Obama and Putin

Do you think Obama will have a real close relationship with Russia now that Putin is president?
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  1. I am not sure.

    Obama is straight ... not sure about Putin.

    He gets pretty friendly when pi$$ed.

    If Michelle is serciving Obama well I den't see Putin taking him away from her.

    Where are we going with this?

    Am I on the right track?
  2. Putin is going to play Obama. Obama doesn't have the backbone or the experience to handle Putin.

    I really suspect Russia is going to gain strong footing again, teamed up with China and other countries, to the detriment of the US.
  3. Baa ... you Americans simply don't understand Russky "Posturing" ...

    Putin simply wants a bit of respect ...

    The russians have no intentions of going back down the old path ... they have too much to gain moving forward.

    If the US treated Russia better as a business partner they would respond a lot more favourably.

    The recent negative comments were simply posturing die to the elections.
  4. I actually have some respect for Putin because he's doing what he believes is right for his country. I like the strength that he shows. Though, how he goes about some of it I do disagree with.

    He could easily handle Obama if he wanted to but I think he projects more than what he has.
  5. Yes after the wall came down and decent relations commenced between the US and Russia it became blatently obvious that their level of tech was significantly lower, however more robust and inline with KISS in many respects.

    War between superpowers is simply stupid in any case due to the danger of nuclear weapons.

    The Olympic games is a much more sensible approach, along with word cup Soccer and Rugby, and Cricket ... oh and not forgetting the winter games.

    I should include Ice Hockey ... a fantastic sport to watch.

    Alas here in Australia I don't see it catching on soon ... though we could setup on Antarctica I guess ... bit far to drive ... er surf though.
  6. The wall didn't come down because of Reagan. (Holy crap, did I really say that?) It came down for other reasons but Reagan claimed it as a win, as did Gorby claimed it as a win on their side. Both saved face against a lose-lose situation.
  7. Ummm, there was that little thing called defense spending, where a good part of that race was not only held, but won by the US, as the USSRs spending to its GDP for defense was too large for sustainability, where we saw Reagan undo the many reductions in those defense spending capacities, and where every serviceman I talked to at the time said Reagan was their and the militaries best friend.
    But yes, there were other factors as well
  8. Im pretty sure David Hasslehoff and a little movie called Red Dawn might have had some influence in the situation.....
  9. The real hero of destroying communism was...here we go...the economy.

    USSR spent more on defense than on their own socialist plans for the people. More money in weapons, less on food. Wonder why liberals here are afraid?

    Putin strikes me as one of an old soviet dog...he has his tricks, and won't move for a new one. Obama is a new trick, so will Romney. Did you know Putin was former KGB?
  10. Could video have had a impact on the Soviet downfall? Video could have gotten into the already-ing loosened border grip and people could have seen the U.S way of life from recordings. Not sure, but a reasonable suspicion.
  11. Reynod said:
    I am not sure.

    Obama is straight ... not sure about Putin.

    He gets pretty friendly when pi$$ed.

    If Michelle is serciving Obama well I den't see Putin taking him away from her.

    Where are we going with this?

    Am I on the right track?
    To see what opinions people have in this topic. To think and use your brains on what really Putin has in store for our country.
  12. Now oldtimer no need to get cranky with me.

    :)
  13. JAYDEEJOHN said:
    Ummm, there was that little thing called defense spending, where a good part of that race was not only held, but won by the US, as the USSRs spending to its GDP for defense was too large for sustainability, where we saw Reagan undo the many reductions in those defense spending capacities, and where every serviceman I talked to at the time said Reagan was their and the militaries best friend.
    But yes, there were other factors as well



    Yeah, that was a main point. Our economy was able to better sustain the debt than their economy. It wasn't about military might or anything like that. We just had more capacity to spend than they did.. mutually assured destruction was the same.

    They said ending the cold war was good because they could better serve the people. The people saw it as a win and the US backing down. Over here, we saw Russia backing down and we dominating through leadership and military power. Each claimed it as a win and that the other side backed down.
  14. And that was Reagans proposal, brilliant man
  15. Reynod said:
    Now oldtimer no need to get cranky with me.Have some respect with me . You will be my age someday to.

    :)
  16. riser said:
    The wall didn't come down because of Reagan. (Holy crap, did I really say that?) It came down for other reasons but Reagan claimed it as a win, as did Gorby claimed it as a win on their side. Both saved face against a lose-lose situation.
    Ironically Romney still thinks Russia is our enemy until now. What a jerk!


  17. Yes your quite right oldtimer ... I should have more respect for my elders.

    :)
  18. Reynod said:
    Yes your quite right oldtimer ... I should have more respect for my elders.

    :)
    I see you are a wise ass! Your remarks prove it. Not the least impressed with you and your posts.
  19. Reynod said:
    Baa ... you Americans simply don't understand Russky "Posturing" ...

    Perhaps.

    But then, in the '30's, as far as the U.S. was concerned, the Japanese were "posturing" - right up until December 7, 1941.
  20. Reynod said:
    Yes your quite right oldtimer ... I should have more respect for my elders.

    :)
    What country do you come from anyway?
  21. You mean the non-Communist authoritarian states?

    ;)
  22. ;)

    Exactly. Neither side are saintly.
  23. musical marv said:
    What country do you come from anyway?

    Let me just say he knows the thunder form down under. ;)
  24. dogman_1234 said:
    Let me just say he knows the thunder form down under. ;)
    From Australlia I presume.
  25. Sorry Marv ... had footy yesterday (two games to go to) so only just got back on this morning ... washing jumpers today too ...

    Yes I am from Australia.

    The poms here pick it up straight away because of my lack of respect for their Queen ... and the Yanks because of my sense of humour.

    Aussies are a cheeky lot but we are almost always well intentioned.

    If you read any of my posts and are offended then you need to realise our language is a bit different.

    For instance often when we say "GTFOOH" we actually mean ... "Surely you jest?".

    AMDFangirl is technically a Kiwi but we are reprogramming her.

    randomizer and Pyree are also Aussies.

    We all do a lot to keep the forums clean of spam, and try to curb abusive behaviour etc.

    Regarding Obama and Putin I think you will find the US / Russian relationship will improve slightly, then erode during the next US elections ... in much the same way it did when the Russian elections were being held ... more "posturing" to try to improve election chances I imagine.

    Frankly a strong US / Russian alliance is important for world stability.

    Strong ties between Russia and China are a concern ... though the recent Chinese offer to assist with the Euro problems have been warmly received as a bit of an olive branch I imagine.

    olmangamers information regarding GM's ties with China are something that is a bit of a concern.

    OMG finds a lot of interesting stuff in this regard.

    :)
  26. Reynod said:
    Sorry Marv ... had footy yesterday (two games to go to) so only just got back on this morning ... washing jumpers today too ...

    Yes I am from Australia.

    The poms here pick it up straight away because of my lack of respect for their Queen ... and the Yanks because of my sense of humour.

    Aussies are a cheeky lot but we are almost always well intentioned.

    If you read any of my posts and are offended then you need to realise our language is a bit different.

    For instance often when we say "GTFOOH" we actually mean ... "Surely you jest?".

    AMDFangirl is technically a Kiwi but we are reprogramming her.

    randomizer and Pyree are also Aussies.

    We all do a lot to keep the forums clean of spam, and try to curb abusive behaviour etc.

    Regarding Obama and Putin I think you will find the US / Russian relationship will improve slightly, then erode during the next US elections ... in much the same way it did when the Russian elections were being held ... more "posturing" to try to improve election chances I imagine.

    Frankly a strong US / Russian alliance is important for world stability.

    Strong ties between Russia and China are a concern ... though the recent Chinese offer to assist with the Euro problems have been warmly received as a bit of an olive branch I imagine.

    olmangamers information regarding GM's ties with China are something that is a bit of a concern.

    OMG finds a lot of interesting stuff in this regard.

    :)
    I have friends from Australia. Actually from Brisbane and Sydney. You have a beautiful country and a good PM also. Hopefully I would like see your country before I die.As regarding China and Russia I do not trust them at all.
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