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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:19:44 +1200, "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>So, you don't have an 8KNXP at all then.
>That explains half the problem.
>
>- Tim
I did not state that I did, the GA-8I875 Ultra is the same as a GA-8KNXP Rev
2, with out the DSP2 thing, and uses the same Bios and problems.
It even has the same Manual.
>
>"Karen Parker" <kparker@xxxyahooxxx.com> wrote in message
>news:h806i0dgd1tor7a0q1m71gjvmv3h7ti22n@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:11:43 +1200, "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Karen,
>>>
>>>Your problems may be due to either the location of the boot files, or the
>>>fact that you are / were on bios F8, or a combination of factors. I
>>>suggest
>>>you try bios F10 and see if that resolves your issues. Before you do and
>>>If
>>>not...
>>
>>
>>
>> The GA-8I875 Ultra only uses Bios's from F2 to F8, the same as the
>> GA-8KNXP
>> Rev 2..
>>
>>
>>>If you place a disk drive on a controller that preceeds the current boot
>>>disc - you can't expect the system to boot. EG if your bios is set with
>>>the
>>>following boot order: Floppy , CD, HDD - and you leave a floppy in the
>>>drive
>>>it won't boot will it? (OK some bios are smart). Don't expect it to boot
>>>if
>>>you put an IDE HDD in front of the boot IDE HDD.
>>
>>
>> These 2 Data drives are just unplugged and the system fails to boot,
>> "Error Loading OS", but going back to the F2 Bios, all is OK..
>>
>> The Drives letters do not change at all, C: is the Boot Drive, Drive 1
>> and D:
>> is the XP drive, Drive 2
>>
>>
>>>Generally the boot disc should be on the lowest numbered device (in
>>>hardware
>>>search order terms) of its type and the boot device type should be set
>>>correctly. IE if you say to boot off IDE, then the boot device "should" be
>>>on IDE Primary on IDE 0.
>>
>>
>>
>> It boots from the Raid Controller SCSI-0
>>
>>>Now, you confuse things a little by entitling your post RAID.... but there
>>>after only talk about IDE... If you are using RAID then please be careful
>>>with the bios version you use.
>>>
>>>Check your BOOT drive:
>>>
>>>Put the drives back where they were originally and go into Disk Management
>>>in Computer Management under XP and check where the BOOT drive is. Then
>>>check where the BOOT.ini, and ntldr are. These may not be where you think
>>>they are so this either needs fixing or you need to always remember this.
>>>When you have confirmed where everything is, then if there is a problem
>>>fix
>>>it first (EG do a repair and put the boot components on the front of the
>>>Win98 disc since that has to be C: in its own view of things), then when
>>>you
>>>alter the disc configuration always keep in mind where whatever is, how
>>>the
>>>bios is set, and review the bios settings before attempting to boot.
>>
>> No its a Bios fault, not to easy to fix as every thing checks out 100%.
>>
>>
>>>IMHO, there is only 1 bios to use on 8KNXP rev 1 and that is F10.
>>
>>
>> No this is a GA-8I875 Ultra that same MoBo as a GA-8KNXP Rev 2.
>>
>>
>> It has the same as the Rev. 2 bios's but not the very latest that has just
>> come out.
>>
>>> You should
>>>not go back to an ancient pre-production bios version such as a version
>>>2 -
>>>maybe you meant F7? F5 was bad enough - if you had been using RAID this
>>>could have trashed your drives. There were substantial issues with RAM
>>>timings with bios revisions prior to and including F6 - by themselves
>>>these
>>>could have created a nightmare for you. 8KNXP became sort of stable with
>>>F6,
>>>but is stable / settled with F10. Bios versions F7, F8, and F9 should not
>>>be
>>>used as they had major issues, and were correspondingly short lived.
>>
>>
>>
>> F2 is what came with the MoBo and the only one that works.
>>
>>>I suggest that if you can, read any notes on the gigabyte site re the bios
>>>versions you have used and check these against the use you have of the
>>>different controllers (RAID, IDE, non HDD devices) and the needed device
>>>drivers & versions. There are new ITE drivers out (for quite a while) and
>>>updates corresponding to these in one or other bios version.
>>>
>>>- Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>"Karen Parker" <kparker@xxxyahooxxx.com> wrote in message
>>>news:f9a5i0daqmrkfubcnmtphndbijdpv2f1em@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think others have had similar problems that occurred with bios
>>>> updates.
>>>>
>>>> Using The Raid Controller as a ATA Controller.
>>>>
>>>> All SATA disabled.
>>>>
>>>> 4 x Seagate Drives Dual Boot 98se/XP on 2 separate drives, connected
>>>> to
>>>> IDE
>>>> 3, 2 x Data drives on IDE4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I removed the Data drives from IDE4 the system reports
>>>> "Error Loading OS"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Plugging in a New Seagate drive not formatted, the system boots, but not
>>>> after
>>>> the drive is formatted.
>>>>
>>>> In the End moved the Boot System drives from IDE3 to 4, now it boots,
>>>> but
>>>> after adding a new formatted drive to IDE3 it no longer boot from
>>>> either
>>>> IDE
>>>> now...???
>>>>
>>>> Decided to go back to a much earlier Bios was F8 now F2, system now
>>>> boots
>>>> with the System drives only connected to IDE3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have now confirmed that I can add a formatted drive to IDE4 with out
>>>> any
>>>> boot
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> F8 bios list SCSI-0 as the boot device, this to me is the master on
>>>> IDE3..
>>>>
>>>> GA-8KNXP/GA-8I875 Ultra are similar boards and come with the same
>>>> manual.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the F2 Bios = the FB and the F8= the FH..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Its a pity that Gigabyte has not fixed this problem after all this
>>>> time,
>>>> may
>>>> be the New F9 bios that should be out soon will fix it..
>>>>
>>>> And its a big waste of time trying to talk to the Gigabyte Robot..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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