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Anonymous
September 24, 2004 8:09:06 PM

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I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive, to be used as a
slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised as being there. I
haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to format it yet. I've
got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive, do I need to
partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
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Anonymous
September 25, 2004 3:27:08 AM

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"doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
> I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive, to be used as a
> slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised as being there.
I
> haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to format it yet.
I've
> got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive, do I need to
> partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?

Either way works fine.
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 3:27:09 AM

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Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
preferred.


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"Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
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|
| "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
| news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
| > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive,
to be used as a
| > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised
as being there.
| I
| > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to
format it yet.
| I've
| > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive,
do I need to
| > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
|
| Either way works fine.
|
|
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Anonymous
September 25, 2004 3:27:10 AM

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??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS
is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if you change MB to GB.

If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137 GB, XP SP2 will handle
drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS. The only real drawback
to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32 (still haven't figured out
why MS placed that restriction on file system creation in XP but still
allowed a previously formatted '32 drive to function without any problem.)

"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:%23wPSVkpoEHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
> preferred.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
> news:g325d.426806$OB3.82533@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> |
> | "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
> | news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
> | > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive,
> to be used as a
> | > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised
> as being there.
> | I
> | > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to
> format it yet.
> | I've
> | > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive,
> do I need to
> | > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
> |
> | Either way works fine.
> |
> |
>
>
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 3:27:10 AM

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??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS
is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if you change MB to GB.

If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137 GB, XP SP2 will handle
drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS. The only real drawback
to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32 (still haven't figured out
why MS placed that restriction on file system creation in XP but still
allowed a previously formatted '32 drive to function without any problem.)

"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:%23wPSVkpoEHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
> preferred.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
> news:g325d.426806$OB3.82533@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> |
> | "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
> | news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
> | > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive,
> to be used as a
> | > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised
> as being there.
> | I
> | > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to
> format it yet.
> | I've
> | > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive,
> do I need to
> | > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
> |
> | Either way works fine.
> |
> |
>
>
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 3:27:11 AM

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OOPS sorry about the double post, my mail server said the first one bounced.
Guess it didn't.


"LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:10l9m7dg2bu3b79@corp.supernews.com...
> ??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB.
NTFS
> is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if you change MB to GB.
>
> If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137 GB, XP SP2 will
handle
> drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS. The only real
drawback
> to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32 (still haven't figured
out
> why MS placed that restriction on file system creation in XP but still
> allowed a previously formatted '32 drive to function without any problem.)
>
> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
> news:%23wPSVkpoEHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
> > preferred.
> >
> >
> > --
> > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> >
> >
> > "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
> > news:g325d.426806$OB3.82533@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > |
> > | "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
> > | news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
> > | > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive,
> > to be used as a
> > | > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised
> > as being there.
> > | I
> > | > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to
> > format it yet.
> > | I've
> > | > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive,
> > do I need to
> > | > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
> > |
> > | Either way works fine.
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 3:27:11 AM

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Sorry for the MB GB slip. but XP natively can't format drive
(partition) larger than 137 GB as FAT32. You must use NTFS
for large drive unless you do the formatting using FDISK or
Partition Magic. But on a large drive, NTFS will be more
stable and secure.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:10l9m3mrsa2906e@corp.supernews.com...
| ??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at or
below 137 MB. NTFS
| is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if you
change MB to GB.
|
| If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137 GB,
XP SP2 will handle
| drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS. The
only real drawback
| to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32 (still
haven't figured out
| why MS placed that restriction on file system creation in
XP but still
| allowed a previously formatted '32 drive to function
without any problem.)
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:%23wPSVkpoEHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
| > preferred.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
| >
news:g325d.426806$OB3.82533@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| > |
| > | "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
| > |
news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
| > | > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard
drive,
| > to be used as a
| > | > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is
recognised
| > as being there.
| > | I
| > | > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried
to
| > format it yet.
| > | I've
| > | > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the
drive,
| > do I need to
| > | > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
| > |
| > | Either way works fine.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 7:36:21 AM

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"LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:10l9m3mrsa2906e@corp.supernews.com...
> ??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB.
NTFS
> is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if you change MB to GB.
>
> If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137 GB, XP SP2 will
handle
> drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS. The only real
drawback
> to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32 (still haven't figured
out
> why MS placed that restriction on file system creation in XP but still
> allowed a previously formatted '32 drive to function without any problem.)

There's no such 32GB FAT32 limit in XP.

> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
> news:%23wPSVkpoEHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
> > preferred.
> >
> >
> > --
> > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> >
> >
> > "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
> > news:g325d.426806$OB3.82533@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > |
> > | "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
> > | news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
> > | > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive,
> > to be used as a
> > | > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised
> > as being there.
> > | I
> > | > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to
> > format it yet.
> > | I've
> > | > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive,
> > do I need to
> > | > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
> > |
> > | Either way works fine.
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 7:36:22 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

LVTravel wrote:
> ??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at or below 137
> MB. NTFS is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if you
> change MB to GB.
>
> If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137 GB, XP SP2 will
> handle drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS. The
> only real drawback to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32
> (still haven't figured out why MS placed that restriction on file
> system creation in XP but still allowed a previously formatted '32
> drive to function without any problem.)

Ron Reaugh wrote:
> There's no such 32GB FAT32 limit in XP.

Incorrect.

You cannot format a partition FAT32 with native Windows XP utilities larger
than 32GB in size. Windows XP can utilize partitions larger than 32GB, but
it cannot create them. You can actually utilize a 2 Terabyte partition
(FAT32) using Windows XP - but you will have to format it with something
other than Windows XP.

Want to know more?

Description of the FAT32 File System in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310525

Limitations of the FAT32 File System in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314463

Size Limitations in NTFS and FAT File Systems
http://snipurl.com/7xlv

NTFS stretches this limit a bit.. Allowing you to format an NTFS partition
to up to 256 terabytes with internal Windows XP tools. After that (and
yes - you have a lot more space to play with) - I suppose you would have to
use some external tool - although I personally have never had to format
anything larger than 256 Terabyte.

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--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 2:10:07 PM

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Jim, XP pre SP 1 can not format NTFS larger than 137 GB.

If SP 1 or 2 has been slipstreamed (either by the manufacturer of the CD or
the owner of the computer) into the XP installation CD you can create a
larger than 137 GB boot drive. If SP 1 or 2 has not been slipstreamed your
maximum partition size (that can be formatted) for your boot disk is 137 GB.
You can use Partition magic or other software to increase the size of the
boot partition later.

Now, if you add a hard disk larger than 137 GB to a pre SP1 system it will
also partition and format to no larger than 137 GB. Post SP1-2 you can
format it as large as the drive's native size.

XP has an imposed limit on formatting FAT 32 drives to a size of 32 GB.
Once a drive has been formatted in a non-XP computer as a larger than 32 GB
size, it can be used in an XP computer with no problem once it has been
added to Device Manager/Disk Management. I use an 80 GB USB drive as a
go-between to transfer data from my personal computers to various other
computers (OSs of ME, 2K, 98.) When I originally got the drive it was
preformatted as NTFS. Had to dump it and hook it to a win 9X machine to get
the partition and format to FAT 32 as a single partition on the drive.
Hooks to all other computers without any problem now.

"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:u5FwxoqoEHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Sorry for the MB GB slip. but XP natively can't format drive
> (partition) larger than 137 GB as FAT32. You must use NTFS
> for large drive unless you do the formatting using FDISK or
> Partition Magic. But on a large drive, NTFS will be more
> stable and secure.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:10l9m3mrsa2906e@corp.supernews.com...
> | ??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at or
> below 137 MB. NTFS
> | is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if you
> change MB to GB.
> |
> | If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137 GB,
> XP SP2 will handle
> | drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS. The
> only real drawback
> | to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32 (still
> haven't figured out
> | why MS placed that restriction on file system creation in
> XP but still
> | allowed a previously formatted '32 drive to function
> without any problem.)
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
> in message
> | news:%23wPSVkpoEHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | > Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
> | > preferred.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> | >
> | >
> | > "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in message
> | >
> news:g325d.426806$OB3.82533@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> | > |
> | > | "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
> | > |
> news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
> | > | > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard
> drive,
> | > to be used as a
> | > | > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is
> recognised
> | > as being there.
> | > | I
> | > | > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried
> to
> | > format it yet.
> | > | I've
> | > | > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the
> drive,
> | > do I need to
> | > | > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
> | > |
> | > | Either way works fine.
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
Anonymous
September 25, 2004 2:29:53 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

You are correct and I was in error in the detailed numbers.

"LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:10lb1i9j9b8k043@corp.supernews.com...
| Jim, XP pre SP 1 can not format NTFS larger than 137 GB.
|
| If SP 1 or 2 has been slipstreamed (either by the
manufacturer of the CD or
| the owner of the computer) into the XP installation CD you
can create a
| larger than 137 GB boot drive. If SP 1 or 2 has not been
slipstreamed your
| maximum partition size (that can be formatted) for your
boot disk is 137 GB.
| You can use Partition magic or other software to increase
the size of the
| boot partition later.
|
| Now, if you add a hard disk larger than 137 GB to a pre
SP1 system it will
| also partition and format to no larger than 137 GB. Post
SP1-2 you can
| format it as large as the drive's native size.
|
| XP has an imposed limit on formatting FAT 32 drives to a
size of 32 GB.
| Once a drive has been formatted in a non-XP computer as a
larger than 32 GB
| size, it can be used in an XP computer with no problem
once it has been
| added to Device Manager/Disk Management. I use an 80 GB
USB drive as a
| go-between to transfer data from my personal computers to
various other
| computers (OSs of ME, 2K, 98.) When I originally got the
drive it was
| preformatted as NTFS. Had to dump it and hook it to a win
9X machine to get
| the partition and format to FAT 32 as a single partition
on the drive.
| Hooks to all other computers without any problem now.
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:u5FwxoqoEHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > Sorry for the MB GB slip. but XP natively can't format
drive
| > (partition) larger than 137 GB as FAT32. You must use
NTFS
| > for large drive unless you do the formatting using FDISK
or
| > Partition Magic. But on a large drive, NTFS will be
more
| > stable and secure.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > "LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
| > news:10l9m3mrsa2906e@corp.supernews.com...
| > | ??? Jim what do you mean? "Use NTFS or partition at
or
| > below 137 MB. NTFS
| > | is preferred." You answer doesn't make sense even if
you
| > change MB to GB.
| > |
| > | If the computer's bios is capable of larger than 137
GB,
| > XP SP2 will handle
| > | drives much larger than 137 GB if formatted as NTFS.
The
| > only real drawback
| > | to XP is the 32 GB limit if formatting as FAT 32
(still
| > haven't figured out
| > | why MS placed that restriction on file system creation
in
| > XP but still
| > | allowed a previously formatted '32 drive to function
| > without any problem.)
| > |
| > | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
wrote
| > in message
| > | news:%23wPSVkpoEHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > | > Use NTFS or partition at or below 137 MB. NTFS is
| > | > preferred.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| > | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Ron Reaugh" <rondashreaugh@att.net> wrote in
message
| > | >
| >
news:g325d.426806$OB3.82533@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| > | > |
| > | > | "doh" <joh@doh.com> wrote in message
| > | > |
| >
news:FDB9DCEF-AFE7-48D9-AFD8-C07A7F305E5C@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB
hard
| > drive,
| > | > to be used as a
| > | > | > slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is
| > recognised
| > | > as being there.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't
tried
| > to
| > | > format it yet.
| > | > | I've
| > | > | > got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the
| > drive,
| > | > do I need to
| > | > | > partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
| > | > |
| > | > | Either way works fine.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
Anonymous
September 26, 2004 7:35:01 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

Thanks to the respondents. I checked on the Maxtor website for the jumpering
for a DiamondPlus9 as slave (I don't know if I really needed to do this, but
I removed the vertical jumper). Maxtor also had really good FAQ pages for
finding out where to look in Control Panel to install the hard disk drive (ie
get it recognised by XP). I used NTFS and pretty much left the defaults on.
Am now a happy bunny with 200GB, well OK 189GB, of usable G: drive.

"doh" wrote:

> I've just bought a Maxtor DiamondPlus9 200GB hard drive, to be used as a
> slave. I've put the drive in my PC and it is recognised as being there. I
> haven't changed any jumpers yet and I haven't tried to format it yet. I've
> got XP (+SP2) on my machine. When I format the drive, do I need to
> partition it, or can XP handle 200GB?
> --
> Thanks
>
>
!