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Here are my voltage readings with an Antec Neopower 480.

+3,3Volts reads as 3,25
+5 Volts reads as 4,84
+12 Volts reads as 11,78

On my previous boards all readings were
slightly above nominal.

I know that the CPU is not defective.
I bought a new one, and results are
the same !

Is it current on that a sensor, chipset, BIOS problem on that
motherboard (version 1.01), BIOS 1011 ?.

If not the voltage regulator on the board may be
defective.

TIA.

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In article <SWfKe.56466$Z52.355106@wagner.videotron.net>, "Natéag"
<gaetanfo@videotron.ca> wrote:

> Here are my voltage readings with an Antec Neopower 480.
>
> +3,3Volts reads as 3,25
> +5 Volts reads as 4,84
> +12 Volts reads as 11,78
>
> On my previous boards all readings were
> slightly above nominal.
>
> I know that the CPU is not defective.
> I bought a new one, and results are
> the same !
>
> Is it current on that a sensor, chipset, BIOS problem on that
> motherboard (version 1.01), BIOS 1011 ?.
>
> If not the voltage regulator on the board may be
> defective.
>
> TIA.

First of all, don't panic.

None of your measurements are critically low. It looks like your
hardware monitor chip could be erring on the low side. To
determine if that is the case, you'll need to buy or borrow
a multimeter. I've found my ATX PSUs to be much closer to the
correct value, when they are measured by my $100 multimeter,
than when they are measured by the hardware monitor on
the motherboard.

The CPU plays no part in the measurement error, so replacing
the CPU won't do anything. Only if the CPU was completely dead,
and you couldn't get any video output, would changing the
CPU make a difference.

The measurement error on the motherboard consists of two parts.
The hardware monitor chip has an internal voltage reference
used by the ADC. That will have 1% or more error. If Asus is
using 1% resistors for the two resistors in the voltage
divider on each monitored input, those errors add, so the
total error could be 3%. There is no factory calibration
involved here, no potentiometer adjustment to set the gain,
so those errors cannot be dialled out (although it would not
take much work to make that possible, I don't think any
motherboard manufacturer really cares about this issue).

So, if you are still curious, buy or borrow a multimeter, and
see what it reads for each voltage. You can gain access to
+5V and +12V, by using a disk drive cable, and connecting the
multimeter there. Set the multimeter to "DC volts", being
careful to plug the two leads into the holes used for volts
and ohms (not the ammeter holes, as that would result in you
shorting out the power supply, and you'll blow the internal
fuse in the multimeter).

Paul

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I know the voltages are right, because when connected to another motherboard
the voltages show the specified +15 +3.3 +5 volts values.

I do have a problem with the file system and other errors continuously
occurring.
Chkdsk reports repetitive errors in the file system, file index, etc.
I know that can come from a defective hard drive or memory.
But S.M.A.R.T and software tests don't report any problem.
As for the memory, quite extensive tests with memtest did not
find any errors.

I use Windows Scheduler and the following .cmd script to
fix the files errors every two hours

:start
echo.
echo DISQUE C
echo.
call chkdsk c:
if not errorlevel 3 goto end else goto start
:end

Works well.
Still, I will keep looking for the source of the problem.




"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
nospam-1008050436290001@192.168.1.178...

> First of all, don't panic.
>
> None of your measurements are critically low. It looks like your
> hardware monitor chip could be erring on the low side. To
> determine if that is the case, you'll need to buy or borrow
> a multimeter. I've found my ATX PSUs to be much closer to the
> correct value, when they are measured by my $100 multimeter,
> than when they are measured by the hardware monitor on
> the motherboard.
>
> The CPU plays no part in the measurement error, so replacing
> the CPU won't do anything. Only if the CPU was completely dead,
> and you couldn't get any video output, would changing the
> CPU make a difference.
>
> The measurement error on the motherboard consists of two parts.
> The hardware monitor chip has an internal voltage reference
> used by the ADC. That will have 1% or more error. If Asus is
> using 1% resistors for the two resistors in the voltage
> divider on each monitored input, those errors add, so the
> total error could be 3%. There is no factory calibration
> involved here, no potentiometer adjustment to set the gain,
> so those errors cannot be dialled out (although it would not
> take much work to make that possible, I don't think any
> motherboard manufacturer really cares about this issue).
>
> So, if you are still curious, buy or borrow a multimeter, and
> see what it reads for each voltage. You can gain access to
> +5V and +12V, by using a disk drive cable, and connecting the
> multimeter there. Set the multimeter to "DC volts", being
> careful to plug the two leads into the holes used for volts
> and ohms (not the ammeter holes, as that would result in you
> shorting out the power supply, and you'll blow the internal
> fuse in the multimeter).
>
> Paul

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Natéag wrote:
> Here are my voltage readings with an Antec Neopower 480.
>
> +3,3Volts reads as 3,25
> +5 Volts reads as 4,84
> +12 Volts reads as 11,78

I'm using the same motherboard and PSU, and my voltages are reading as
3.28, 4.919 and 12.096. A bit higher than yours, but I don't think yours
are particularly low..

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/

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Thanks. That settles it as far as I am concerned.
I just wanted to make sure my file corruption
problem was not due to low voltages.

The system hardisk is allright.

So I guess I have to launch an extensive
memory test.

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr@nospamshaw.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
ygAKe.184339$%K2.132746@pd7tw1no...
> Natéag wrote:
>> Here are my voltage readings with an Antec Neopower 480.
>>
>> +3,3Volts reads as 3,25
>> +5 Volts reads as 4,84
>> +12 Volts reads as 11,78
>
> I'm using the same motherboard and PSU, and my voltages are reading as
> 3.28, 4.919 and 12.096. A bit higher than yours, but I don't think yours
> are particularly low..
>
> --
> Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
> To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
> Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/