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I just built up a new system with an A8N-E, Athlon64 3800, &
WinXpProSr2. I cannot get the comm port to work. I use it for various
pieces of electronic hardware, and none can communicate with it.

As the simplest test, I've connected the machine to a single board
computer with a null modem cable. When I start Hyperterm, and try to
connect to the SBC, CPU usage goes to 100%, and my system is almost
totally unresponsive until I can get hyperterm to disconnect. If I move
the cable from this new machine to my old Win98 machine, all works fine.
The old computer and the SBC happily exchange information. I have
configured the com port (com1) on the new machine exactly the same as on
the old machine.

The only other com port on the new machine is a modem, which is assigned
to com4.

Any ideas?

Howard Delman
--
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In article <11hep3jprvqls7c@corp.supernews.com>, Howard Delman
<delman@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> I just built up a new system with an A8N-E, Athlon64 3800, &
> WinXpProSr2. I cannot get the comm port to work. I use it for various
> pieces of electronic hardware, and none can communicate with it.
>
> As the simplest test, I've connected the machine to a single board
> computer with a null modem cable. When I start Hyperterm, and try to
> connect to the SBC, CPU usage goes to 100%, and my system is almost
> totally unresponsive until I can get hyperterm to disconnect. If I move
> the cable from this new machine to my old Win98 machine, all works fine.
> The old computer and the SBC happily exchange information. I have
> configured the com port (com1) on the new machine exactly the same as on
> the old machine.
>
> The only other com port on the new machine is a modem, which is assigned
> to com4.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Howard Delman

On some other boards, Asus uses Texas Instruments GD75232
RS-232 interface chips. These are old style chips, that
run from +12V and -12V.

http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/gd75232.pdf

Is there any possibility that your -12V is out of whack ?

The fact that the new power supplies have no -5V any more,
should not affect a chip like the GD75232.

Also, I notice in the manual, that the A8N-E package
does not come with a serial port adapter plate for a
PCI slot. With third party adapter assemblies, there
are two wiring patterns for the nine pins. The result
is, not all adapter plates will work.

Here is a previous effort to debug an Asus COM port:

http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/p4c800e.html

Paul

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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-0109052237060001@192.168.1.178...
> Also, I notice in the manual, that the A8N-E package
> does not come with a serial port adapter plate for a
> PCI slot. With third party adapter assemblies, there
> are two wiring patterns for the nine pins. The result
> is, not all adapter plates will work.
> Paul

My AN8-E (an early model) came with serial port adapter plate for a PCI slot
opening in the rear of the case. I have it hooked up to a 56 kbs US Robotics
modem that I occasionally use for faxing. It works perfectly.

It is described on page 1-27 of the user manual.

Maybe the OP did not hook it up properly to the motherboard header.

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In article <F5CdnYmLquBvIIreRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "Mark A"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
> news:nospam-0109052237060001@192.168.1.178...
> > Also, I notice in the manual, that the A8N-E package
> > does not come with a serial port adapter plate for a
> > PCI slot. With third party adapter assemblies, there
> > are two wiring patterns for the nine pins. The result
> > is, not all adapter plates will work.
> > Paul
>
> My AN8-E (an early model) came with serial port adapter plate for a PCI slot
> opening in the rear of the case. I have it hooked up to a 56 kbs US Robotics
> modem that I occasionally use for faxing. It works perfectly.
>
> It is described on page 1-27 of the user manual.
>
> Maybe the OP did not hook it up properly to the motherboard header.

OK. I see an adapter pictured here. So that is not the problem.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Show [...] -%20Retail

Paul

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Paul wrote:
> In article <11hep3jprvqls7c@corp.supernews.com>, Howard Delman
> <delman@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I just built up a new system with an A8N-E, Athlon64 3800, &
>>WinXpProSr2. I cannot get the comm port to work. I use it for various
>>pieces of electronic hardware, and none can communicate with it.
>>
>>As the simplest test, I've connected the machine to a single board
>>computer with a null modem cable. When I start Hyperterm, and try to
>>connect to the SBC, CPU usage goes to 100%, and my system is almost
>>totally unresponsive until I can get hyperterm to disconnect. If I move
>>the cable from this new machine to my old Win98 machine, all works fine.
>> The old computer and the SBC happily exchange information. I have
>>configured the com port (com1) on the new machine exactly the same as on
>>the old machine.
>>
>>The only other com port on the new machine is a modem, which is assigned
>>to com4.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Howard Delman
>
>
> On some other boards, Asus uses Texas Instruments GD75232
> RS-232 interface chips. These are old style chips, that
> run from +12V and -12V.
>
> http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/gd75232.pdf
>
> Is there any possibility that your -12V is out of whack?

I've had a 'scope on the Txd and Rxd lines, and they are wiggling at the
right baud rate, and their levels are reasonable. I know the port is
connected, and I know it is being written by software. But clearly...
something is severely messed up.

Howard

--
Delman Design
Digital design from conception to production
http://www.blueneptune.com/~delman

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In article <11hfrmjb0n7at12@corp.supernews.com>, Howard Delman
<delman@blueneptune.com> wrote:

> Paul wrote:
> > In article <11hep3jprvqls7c@corp.supernews.com>, Howard Delman
> > <delman@blueneptune.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I just built up a new system with an A8N-E, Athlon64 3800, &
> >>WinXpProSr2. I cannot get the comm port to work. I use it for various
> >>pieces of electronic hardware, and none can communicate with it.
> >>
> >>As the simplest test, I've connected the machine to a single board
> >>computer with a null modem cable. When I start Hyperterm, and try to
> >>connect to the SBC, CPU usage goes to 100%, and my system is almost
> >>totally unresponsive until I can get hyperterm to disconnect. If I move
> >>the cable from this new machine to my old Win98 machine, all works fine.
> >> The old computer and the SBC happily exchange information. I have
> >>configured the com port (com1) on the new machine exactly the same as on
> >>the old machine.
> >>
> >>The only other com port on the new machine is a modem, which is assigned
> >>to com4.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>
> >>Howard Delman
> >
> >
> > On some other boards, Asus uses Texas Instruments GD75232
> > RS-232 interface chips. These are old style chips, that
> > run from +12V and -12V.
> >
> > http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/gd75232.pdf
> >
> > Is there any possibility that your -12V is out of whack?
>
> I've had a 'scope on the Txd and Rxd lines, and they are wiggling at the
> right baud rate, and their levels are reasonable. I know the port is
> connected, and I know it is being written by software. But clearly...
> something is severely messed up.
>
> Howard

Could it be a serial port interrupt happening over and over
again ? Would a flow control RS-232 signal stuck in the
wrong state do that ?

Paul

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Paul wrote:
> In article <11hfrmjb0n7at12@corp.supernews.com>, Howard Delman
> <delman@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Paul wrote:
>>
>>>In article <11hep3jprvqls7c@corp.supernews.com>, Howard Delman
>>><delman@blueneptune.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just built up a new system with an A8N-E, Athlon64 3800, &
>>>>WinXpProSr2. I cannot get the comm port to work. I use it for various
>>>>pieces of electronic hardware, and none can communicate with it.
>>>>
>>>>As the simplest test, I've connected the machine to a single board
>>>>computer with a null modem cable. When I start Hyperterm, and try to
>>>>connect to the SBC, CPU usage goes to 100%, and my system is almost
>>>>totally unresponsive until I can get hyperterm to disconnect. If I move
>>>>the cable from this new machine to my old Win98 machine, all works fine.
>>>>The old computer and the SBC happily exchange information. I have
>>>>configured the com port (com1) on the new machine exactly the same as on
>>>>the old machine.
>>>>
>>>>The only other com port on the new machine is a modem, which is assigned
>>>>to com4.
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>Howard Delman
>>>
>>>
>>>On some other boards, Asus uses Texas Instruments GD75232
>>>RS-232 interface chips. These are old style chips, that
>>>run from +12V and -12V.
>>>
>>>http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/gd75232.pdf
>>>
>>>Is there any possibility that your -12V is out of whack?
>>
>>I've had a 'scope on the Txd and Rxd lines, and they are wiggling at the
>>right baud rate, and their levels are reasonable. I know the port is
>>connected, and I know it is being written by software. But clearly...
>>something is severely messed up.
>>
>>Howard
>
>
> Could it be a serial port interrupt happening over and over
> again ? Would a flow control RS-232 signal stuck in the
> wrong state do that ?
>
> Paul

I have flow control set to "none."

A flailing interrupt would certainly overwhelm the CPU, but that would
be a hardware fault. There is no data being sent, and the various
control lines are inactive, so there is nothing to generate an interrupt.

If you recall my test configuration, I have the comm port connected with
a null modem cable to an rs232 port on a single-board-computer. The SBC
is idling. There is nothing being sent between the machines. But
hyperterm is clearly being overwhelmed by something, and using 99% of
CPU capacity.

Since this is a brand new computer, it is possible that there really is
a hardware fault. But my experience suggests that is very very
unlikely. And I would dread having to rebuild the machine, and to
convince Asus to exchange my board.

Howard
--
Delman Design
Digital design from conception to production
http://www.blueneptune.com/~delman

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