Barton Vs Sempron

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

I take it that the Sempron is the poor cousin and that the barton is the
more heavyweight of the 2..

Anyone care to comment ?

Thanks


DB :)
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  1. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    DB wrote:

    " I take it that the Sempron is the poor cousin and that the barton is
    the more heavyweight of the 2.. Anyone care to comment ? "


    The socket A Sempron 3000+ *is* a Barton.

    Perhaps you'd like to compare the Sempron to other AMD processors.
    http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html
  2. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    I think Dave meant to say Sempron and Athlon XP.

    "Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote in message
    news:dd3p9m$6vg$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
    > DB wrote:
    >
    > " I take it that the Sempron is the poor cousin and that the barton is
    > the more heavyweight of the 2.. Anyone care to comment ? "
    >
    >
    > The socket A Sempron 3000+ *is* a Barton.
    >
    > Perhaps you'd like to compare the Sempron to other AMD processors.
    > http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html
    >
    >
  3. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    er.......yes.......my lack of knowledge shows thru again...

    i'm still learning,lol

    DB :)


    "RonK" <imhere@home.now> wrote in message
    news:n8eJe.8429$z91.1086304@news20.bellglobal.com...
    >I think Dave meant to say Sempron and Athlon XP.
    >
    > "Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com> wrote in message
    > news:dd3p9m$6vg$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
    >> DB wrote:
    >>
    >> " I take it that the Sempron is the poor cousin and that the barton is
    >> the more heavyweight of the 2.. Anyone care to comment ? "
    >>
    >>
    >> The socket A Sempron 3000+ *is* a Barton.
    >>
    >> Perhaps you'd like to compare the Sempron to other AMD processors.
    >> http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  4. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 02:48:37 +0100, Cuzman <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com>
    wrote:

    >DB wrote:
    >
    >" I take it that the Sempron is the poor cousin and that the barton is
    >the more heavyweight of the 2.. Anyone care to comment ? "
    >
    >
    >The socket A Sempron 3000+ *is* a Barton.
    I don't think so it a socket 745 or something... Semptron with some 64
    bits instructions but not as much like the xp64 does.
    >
    >Perhaps you'd like to compare the Sempron to other AMD processors.
    >http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html
    What was the n/o of he's CPU?
    This was taken from the astra32 program.


    here's what looks like a Barton xp2600 And all of it's instructions.

    Would you mind sending the info of the semptron and somebody else the
    info of the xp64 939 Venice core.

    CPU Info
    Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2600+
    Coprocessor: Internal
    CPU Clock: 1921.1 MHz
    Level 1 Cache: 64+64 kB (data+instr.)
    Level 2 Cache: 512 kB
    System Bus Clock: 334.1 MHz
    FSB Clock: 167.1 MHz DDR
    Multiplier: 11.5
    Vendor: AuthenticAMD
    Processor Name: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
    Processor Type: Original OEM Processor
    CPUID: Family: 6, Model: 10, Stepping: 0
    CPU Signature: 000007A0h
    Brand ID: Not Supported
    Logical CPU Count: HTT Not Supported
    Max CPUID Level: 1
    Max ExtCPUID Level: 80000008h
    Code Name: Barton, Model 10 (0.13mk)
    Core Stepping: A2
    MSR C0010015h: 00000000h:01011008h
    MSR C001001Bh: 00000000h:20031223h
    Instruction Set
    Floating-Point Unit On-Chip: [X]
    IA MMX Technology: [X]
    Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE): [X]
    Streaming SIMD Ext. - 2 (SSE-2): [ ]
    Streaming SIMD Ext. - 3 (SSE-3): [ ]
    Intel Extended Memory 64 Tech.: [ ]
    Intel Architecture - 64 (IA-64): [ ]
    AMD MMX Instruction Extensions: [X]
    AMD 3DNow! Instructions: [X]
    AMD 3DNow! Extensions: [X]
    AMD x86-64 Long Mode: [ ]
    Cyrix Extended MMX: [ ]
    CMPXCHG8 Instruction Supported: [X]
    CMPXCHG16 Instruction Supported: [ ]
    Fast System Call: [X]
    Conditional Move Instruction: [X]
    CLFLUSH Insruction Supported: [ ]
    Fast Save and Restore: [X]
    Monitor/MWAIT: [ ]
    SYSCALL/SYSRET Instructions: [X]
    LAHF/SAHF Instructions: [ ]
    AMD Fast Save and Restore: [ ]
    Processor Features
    Virtual Mode Extension: [X]
    Debugging Extension: [X]
    Page Size Extension: [X]
    Time Stamp Counter: [X]
    Model Specific Registers: [X]
    Physical Address Extension: [X]
    Machine Check Exception: [X]
    On-chip APIC Hardware Supported: [X]
    Memory Type Range Registers: [X]
    Page Global Enable: [X]
    Machine Check Architecture: [X]
    Page Attribute Table: [X]
    36-bit Page Size Extension: [X]
    Processor Serial Number: [ ]
    Debug Store: [ ]
    Self-Snoop: [ ]
    Hyper-Threading Technology: [ ]
    Pending Break Enable: [ ]
    CPL-Qualified Debug Stor: [ ]
    Context ID: [ ]
    Send Task Priority Messages: [ ]
    AMD No-execute Page Protection: [ ]
    AMD Model-Specific Registers: [X]
    AMD Multiprocessing Capable: [ ]
    Power Management
    ACPI Supported: [ ]
    Thermal Monitor Supported: [ ]
    Thermal Monitor 2: [ ]
    Enhanced SpeedStep Technology: [ ]
    AMD Temperature Sensor: [X]
    AMD Frequency ID Control: [ ]
    AMD Voltage ID Control: [ ]
    AMD Thermal Trip: [ ]
    AMD Thermal Monitoring: [ ]
    AMD Software Thermal Control: [ ]


    Thank you
  5. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....

    Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....

    athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000


    thanks for any info

    Dave :)


    "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    news:j48cf1h0i024uqnt140su1ivs5q1vjdvbe@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 02:48:37 +0100, Cuzman <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>DB wrote:
    >>
    >>" I take it that the Sempron is the poor cousin and that the barton is
    >>the more heavyweight of the 2.. Anyone care to comment ? "
    >>
    >>
    >>The socket A Sempron 3000+ *is* a Barton.
    > I don't think so it a socket 745 or something... Semptron with some 64
    > bits instructions but not as much like the xp64 does.
    >>
    >>Perhaps you'd like to compare the Sempron to other AMD processors.
    >>http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html
    > What was the n/o of he's CPU?
    > This was taken from the astra32 program.
    >
    >
    > here's what looks like a Barton xp2600 And all of it's instructions.
    >
    > Would you mind sending the info of the semptron and somebody else the
    > info of the xp64 939 Venice core.
    >
    > CPU Info
    > Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2600+
    > Coprocessor: Internal
    > CPU Clock: 1921.1 MHz
    > Level 1 Cache: 64+64 kB (data+instr.)
    > Level 2 Cache: 512 kB
    > System Bus Clock: 334.1 MHz
    > FSB Clock: 167.1 MHz DDR
    > Multiplier: 11.5
    > Vendor: AuthenticAMD
    > Processor Name: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
    > Processor Type: Original OEM Processor
    > CPUID: Family: 6, Model: 10, Stepping: 0
    > CPU Signature: 000007A0h
    > Brand ID: Not Supported
    > Logical CPU Count: HTT Not Supported
    > Max CPUID Level: 1
    > Max ExtCPUID Level: 80000008h
    > Code Name: Barton, Model 10 (0.13mk)
    > Core Stepping: A2
    > MSR C0010015h: 00000000h:01011008h
    > MSR C001001Bh: 00000000h:20031223h
    > Instruction Set
    > Floating-Point Unit On-Chip: [X]
    > IA MMX Technology: [X]
    > Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE): [X]
    > Streaming SIMD Ext. - 2 (SSE-2): [ ]
    > Streaming SIMD Ext. - 3 (SSE-3): [ ]
    > Intel Extended Memory 64 Tech.: [ ]
    > Intel Architecture - 64 (IA-64): [ ]
    > AMD MMX Instruction Extensions: [X]
    > AMD 3DNow! Instructions: [X]
    > AMD 3DNow! Extensions: [X]
    > AMD x86-64 Long Mode: [ ]
    > Cyrix Extended MMX: [ ]
    > CMPXCHG8 Instruction Supported: [X]
    > CMPXCHG16 Instruction Supported: [ ]
    > Fast System Call: [X]
    > Conditional Move Instruction: [X]
    > CLFLUSH Insruction Supported: [ ]
    > Fast Save and Restore: [X]
    > Monitor/MWAIT: [ ]
    > SYSCALL/SYSRET Instructions: [X]
    > LAHF/SAHF Instructions: [ ]
    > AMD Fast Save and Restore: [ ]
    > Processor Features
    > Virtual Mode Extension: [X]
    > Debugging Extension: [X]
    > Page Size Extension: [X]
    > Time Stamp Counter: [X]
    > Model Specific Registers: [X]
    > Physical Address Extension: [X]
    > Machine Check Exception: [X]
    > On-chip APIC Hardware Supported: [X]
    > Memory Type Range Registers: [X]
    > Page Global Enable: [X]
    > Machine Check Architecture: [X]
    > Page Attribute Table: [X]
    > 36-bit Page Size Extension: [X]
    > Processor Serial Number: [ ]
    > Debug Store: [ ]
    > Self-Snoop: [ ]
    > Hyper-Threading Technology: [ ]
    > Pending Break Enable: [ ]
    > CPL-Qualified Debug Stor: [ ]
    > Context ID: [ ]
    > Send Task Priority Messages: [ ]
    > AMD No-execute Page Protection: [ ]
    > AMD Model-Specific Registers: [X]
    > AMD Multiprocessing Capable: [ ]
    > Power Management
    > ACPI Supported: [ ]
    > Thermal Monitor Supported: [ ]
    > Thermal Monitor 2: [ ]
    > Enhanced SpeedStep Technology: [ ]
    > AMD Temperature Sensor: [X]
    > AMD Frequency ID Control: [ ]
    > AMD Voltage ID Control: [ ]
    > AMD Thermal Trip: [ ]
    > AMD Thermal Monitoring: [ ]
    > AMD Software Thermal Control: [ ]
    >
    >
    > Thank you
  6. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    >Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >
    >Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >
    >athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >
    >
    >thanks for any info
    >
    >Dave :)
    >
    I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the semptron
    is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200 and
    133/266 of the fastest.

    Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for the
    socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a other
    kind of board.

    So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp 400fsb
    or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it can
    last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
  7. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    thanks for the info DDC...

    Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....

    Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want the
    rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,

    Thanks

    Dave :)


    "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    news:68dpf1h8qn67f025uae76cialgv3aev9is@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    > <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >
    >>Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >>
    >>Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >>
    >>athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >>
    >>
    >>thanks for any info
    >>
    >>Dave :)
    >>
    > I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the semptron
    > is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200 and
    > 133/266 of the fastest.
    >
    > Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for the
    > socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a other
    > kind of board.
    >
    > So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp 400fsb
    > or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it can
    > last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
    >
    >
    >
  8. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    I'm happy with a Barton 3000+ OEM, with 400Mhz FSB. There might be a Barton
    3200+ 400Mhz, but rare!!


    "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:XH3Le.87567$G8.75547@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    > thanks for the info DDC...
    >
    > Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >
    > Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want the
    > rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Dave :)
    >
    >
    > "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    > news:68dpf1h8qn67f025uae76cialgv3aev9is@4ax.com...
    >> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    >> <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >>>
    >>>Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >>>
    >>>athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>thanks for any info
    >>>
    >>>Dave :)
    >>>
    >> I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the semptron
    >> is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200 and
    >> 133/266 of the fastest.
    >>
    >> Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for the
    >> socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a other
    >> kind of board.
    >>
    >> So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp 400fsb
    >> or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it can
    >> last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  9. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    DB wrote:
    > thanks for the info DDC...
    >
    > Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >
    > Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want
    > the rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Dave :)
    >

    Hi!


    Wise decision.
    So far I seen this 64bit ... lame, slow, complicated.

    The Barton is IMO the fastest 32bit Athlon XP. Sempron is a cheap
    outlet of many cheap outlets before. Barton is a small highlight.
    I can remember the area were the AMD are produced as a high quality
    outlet for technique (Zeiss, Praktica, Görlitz and more...)

    I am still using a camera with hardware of that area. It´s made 1953.
    Let´s see if the computer endure as long :-)

    A A7V8 with a Barton, Thunderbird, Palomino, Thoroughbred or Duron is a
    decent machine.


    Best Regards,

    Daniel Mandic

    P.S.: The picture quality of this 1953 cam is really modern compared to
    new digital cams.
  10. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Norm...the 300 with a 400 Mhz bus, it will work on this mobo ? yes..

    Dave :)


    "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message news:aIbLe.340$Ji.266@lakeread02...
    > I'm happy with a Barton 3000+ OEM, with 400Mhz FSB. There might be a
    > Barton 3200+ 400Mhz, but rare!!
    >
    >
    >
    > "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:XH3Le.87567$G8.75547@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >> thanks for the info DDC...
    >>
    >> Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >>
    >> Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want the
    >> rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> Dave :)
    >>
    >>
    >> "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    >> news:68dpf1h8qn67f025uae76cialgv3aev9is@4ax.com...
    >>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    >>> <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >>>>
    >>>>Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >>>>
    >>>>athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>thanks for any info
    >>>>
    >>>>Dave :)
    >>>>
    >>> I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the semptron
    >>> is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200 and
    >>> 133/266 of the fastest.
    >>>
    >>> Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for the
    >>> socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a other
    >>> kind of board.
    >>>
    >>> So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp 400fsb
    >>> or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it can
    >>> last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  11. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Sorry...the best CPU is the barton 3000+ 333Mhx for that motherboard (my mb
    is A7N8X-E Deluxe which has the 400 Mhz FSB).

    http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

    Thats ok!! Get some good memory and good cooling and overclock the bitch!!
    Push it to the max!! You going to have to upgrade some day anyway!! Just buy
    parts that can be carried over to your new system.

    "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ZiMLe.88856$G8.54440@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    > Norm...the 300 with a 400 Mhz bus, it will work on this mobo ? yes..
    >
    > Dave :)
    >
    >
    > "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    > news:aIbLe.340$Ji.266@lakeread02...
    >> I'm happy with a Barton 3000+ OEM, with 400Mhz FSB. There might be a
    >> Barton 3200+ 400Mhz, but rare!!
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:XH3Le.87567$G8.75547@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >>> thanks for the info DDC...
    >>>
    >>> Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >>>
    >>> Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want the
    >>> rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >>>
    >>> Thanks
    >>>
    >>> Dave :)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    >>> news:68dpf1h8qn67f025uae76cialgv3aev9is@4ax.com...
    >>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    >>>> <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >>>>>
    >>>>>athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>thanks for any info
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Dave :)
    >>>>>
    >>>> I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the semptron
    >>>> is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200 and
    >>>> 133/266 of the fastest.
    >>>>
    >>>> Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for the
    >>>> socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a other
    >>>> kind of board.
    >>>>
    >>>> So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp 400fsb
    >>>> or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it can
    >>>> last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  12. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    On that link...just use the pull down tabs to select different
    options....good tool for future builds too!!

    "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    news:t6QLe.4266$Ji.3504@lakeread02...
    > Sorry...the best CPU is the barton 3000+ 333Mhx for that motherboard (my
    > mb is A7N8X-E Deluxe which has the 400 Mhz FSB).
    >
    > http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
    >
    > Thats ok!! Get some good memory and good cooling and overclock the bitch!!
    > Push it to the max!! You going to have to upgrade some day anyway!! Just
    > buy parts that can be carried over to your new system.
    >
    > "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:ZiMLe.88856$G8.54440@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >> Norm...the 300 with a 400 Mhz bus, it will work on this mobo ? yes..
    >>
    >> Dave :)
    >>
    >>
    >> "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    >> news:aIbLe.340$Ji.266@lakeread02...
    >>> I'm happy with a Barton 3000+ OEM, with 400Mhz FSB. There might be a
    >>> Barton 3200+ 400Mhz, but rare!!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>> news:XH3Le.87567$G8.75547@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >>>> thanks for the info DDC...
    >>>>
    >>>> Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >>>>
    >>>> Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want the
    >>>> rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks
    >>>>
    >>>> Dave :)
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    >>>> news:68dpf1h8qn67f025uae76cialgv3aev9is@4ax.com...
    >>>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    >>>>> <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>thanks for any info
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Dave :)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the semptron
    >>>>> is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200 and
    >>>>> 133/266 of the fastest.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for the
    >>>>> socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a other
    >>>>> kind of board.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp 400fsb
    >>>>> or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it can
    >>>>> last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  13. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Thanks Dan.......

    It looks like a Barton 3000 coming my way,

    Practica eh, my first camera and it took some great photos.....the word
    digital wasnt invented then...............

    Cheers

    Dave :)


    "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@ping.at> wrote in message
    news:42fdd1e0$0$27172$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at...
    > DB wrote:
    >> thanks for the info DDC...
    >>
    >> Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >>
    >> Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want
    >> the rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> Dave :)
    >>
    >
    > Hi!
    >
    >
    > Wise decision.
    > So far I seen this 64bit ... lame, slow, complicated.
    >
    > The Barton is IMO the fastest 32bit Athlon XP. Sempron is a cheap
    > outlet of many cheap outlets before. Barton is a small highlight.
    > I can remember the area were the AMD are produced as a high quality
    > outlet for technique (Zeiss, Praktica, Görlitz and more...)
    >
    > I am still using a camera with hardware of that area. It´s made 1953.
    > Let´s see if the computer endure as long :-)
    >
    > A A7V8 with a Barton, Thunderbird, Palomino, Thoroughbred or Duron is a
    > decent machine.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Best Regards,
    >
    > Daniel Mandic
    >
    > P.S.: The picture quality of this 1953 cam is really modern compared to
    > new digital cams.
  14. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Thanks Norm...Im pretty much sorted as to what to get......by this time next
    week.........i should have gone from XP 1600 + with 256 meg ram upto XP 3000
    + and 1 gig memory...so i should see a little difference.

    Cheers

    Dave :)

    "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    news:LaQLe.4267$Ji.3686@lakeread02...
    > On that link...just use the pull down tabs to select different
    > options....good tool for future builds too!!
    >
    > "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    > news:t6QLe.4266$Ji.3504@lakeread02...
    >> Sorry...the best CPU is the barton 3000+ 333Mhx for that motherboard (my
    >> mb is A7N8X-E Deluxe which has the 400 Mhz FSB).
    >>
    >> http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
    >>
    >> Thats ok!! Get some good memory and good cooling and overclock the
    >> bitch!! Push it to the max!! You going to have to upgrade some day
    >> anyway!! Just buy parts that can be carried over to your new system.
    >>
    >> "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:ZiMLe.88856$G8.54440@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >>> Norm...the 300 with a 400 Mhz bus, it will work on this mobo ? yes..
    >>>
    >>> Dave :)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:aIbLe.340$Ji.266@lakeread02...
    >>>> I'm happy with a Barton 3000+ OEM, with 400Mhz FSB. There might be a
    >>>> Barton 3200+ 400Mhz, but rare!!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>>> news:XH3Le.87567$G8.75547@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >>>>> thanks for the info DDC...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want the
    >>>>> rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thanks
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Dave :)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:68dpf1h8qn67f025uae76cialgv3aev9is@4ax.com...
    >>>>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    >>>>>> <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>thanks for any info
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Dave :)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the semptron
    >>>>>> is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200 and
    >>>>>> 133/266 of the fastest.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a
    >>>>>> other
    >>>>>> kind of board.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp 400fsb
    >>>>>> or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it can
    >>>>>> last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  15. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    Keep that XP 1600+ may be a unlocked CPU. Possibile a good second computer.

    Good Luck
    Norm

    "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ENQLe.89099$G8.77658@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    > Thanks Norm...Im pretty much sorted as to what to get......by this time
    > next week.........i should have gone from XP 1600 + with 256 meg ram upto
    > XP 3000 + and 1 gig memory...so i should see a little difference.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Dave :)
    >
    > "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    > news:LaQLe.4267$Ji.3686@lakeread02...
    >> On that link...just use the pull down tabs to select different
    >> options....good tool for future builds too!!
    >>
    >> "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    >> news:t6QLe.4266$Ji.3504@lakeread02...
    >>> Sorry...the best CPU is the barton 3000+ 333Mhx for that motherboard (my
    >>> mb is A7N8X-E Deluxe which has the 400 Mhz FSB).
    >>>
    >>> http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
    >>>
    >>> Thats ok!! Get some good memory and good cooling and overclock the
    >>> bitch!! Push it to the max!! You going to have to upgrade some day
    >>> anyway!! Just buy parts that can be carried over to your new system.
    >>>
    >>> "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>> news:ZiMLe.88856$G8.54440@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >>>> Norm...the 300 with a 400 Mhz bus, it will work on this mobo ? yes..
    >>>>
    >>>> Dave :)
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Norm" <Here@here.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:aIbLe.340$Ji.266@lakeread02...
    >>>>> I'm happy with a Barton 3000+ OEM, with 400Mhz FSB. There might be a
    >>>>> Barton 3200+ 400Mhz, but rare!!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "DB" <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:XH3Le.87567$G8.75547@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
    >>>>>> thanks for the info DDC...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Im using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo....
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Im looking for the fastest that this will take, I don't realy want
    >>>>>> the rather expensive jump to 64Bit yet,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Dave :)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "DDC" <whatsnow@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:68dpf1h8qn67f025uae76cialgv3aev9is@4ax.com...
    >>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "DB"
    >>>>>>> <db002a3121(NOSPAM)@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Thank you for the info....sorry for taking a while to reply....
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Im a bit confused......which is faster/better....
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>athlon xp 3000............athlon sempron 3000
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>thanks for any info
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Dave :)
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I don't know witch one is faster but i've been told that the
    >>>>>>> semptron
    >>>>>>> is the replacement of the duron cpu witch it's fsb run at 100/200
    >>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>> 133/266 of the fastest.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Also it depend on what motherboard you want this cpu the xp is for
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> socket A and the semptron 2800 and + is for the socket 743 <-- a
    >>>>>>> other
    >>>>>>> kind of board.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> So if you don't change your motherboard i would get the 3200xp
    >>>>>>> 400fsb
    >>>>>>> or a 3200xp 333fsb. an xp3200 400fsb cost around 220$ can. And it
    >>>>>>> can
    >>>>>>> last for a long time if you don't plan to get windows xp 64bits.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  16. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    DB wrote:

    > Thanks Dan.......
    >
    > It looks like a Barton 3000 coming my way,
    >

    Really a fast beast. That extended second level cache makes it
    interesting for NT based systems.
    256K cache is more for the virtually 32bit PC "IBM and other comapnies"
    OS.
    Sure, the first level Cache in the Athon series is impressing!!

    It would interest me which latency the 2nd level cache of the Barton is.
    Programs like CPU-Z can read that out.

    > Practica eh, my first camera and it took some great photos.....the
    > word digital wasnt invented then...............
    >

    You must be joking. It was about some Hz. Pipelining and more. Open
    close...
    Sure, not in mathematic but physically as well as today.

    I mean the output stays the same...

    Not to mention the quality of big format cams with many inches of
    negative film.
    Open Close stays digital, but the Stream......
    Never possible with digital. They would have to be infinitely fast, and
    I mean really infinitely. Than it would maybe possible to reach analog
    quality.

    > Cheers
    >
    > Dave :)


    I wish you great fun and kind work with your expected Barton Core AMD
    Athlon XP Processor.


    Best Regards,

    Daniel Mandic


    P.S.: dont forget to cool the beast.
  17. Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

    On 15 Aug 2005 14:44:44 GMT, "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@ping.at>
    wrote:

    >DB wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks Dan.......
    >>
    >> It looks like a Barton 3000 coming my way,
    >>
    >
    >Really a fast beast. That extended second level cache makes it
    >interesting for NT based systems.
    >256K cache is more for the virtually 32bit PC "IBM and other comapnies"
    >OS.
    >Sure, the first level Cache in the Athon series is impressing!!
    >
    >It would interest me which latency the 2nd level cache of the Barton is.
    >Programs like CPU-Z can read that out.

    here it is:
    L2
    location: on chip ratio full
    size 512kbytes frequency: xp2600 is 1916
    associativity 16-way bus width 64bits
    line size 64bytes prefetechlogic yes


    >> Practica eh, my first camera and it took some great photos.....the
    >> word digital wasnt invented then...............
    >>
    >
    >You must be joking. It was about some Hz. Pipelining and more. Open
    >close...
    >Sure, not in mathematic but physically as well as today.
    >
    >I mean the output stays the same...
    >
    >Not to mention the quality of big format cams with many inches of
    >negative film.
    >Open Close stays digital, but the Stream......
    >Never possible with digital. They would have to be infinitely fast, and
    >I mean really infinitely. Than it would maybe possible to reach analog
    >quality.
    >
    >> Cheers
    >>
    >> Dave :)
    >
    >
    >I wish you great fun and kind work with your expected Barton Core AMD
    >Athlon XP Processor.
    >
    >
    >
    >Best Regards,
    >
    >Daniel Mandic
    >
    >
    >P.S.: dont forget to cool the beast.
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