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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:36:45 +1000, "Dragoncarer"
<wee@ihaveabrandspankingnew.computer> wrote:
>
>"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
>news:nospam-1508050449170001@192.168.1.178...
>> In article <r9mvf1h1aiauqvotaf7hi56tsak7jk8rbe@4ax.com>,
>> miller.90@spamlessosu.edu wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:15:24 +0200, Butch <Butch@Butch.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:52:26 GMT, milleron
>>> ><millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:59:43 -0400, Harry Krause
>>> >><harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Butch wrote:
>>> >>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:24:26 -0400, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>So can we assume this is a fairly common problem, and a bios fix is
>>> >>>needed?
>>> >>
>>> >>It would be easy for them to fix it in BIOS. On the Asus AMD boards,
>>> >>you can leave the monitoring enabled but set different thresholds to
>>> >>avoid getting the halt error. Mine's set on 800 RPM, so if BIOS
>>> >>detects the fan at a speed greater than that, POST continues. I
>>> >>assume that they could insert such a feature on Intel-based boards,
>>> >>too.
>>> >>
>>> >>Ron
>>> >
>>> >Hi,
>>> >
>>> >I informed ASUS about the problem and got the following response:
>>> >Dear Customer,
>>> >Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
>>> >My name is Penny and I would be assisting you today.
>>> >
>>> >Due to the BIOS limitation, if the fan speed is below you will get a
>>> >fan error when boot up. When you disable the Q-Fan function, you will
>>> >not get the error.Our R&D engineers are researching the solution. And
>>> >now we don't have another solution to resolve it. Sorry for any
>>> >inconvenience that caused to you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I think the engineers are still researching this compicated problem.
>>> >(Note the fan i am using is the original Intel fan that came with the
>>> >CPU).
>>> >Hope they come with a fix soon. I hated to press F1 everytime when the
>>> >computer starts (i have to stay around).
>>> >
>>> >Butch
>>>
>>> Or else this is boilerplate reply that, read between the line, states
>>> "We don't really give a rat's a$$ about your problem, but we're hoping
>>> that this poorly translated BS will keep you out of our In-Box for a
>>> while."
>>>
>>> Do you, in fact, have Q-Fan enabled?
>>>
>>> I hope they come up with a BIOS fix for you.
>>> Ron
>>
>> Have a look at PDF page 37 (Table 5-2). By changing the divisor
>> setting of the time base for the fan pulse period measurement
>> circuit, you can measure much slower RPM rates than the one
>> the BIOS is using right now. The divisor doesn't have to stay
>> at default 2 or perhaps 4, as it currently does.
>>
>>
http://www.winbond-usa.com/products/winbond_products/pdfs/PCIC/627hf.pdf
>>
>> If we could set the divisor for each monitored fan channel, via
>> a BIOS setting, this would be easy to fix.
>>
>> As for fixing the BIOS, there are many fingers in the pie. AMI/Award
>> write some of the code, and I'm sure not all the code comes with
>> source. Some processor specific code could come from AMD or Intel.
>> Chipset code might come from the chipset maker. RAID or LAN chip
>> BIOS modules from their respective makers. Asus may write custom
>> portions (Q-fan or any of their other features), but the time to
>> get repairs, when the BIOS module is "owned" by another company,
>> is variable. Still, in this case, the "slow fan" issue has been
>> around forever, and I tend to agree with the "We don't really
>> give a rat's a$$" as being the root of the problem. The BIOS
>> designers should have a set of "policies" that the BIOS are
>> designed to, and the fact that each board has a different
>> threshold means this is not a priority.
>>
>> Paul
>
>Here's my (late) two cents. I've gotten errors a couple of times, so I just
>set the CPU fan threshold in BIOS under the Q-Fan options to 800rpm.
>
>When the machine first boots up, CPU fan often starts off around
>950+rpm...but as it gets going, and after it's been in windows for, say,
>10-15 minutes, it's sped up to anything above 1100rpm. Right now it's
>1460rpm.
>
Well, that's what most of us do, but the OP has a board on which the
BIOS doesn't allow setting a threshold level.
Ron
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