Obama and Putin
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musical marv
June 19, 2012 3:07:52 AM
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Baa ... you Americans simply don't understand Russky "Posturing" ...
Putin simply wants a bit of respect ...
The russians have no intentions of going back down the old path ... they have too much to gain moving forward.
If the US treated Russia better as a business partner they would respond a lot more favourably.
The recent negative comments were simply posturing die to the elections.
Putin simply wants a bit of respect ...
The russians have no intentions of going back down the old path ... they have too much to gain moving forward.
If the US treated Russia better as a business partner they would respond a lot more favourably.
The recent negative comments were simply posturing die to the elections.
Yes after the wall came down and decent relations commenced between the US and Russia it became blatently obvious that their level of tech was significantly lower, however more robust and inline with KISS in many respects.
War between superpowers is simply stupid in any case due to the danger of nuclear weapons.
The Olympic games is a much more sensible approach, along with word cup Soccer and Rugby, and Cricket ... oh and not forgetting the winter games.
I should include Ice Hockey ... a fantastic sport to watch.
Alas here in Australia I don't see it catching on soon ... though we could setup on Antarctica I guess ... bit far to drive ... er surf though.
War between superpowers is simply stupid in any case due to the danger of nuclear weapons.
The Olympic games is a much more sensible approach, along with word cup Soccer and Rugby, and Cricket ... oh and not forgetting the winter games.
I should include Ice Hockey ... a fantastic sport to watch.
Alas here in Australia I don't see it catching on soon ... though we could setup on Antarctica I guess ... bit far to drive ... er surf though.
wanamingo
June 19, 2012 5:02:38 PM
Ummm, there was that little thing called defense spending, where a good part of that race was not only held, but won by the US, as the USSRs spending to its GDP for defense was too large for sustainability, where we saw Reagan undo the many reductions in those defense spending capacities, and where every serviceman I talked to at the time said Reagan was their and the militaries best friend.
But yes, there were other factors as well
But yes, there were other factors as well
wanamingo
June 19, 2012 7:34:09 PM
dogman_1234
June 19, 2012 9:30:19 PM
The real hero of destroying communism was...here we go...the economy.
USSR spent more on defense than on their own socialist plans for the people. More money in weapons, less on food. Wonder why liberals here are afraid?
Putin strikes me as one of an old soviet dog...he has his tricks, and won't move for a new one. Obama is a new trick, so will Romney. Did you know Putin was former KGB?
USSR spent more on defense than on their own socialist plans for the people. More money in weapons, less on food. Wonder why liberals here are afraid?
Putin strikes me as one of an old soviet dog...he has his tricks, and won't move for a new one. Obama is a new trick, so will Romney. Did you know Putin was former KGB?
Oldmangamer_73
June 19, 2012 10:25:49 PM
blackhawk1928
June 20, 2012 1:23:52 AM
musical marv
June 20, 2012 2:52:43 AM
Reynod said:
I am not sure.Obama is straight ... not sure about Putin.
He gets pretty friendly when pi$$ed.
If Michelle is serciving Obama well I den't see Putin taking him away from her.
Where are we going with this?
Am I on the right track?
JAYDEEJOHN said:
Ummm, there was that little thing called defense spending, where a good part of that race was not only held, but won by the US, as the USSRs spending to its GDP for defense was too large for sustainability, where we saw Reagan undo the many reductions in those defense spending capacities, and where every serviceman I talked to at the time said Reagan was their and the militaries best friend.But yes, there were other factors as well
Yeah, that was a main point. Our economy was able to better sustain the debt than their economy. It wasn't about military might or anything like that. We just had more capacity to spend than they did.. mutually assured destruction was the same.
They said ending the cold war was good because they could better serve the people. The people saw it as a win and the US backing down. Over here, we saw Russia backing down and we dominating through leadership and military power. Each claimed it as a win and that the other side backed down.
musical marv
June 21, 2012 2:54:33 AM
musical marv
June 21, 2012 2:56:25 AM
riser said:
The wall didn't come down because of Reagan. (Holy crap, did I really say that?) It came down for other reasons but Reagan claimed it as a win, as did Gorby claimed it as a win on their side. Both saved face against a lose-lose situation.
musical marv
June 22, 2012 3:10:32 AM
musical marv
June 23, 2012 3:05:30 AM
Oldmangamer_73
June 23, 2012 3:52:23 AM
Oldmangamer_73
June 23, 2012 3:58:07 AM
Oldmangamer_73
June 23, 2012 4:17:21 AM
dogman_1234
June 23, 2012 5:25:35 AM
musical marv
June 24, 2012 2:35:14 AM
Sorry Marv ... had footy yesterday (two games to go to) so only just got back on this morning ... washing jumpers today too ...
Yes I am from Australia.
The poms here pick it up straight away because of my lack of respect for their Queen ... and the Yanks because of my sense of humour.
Aussies are a cheeky lot but we are almost always well intentioned.
If you read any of my posts and are offended then you need to realise our language is a bit different.
For instance often when we say "GTFOOH" we actually mean ... "Surely you jest?".
AMDFangirl is technically a Kiwi but we are reprogramming her.
randomizer and Pyree are also Aussies.
We all do a lot to keep the forums clean of spam, and try to curb abusive behaviour etc.
Regarding Obama and Putin I think you will find the US / Russian relationship will improve slightly, then erode during the next US elections ... in much the same way it did when the Russian elections were being held ... more "posturing" to try to improve election chances I imagine.
Frankly a strong US / Russian alliance is important for world stability.
Strong ties between Russia and China are a concern ... though the recent Chinese offer to assist with the Euro problems have been warmly received as a bit of an olive branch I imagine.
olmangamers information regarding GM's ties with China are something that is a bit of a concern.
OMG finds a lot of interesting stuff in this regard.
Yes I am from Australia.
The poms here pick it up straight away because of my lack of respect for their Queen ... and the Yanks because of my sense of humour.
Aussies are a cheeky lot but we are almost always well intentioned.
If you read any of my posts and are offended then you need to realise our language is a bit different.
For instance often when we say "GTFOOH" we actually mean ... "Surely you jest?".
AMDFangirl is technically a Kiwi but we are reprogramming her.
randomizer and Pyree are also Aussies.
We all do a lot to keep the forums clean of spam, and try to curb abusive behaviour etc.
Regarding Obama and Putin I think you will find the US / Russian relationship will improve slightly, then erode during the next US elections ... in much the same way it did when the Russian elections were being held ... more "posturing" to try to improve election chances I imagine.
Frankly a strong US / Russian alliance is important for world stability.
Strong ties between Russia and China are a concern ... though the recent Chinese offer to assist with the Euro problems have been warmly received as a bit of an olive branch I imagine.
olmangamers information regarding GM's ties with China are something that is a bit of a concern.
OMG finds a lot of interesting stuff in this regard.
musical marv
June 25, 2012 2:51:59 AM
Reynod said:
Sorry Marv ... had footy yesterday (two games to go to) so only just got back on this morning ... washing jumpers today too ...Yes I am from Australia.
The poms here pick it up straight away because of my lack of respect for their Queen ... and the Yanks because of my sense of humour.
Aussies are a cheeky lot but we are almost always well intentioned.
If you read any of my posts and are offended then you need to realise our language is a bit different.
For instance often when we say "GTFOOH" we actually mean ... "Surely you jest?".
AMDFangirl is technically a Kiwi but we are reprogramming her.
randomizer and Pyree are also Aussies.
We all do a lot to keep the forums clean of spam, and try to curb abusive behaviour etc.
Regarding Obama and Putin I think you will find the US / Russian relationship will improve slightly, then erode during the next US elections ... in much the same way it did when the Russian elections were being held ... more "posturing" to try to improve election chances I imagine.
Frankly a strong US / Russian alliance is important for world stability.
Strong ties between Russia and China are a concern ... though the recent Chinese offer to assist with the Euro problems have been warmly received as a bit of an olive branch I imagine.
olmangamers information regarding GM's ties with China are something that is a bit of a concern.
OMG finds a lot of interesting stuff in this regard.
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