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AMD64 chips use Hypertransport. Much more efficient. Hyperthreading only
works with a few apps that are "Hyperthreading" aware. Photoshop is one.
with 95% of apps, you will get between 5 and 10 percent performance hit, due
to memory contention and long branch prediction errors. That is the reason
that Dell and Gateway ship their models with Hyperthreading disabled.
Hypertransport is a hardware solution, so no need to "enable" it. You
should load the Chip drivers and then enable Cool n' Quiet. That is a
technology that will throttle the CPU voltage and frequency on demand. It
is very effective and allows your computer to run much cooler and quieter
when it is performing tasks that are not CPU intensive.
Enjoy your new processor!
Bobby
"Simon Jefferies" <simon@cooltoolsonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I'd agree with everything you've said,
>
> The AMD have always been in my opinion cheaper and perform far better and
> give much more value for your money.
>
> On a side note, I bought the AMD64 3200+ with apparently Hyperthreading,
> but from some tests think it was using a program called Sandra or similar
> said I didn't have Hyperthreading?! Is there anything I need to do or is
> it only available in the 64-bit version of Windows?
>
> Regards
> Simon Jefferies
> mailto:simon[nospam]@cooltoolsonline.co.uk
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>
>
> "NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
> news:eRr5ob22EHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Anyone who would buy or build anything with a Pentium 4 in it at this
>> point is time should
>> have their head examined. The AMD64 runs cooler, is faster in most
>> applications, and is ready for the
>> 64 bit version of Windows. Add to that the vast superiority that
>> Hypertransport has over hyperthreading,
>> the on-die memory controller eliminating the traditional bottleneck of
>> the FSB...I could go on with numerous
>> other advantages, but there is a clearly superior technology here, and it
>> isn't Intel.
>> I personally have two AMD64 machines (3200+ and 4000+), and both of them
>> smoke my P4 machines
>> (3.02 and 3.4 GHz; both Hyperthreaded). I have built systems for myself
>> based on Intel Technology since the
>> early days of the P3, and I will probably never build another machine
>> based on an Intel chip.
>>
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>> "Simon Jefferies" <simon@cooltoolsonline.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23oWdnR22EHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just built my PC recently as I wanted something that could handle
>>> processing of a digital camcorder DV tapes to burning a DVD of it.
>>> Spacewise, I upgraded from an 80GB to a Maxtor Serial ATA 160GB like you
>>> mentioned and lets say there plenty available now!
>>>
>>> I went for an Athlon 64 3200+, (used to have an Athlon 2600+) as I
>>> wanted something that would last and reduce the process.
>>>
>>> Its all gone great although I've had problems with my Gigabyte
>>> motherboard not liking a perfectly good 512MB DDR 2700 memory and when
>>> installing XP it doesnt recognise the Serial ATA drive at all! Having to
>>> find a driver floppy disc to insert during installation! Proving
>>> troublesome as I didnt get one with the motherboard! Solution was to
>>> keep both my original IDE and Serial ATA inside and install Windows on
>>> my IDE and everything else on the Serial ATA drive until I've found the
>>> driver.
>>>
>>> I've gone for an XFX Geforce FX 5200 256MB, nothing amazing here, just
>>> wanted something that had a bit of grunt but not too expensive.
>>>
>>> I went for a 500W power supply as I had a lot of cards, fans and
>>> possible things that may get plugged in. Found ebay was useful here for
>>> these, and got a QTEC branded gold one
its quiet (ish).
>>>
>>> Overall, its quick and I always find its great PC to start with boots up
>>> in seconds until you start putting software on it and then the boot up
>>> time is obviously slower. But it doesnt hang around it seems to manage
>>> loading software without a problem and will give the DV->DVD burning a
>>> go soon. I would recommend at least 1GB of memory, I've got 512MB at the
>>> moment until I get my other 512 up and running. Its managing on it but I
>>> can soon see it all being used in the future!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> "Joe H" <JoeT@mailpuppy.com> wrote in message
>>> news:SoadnZiG8eS9eS7cRVn-3A@giganews.com...
>>>> Over the years I have put 4 together, and now 66 and going for my
>>>> most likely last one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm Really doing some research on my most likely last Home brew
>>>> computer.
>>>>
>>>> I have a DV 16.9 widescreen Mini canon Camcoder and a Cannon Digital
>>>> 4.1 Pixel still camera, so I'm looking for Processing speed when I
>>>> convert the Tape to making DVD compatible Movies. I'm using Pinnacle 9,
>>>> works good, but with my old Hard Drives and AMD 1.6 the wait is long
>>>> and the HD run's a long, long time.
>>>>
>>>> So Which CPU do you think for that work ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking the Maxtor SATA 160 gig so I can use the serial round
>>>> cables and a maybe 150 MBps transfer.
>>>> 400 watt power supply.
>>>>
>>>> 4- 51/4 slots, one being a Dock for Backup (Norton Ghost).
>>>>
>>>> Easy access case ????
>>>>
>>>> I was up to my Old Mutiwave site, but no free shipping, so need a good
>>>> reliable Wholesale Place ???
>>>>
>>>> I'm very serious here, as I'm going down hill on my breathing little by
>>>> little, but got to keep going.
>>>> Jan 16 will be three years without my 3 packs of Cigs a day, haven't
>>>> drank in almost 20 years, I got to spice things up a little you know !
>>>>
>>>> PS: I've seen the 3.4 Intel Cpu run and am not too Thrilled, and
>>>> leaning toward the AMD 64.???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> All In and Out Virus Scanned
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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