I tell if the mobo
>>> has
>>> a fuse for the PS/2? Thanks for the help so far.
>>
>> Look near the PS/2 stack. If there is a fuse, it should be within a
>> couple of inches of the stack, and will likely ne a bigger component
>> than anything else in the area. On Asus boards, they use Polyfuses,
>> which open when they get hot, and close when they cool off. A
>> permanent fuse, that doesn't normally need replacing. It could be
>> the ECS uses a one-shot fuse, in which case, checking with an ohmmeter
>> will tell you if it is open or not. Also, on an Asus, there might be
>> a three pin header with a jumper plug to select +5V or +5VSB, and
>> if the jumper is missing or making bad contact, that might be the
>> problem.
>>
>> PS/2 is not intended for hot plugging. If the computer owner regularly
>> unplugs and replugs keyboard and mouse, eventually the interface
>> will fail and that'll be it. The Super I/O chip is one device that
>> can terminate PS/2 devices, and I do remember at least one chipset
>> where the Super I/O functions were actually inside the Southbridge.
>> To remove and replace those chips is best done at the factory.
>>
>> Paul
> I made the mistake of doing a repair install of XP instead of doing a
> format. Now the computer takes 30 minutes to startup and five minutes
> just to get into the start menu. Safe mode performs much better, but it
> still crashes with certain things. This backup procedure is taking
> forever. Couldn't backup the files before hand because the motherboard was
> so bad that I couldn't control the computer well enough to get anywhere.
> I will reformat as soon as I can get everything backed up if I ever do as
> long as it is taking. It's 95 with humidity and my room only has fans -
> no A/C. That really fries my patience... The good news is even in the
> heat the Sempron 2800+ (Socket A) is running at 57 C. We went with the
> Sempron because she wanted a cheap fix. She said a year from now she
> wants a whole new computer anyway. She also wants to keep this one as a
> spare.
>
I should add even though I'm not a big fan of the Semprons. I prefer the
Athlon XP over the Sempron. The Athlon XP to me seems more powerful and
handles multitasking better. I've noticed that a Sempron 2400+ barely
outperforms my Athlon XP 2400+ in a stand alone application, but anything
after that, my Athlon XP 2400+ wins.