Have You had problems with bad capacitirs on K7VZA?

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I started recvently having loads if exceptions erros and automatic
random rebooting from my computer. Someone has suggested that it is
probavbly one or more blown or bad capacitors. Have other
ecepeicenced thios recently. Please relate dthe symptoms to me.

 

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J. P. Willis wrote:

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>
> I started recvently having loads if exceptions erros and automatic
> random rebooting from my computer. Someone has suggested that it is
> probavbly one or more blown or bad capacitors. Have other
> ecepeicenced thios recently. Please relate dthe symptoms to me.

I had a K7S5A v3.1 with bad caps. You will probably notice that the caps
have "domed" tops on them. They may also be leaking "lytic" material, but
not always. I had 11 caps bad near the memory subsystem. Replacing them
is probably not worth it, unless you feel energtic and are very good with a
soldering iron.
--
Kirbalo...

K7S5A Pro, Athlon XP 1600+
1 Gig DDR, 120 GB, nVidia GeForce 4 MX 440
SuSE Linux 9.2 Pro & XP Pro Dual Boot
Linux 2.6.8-24.10-default
10:14am up 1:10, 3 users, load average: 0.87, 0.58, 0.49

 

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"J. P. Willis" <jopwill@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
> I started recvently having loads if exceptions erros and automatic
> random rebooting from my computer. Someone has suggested that it is
> probavbly one or more blown or bad capacitors. Have other
> ecepeicenced thios recently. Please relate dthe symptoms to me.
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I just yesterday was reading about the class action settlement with Abit
about their use of bad caps. You've got the symptoms.

 

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Why is this iccurrig just now. Is it the brand of board that makes it
pertinent or what. Is it just the mobo's produced about three years
ago or when? What is the best explanation for the problem. I have
been unable to find much discussiin of the issue except for Abit
boards.









On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:17:39 -0600, kirbalo <kirbalo@nospam.com>
wrote:

>J. P. Willis wrote:
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>>
>>
>> I started recvently having loads if exceptions erros and automatic
>> random rebooting from my computer. Someone has suggested that it is
>> probavbly one or more blown or bad capacitors. Have other
>> ecepeicenced thios recently. Please relate dthe symptoms to me.
>
>I had a K7S5A v3.1 with bad caps. You will probably notice that the caps
>have "domed" tops on them. They may also be leaking "lytic" material, but
>not always. I had 11 caps bad near the memory subsystem. Replacing them
>is probably not worth it, unless you feel energtic and are very good with a
>soldering iron.

 

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J. P. Willis wrote:

>
>
> Why is this iccurrig just now. Is it the brand of board that makes it
> pertinent or what. Is it just the mobo's produced abrecipe years
> ago or when? What is the best explanation for the problem. I have
> been unable recipe much discussiin of the issue except for Abit
> boards.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:17:39 -0600, kirbalo <kirbalo@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>J. P. Willis wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> I started recvently having loads if exceptions erros and automatic
>>> random rebooting from my computer. Someone has suggested that it is
>>> probavbly one or more blown or bad capacitors. Have other
>>> ecepeicenced thios recently. Please relate dthe symptoms to me.
>>
>>I had a K7S5A v3.1 with bad caps. You will probably notice that the caps
>>have "domed" tops on them. They may also be leaking "lytic" material, but
>>not always. I had 11 caps bad near the memory subsystem. Replacing them
>>is probably not worth it, unless you feel energtic and are very good with
>>a soldering iron.

If you dig deep into news about 3 years ago, you might find some snippits.
To the best of my knowledge, the story went something like this...(Please
feel free to append, correct, etc.)

There was a gentleman at a Japanese capacitor manufacturer who left to work
at a Taiwanese capacitor manufacturer. He took what he thought was a
complete recipe for the "lytic' material with him, either in memory or in
print, probably the prior. The recipe was apparently incomplete. Other
cap. manufacturers (TW) started to use this same recipe, probably for cost
reasons. In a nutshell, the caps. are not stable over temperature, and
they break down.

It was mobo independent, and cap. manufacturer independent, AFAIK, but that
it did occur during a certain timeframe of about 3 years ago...
--
Kirbalo...

K7S5A Pro, Athlon XP 1600+
1 Gig DDR, 120 GB, nVidia GeForce 4 MX 440
SuSE Linux 9.2 Pro & XP Pro Dual Boot
Linux 2.6.8-24.10-default
9:29am up 1 day 0:25, 3 users, load average: 1.18, 1.39, 1.43

 

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yes, I have got an K7S6A and raplace 3 capacitors. Before the repair I
apreciate more frecuent blue screens than never before, and Motherboard
monitor begun to alarm on voltages. Yesterday cleaning the case and
changing bad fans I apreciate a blowed cap on the cpu regulator. I will
need to do more repairs.

My brother's Abit KT7-raid do the same than yours. One day can't boot and
reboot itself permanently. I replace 13 bad caps and it's actualy running
smooth.

excuse my poor english.

En Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:40:38 GMT, J. P. Willis <jopwill@ix.netcom.com>
escribió:

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> I started recvently having loads if exceptions erros and automatic
> random rebooting from my computer. Someone has suggested that it is
> probavbly one or more blown or bad capacitors. Have other
> ecepeicenced thios recently. Please relate dthe symptoms to me.



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How can the capicotor manufacurers avoid tasking responsibility for
this mess. If it was an automobile involvwed would it noiat have een
recalled before the warranty want south omn it.

Why was no alarm sounded long ago?










On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:38:40 -0600, kirbalo <kirbalo@nospam.com>
wrote:

>J. P. Willis wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Why is this iccurrig just now. Is it the brand of board that makes it
>> pertinent or what. Is it just the mobo's produced abrecipe years
>> ago or when? What is the best explanation for the problem. I have
>> been unable recipe much discussiin of the issue except for Abit
>> boards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:17:39 -0600, kirbalo <kirbalo@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>J. P. Willis wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I started recvently having loads if exceptions erros and automatic
>>>> random rebooting from my computer. Someone has suggested that it is
>>>> probavbly one or more blown or bad capacitors. Have other
>>>> ecepeicenced thios recently. Please relate dthe symptoms to me.
>>>
>>>I had a K7S5A v3.1 with bad caps. You will probably notice that the caps
>>>have "domed" tops on them. They may also be leaking "lytic" material, but
>>>not always. I had 11 caps bad near the memory subsystem. Replacing them
>>>is probably not worth it, unless you feel energtic and are very good with
>>>a soldering iron.
>
>If you dig deep into news about 3 years ago, you might find some snippits.
>To the best of my knowledge, the story went something like this...(Please
>feel free to append, correct, etc.)
>
>There was a gentleman at a Japanese capacitor manufacturer who left to work
>at a Taiwanese capacitor manufacturer. He took what he thought was a
>complete recipe for the "lytic' material with him, either in memory or in
>print, probably the prior. The recipe was apparently incomplete. Other
>cap. manufacturers (TW) started to use this same recipe, probably for cost
>reasons. In a nutshell, the caps. are not stable over temperature, and
>they break down.
>
>It was mobo independent, and cap. manufacturer independent, AFAIK, but that
>it did occur during a certain timeframe of about 3 years ago...

 

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"J. P. Willis" <jopwill@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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| How can the capicotor manufacurers avoid tasking responsibility for
| this mess. If it was an automobile involvwed would it noiat have
een
| recalled before the warranty want south omn it.
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| Why was no alarm sounded long ago?
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Because the recall costs might put some manufacturers out of business,
or seriously hurt their bottom line profitability. The whole scenario
was a classic finger pointing affair, with no responsible business
willing to take the blame or make things right. I've seen several
caps fail for no apparent reason, most of them were in a board that is
quite old now.
--
Best regards,
Kyle

 

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In article <u5jdu0pifc8judmtq4bej1vm8ml2f7hdh3@4ax.com>, J. P. Willis
<jopwill@ix.netcom.com> writes
>
>
>How can the capicotor manufacurers avoid tasking responsibility for
>this mess. If it was an automobile involvwed would it noiat have een
>recalled before the warranty want south omn it.
>
>Why was no alarm sounded long ago?

It was. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html

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"Mike Tomlinson" <mike@NOSPAM.jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
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| In article <u5jdu0pifc8judmtq4bej1vm8ml2f7hdh3@4ax.com>, J. P.
Willis
| <jopwill@ix.netcom.com> writes
| >
| >
| >How can the capicotor manufacurers avoid tasking responsibility for
| >this mess. If it was an automobile involvwed would it noiat have
een
| >recalled before the warranty want south omn it.
| >
| >Why was no alarm sounded long ago?
|
| It was.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html
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| --
| .sigmonster on vacation
|
|

Lol, I have one of the Tayeh caps sitting in front of me still. It
came from a Soyo 5EHM mobo, so the bad caps were around quite some
time ago.

--
Best regards,
Kyle