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GA-8KNXP + IT8212 RAID doesnt pass S.M.A.R.T. info

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December 22, 2004 8:03:28 PM

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I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the IT8212
RAID controller.
HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver 1.7.1.92.
Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a way ?

Regards Ronald
Anonymous
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December 23, 2004 6:38:01 AM

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"Ronald" <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote in message
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>I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the IT8212
>RAID controller.
> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver 1.7.1.92.
> Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a way ?
>
> Regards Ronald
The ITE controller is seen by the system as a scsi device
Regards
Denis
December 23, 2004 6:38:02 AM

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Denis Fitzgibbon wrote:
> "Ronald" <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:cqc5sk$1hi$1@reader13.wxs.nl...
>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>> way ?

> The ITE controller is seen by the system as a scsi device

True. And S.M.A.R.T. is a specific IDE feature right ? So it will never
work?
Bummer!

Ronald
Anonymous
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December 23, 2004 6:38:03 AM

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Ronald wrote:
> Denis Fitzgibbon wrote:
>> "Ronald" <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:cqc5sk$1hi$1@reader13.wxs.nl...
>>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>>> way ?
>
>> The ITE controller is seen by the system as a scsi device
>
> True. And S.M.A.R.T. is a specific IDE feature right ? So it will
> never work?
> Bummer!
>
> Ronald

However, like you I thought that SMART was not working, but recently when
one of my two drives on a RAID connector developed a 'SMART fault' an error
was logged in the windows XP event manager. Further checking following
booting from the Maxtor DOS utility disk, confirmed the SMART error.

John.
December 23, 2004 6:38:04 AM

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Bioboffin wrote:
> Ronald wrote:
>> Denis Fitzgibbon wrote:
>>> "Ronald" <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:cqc5sk$1hi$1@reader13.wxs.nl...
>>>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>>>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>>>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>>>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>>>> way ?
>>
>>> The ITE controller is seen by the system as a scsi device
>>
>> True. And S.M.A.R.T. is a specific IDE feature right ? So it will
>> never work?
>> Bummer!
>>
>> Ronald
>
> However, like you I thought that SMART was not working, but recently
> when one of my two drives on a RAID connector developed a 'SMART
> fault' an error was logged in the windows XP event manager. Further
> checking following booting from the Maxtor DOS utility disk,
> confirmed the SMART error.
> John.

Promissing !
Does this RAID contoller you are using show up in Windows XP device manager
as a SCSI/RAID controller or as an IDE controller?
What contoller is it, on board a GIGA mobo or a seperate adapter ?
Have you tried third party monitor programs if they can access the SMART
info? Speedfan 4.1x is my favourite, not alone for SMART info.

Regards, Ronald
Anonymous
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December 23, 2004 6:38:05 AM

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Ronald wrote:
> Bioboffin wrote:
>> Ronald wrote:
>>> Denis Fitzgibbon wrote:
>>>> "Ronald" <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote in
>>>> message news:cqc5sk$1hi$1@reader13.wxs.nl...
>>>>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>>>>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>>>>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>>>>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>>>>> way ?
>>>
>>>> The ITE controller is seen by the system as a scsi device
>>>
>>> True. And S.M.A.R.T. is a specific IDE feature right ? So it will
>>> never work?
>>> Bummer!
>>>
>>> Ronald
>>
>> However, like you I thought that SMART was not working, but recently
>> when one of my two drives on a RAID connector developed a 'SMART
>> fault' an error was logged in the windows XP event manager. Further
>> checking following booting from the Maxtor DOS utility disk,
>> confirmed the SMART error.
>> John.
>
> Promissing !
> Does this RAID contoller you are using show up in Windows XP device
> manager as a SCSI/RAID controller or as an IDE controller?
> What contoller is it, on board a GIGA mobo or a seperate adapter ?
> Have you tried third party monitor programs if they can access the
> SMART info? Speedfan 4.1x is my favourite, not alone for SMART info.
>
> Regards, Ronald

I'm using a GA-8KNXP revision 2. At the time I was using the ICH5R Sata RAID
controller, although now, for various reasons I have changed to the Silicon
Image controller. Both show(ed) up in Device Manager as SCSI disk device.
Both are on-board controllers. I haven't used third party monitor programs.
This is my home machine, which is reasonably well backed up (once a week),
and security is not my major consideration. If it were, I wouldn't use RAID
0. I regard the machine as one which I like to experiment on. It is very
stable, however.

John.
Anonymous
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December 23, 2004 6:53:05 AM

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
<ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:

>I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the IT8212
>RAID controller.

This <http://support.wdc.com/download/windlg/WinDLG.zip&gt; works on the
three WDs and one Seagate drives I have attached to the ITE controller
on my 8KNXP. .
Anonymous
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December 23, 2004 3:52:45 PM

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
<ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:

>I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the IT8212
>RAID controller.
>HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver 1.7.1.92.
>Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a way ?
>
>Regards Ronald
>



Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..

My Seagates work OK..

Try Speedfan and see what you get
December 24, 2004 9:09:23 PM

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FoggyBottom wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>
>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>
> This <http://support.wdc.com/download/windlg/WinDLG.zip&gt; works on the
> three WDs and one Seagate drives I have attached to the ITE controller
> on my 8KNXP. .

Tried it, no SMART status available
December 24, 2004 9:11:05 PM

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William Bell wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>
>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>> way ?
>>
>> Regards Ronald
>>
> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
>
> My Seagates work OK..
>
> Try Speedfan and see what you get

Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when drives are
attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the standard IDE
controller.
Anonymous
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December 25, 2004 3:31:23 PM

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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:11:05 +0100, "Ronald"
<ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:

>William Bell wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
>> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>>> way ?
>>>
>>> Regards Ronald
>>>
>> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
>>
>> My Seagates work OK..
>>
>> Try Speedfan and see what you get
>
>Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when drives are
>attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the standard IDE
>controller.
>



All my Drives are connected t the Raid controller and SMART works and so
does SpeedFan.



You are doing some thing Wrong..
Anonymous
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December 25, 2004 3:31:24 PM

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"William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
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| On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:11:05 +0100, "Ronald"
| <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
|
| >William Bell wrote:
| >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
| >> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
| >>
| >>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
| >>> IT8212 RAID controller.
| >>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
| >>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
| >>> way ?
| >>>
| >>> Regards Ronald
| >>>
| >> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
| >>
| >> My Seagates work OK..
| >>
| >> Try Speedfan and see what you get
| >
| >Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when drives are
| >attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the standard IDE
| >controller.
|
| All my Drives are connected t the Raid controller and SMART works and so
| does SpeedFan.
|
| You are doing some thing Wrong..

Are you running RAID0 or 1? I have two Raptors in RAID0 on the ICH5R
controller and I can't obtain SMART info. Is it possible to obtain SMART
info with two drives running as one?
Anonymous
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December 26, 2004 2:28:23 AM

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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:44:57 -0600, "Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:

>
>"William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
>news:si9ps0d3c6a5kos4gdgg9i6o1g1e86daff@4ax.com...
>
>| On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:11:05 +0100, "Ronald"
>| <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>|
>| >William Bell wrote:
>| >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
>| >> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>| >>
>| >>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>| >>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>| >>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>| >>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>| >>> way ?
>| >>>
>| >>> Regards Ronald
>| >>>
>| >> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
>| >>
>| >> My Seagates work OK..
>| >>
>| >> Try Speedfan and see what you get
>| >
>| >Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when drives are
>| >attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the standard IDE
>| >controller.
>|
>| All my Drives are connected t the Raid controller and SMART works and so
>| does SpeedFan.
>|
>| You are doing some thing Wrong..
>
>Are you running RAID0 or 1? I have two Raptors in RAID0 on the ICH5R
>controller and I can't obtain SMART info. Is it possible to obtain SMART
>info with two drives running as one?
>



I am only running them as IDE Drives, not Raid, also there is a SMART thing in
the Bios from memory.
December 26, 2004 2:28:24 AM

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William Bell wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:44:57 -0600, "Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
>> news:si9ps0d3c6a5kos4gdgg9i6o1g1e86daff@4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:11:05 +0100, "Ronald"
>>> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Bell wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
>>>>> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>>>>>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>>>>>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>>>>>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> way ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards Ronald
>>>>>>
>>>>> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
>>>>>
>>>>> My Seagates work OK..
>>>>>
>>>>> Try Speedfan and see what you get
>>>>
>>>> Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when
>>>> drives are attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the
>>>> standard IDE controller.
>>>
>>> All my Drives are connected t the Raid controller and SMART works
>>> and so does SpeedFan.
>>>
>>> You are doing some thing Wrong..
>>
>> Are you running RAID0 or 1? I have two Raptors in RAID0 on the ICH5R
>> controller and I can't obtain SMART info. Is it possible to obtain
>> SMART info with two drives running as one?
>>

> I am only running them as IDE Drives, not Raid, also there is a SMART
> thing in the Bios from memory.

That explains. My original question explicitely mentioned RAID.
Anonymous
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December 26, 2004 2:28:24 AM

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"William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
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| On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:44:57 -0600, "Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:
|
| >
| >"William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
| >news:si9ps0d3c6a5kos4gdgg9i6o1g1e86daff@4ax.com...
| >
| >| On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:11:05 +0100, "Ronald"
| >| <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
| >|
| >| >William Bell wrote:
| >| >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
| >| >> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
| >| >>
| >| >>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
| >| >>> IT8212 RAID controller.
| >| >>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
| >| >>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
| >| >>> way ?
| >| >>>
| >| >>> Regards Ronald
| >| >>>
| >| >> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
| >| >>
| >| >> My Seagates work OK..
| >| >>
| >| >> Try Speedfan and see what you get
| >| >
| >| >Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when drives
are
| >| >attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the standard IDE
| >| >controller.
| >|
| >| All my Drives are connected t the Raid controller and SMART works and
so
| >| does SpeedFan.
| >|
| >| You are doing some thing Wrong..
| >
| >Are you running RAID0 or 1? I have two Raptors in RAID0 on the ICH5R
| >controller and I can't obtain SMART info. Is it possible to obtain SMART
| >info with two drives running as one?
| >
|
| I am only running them as IDE Drives, not Raid, also there is a SMART
thing in
| the Bios from memory.

Before setting up RAID0 I was running one Raptor on the ICH5R (on-chip)
controller, and it would show SMART info. Why not move yours from the ITE
controller to ICH5R?
Anonymous
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December 26, 2004 4:46:18 PM

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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:28:13 +0100, "Ronald"
<ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:

>William Bell wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:44:57 -0600, "Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
>>> news:si9ps0d3c6a5kos4gdgg9i6o1g1e86daff@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:11:05 +0100, "Ronald"
>>>> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> William Bell wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
>>>>>> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>>>>>>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>>>>>>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>>>>>>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> way ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards Ronald
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Seagates work OK..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try Speedfan and see what you get
>>>>>
>>>>> Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when
>>>>> drives are attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the
>>>>> standard IDE controller.
>>>>
>>>> All my Drives are connected t the Raid controller and SMART works
>>>> and so does SpeedFan.
>>>>
>>>> You are doing some thing Wrong..
>>>
>>> Are you running RAID0 or 1? I have two Raptors in RAID0 on the ICH5R
>>> controller and I can't obtain SMART info. Is it possible to obtain
>>> SMART info with two drives running as one?
>>>
>
>> I am only running them as IDE Drives, not Raid, also there is a SMART
>> thing in the Bios from memory.
>
>That explains. My original question explicitely mentioned RAID.
>



I just can't see how that it can change any thing as I am using the same
driver..
Anonymous
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December 26, 2004 4:47:41 PM

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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:18:19 -0600, "Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:

>
>"William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
>news:h3gqs0tbpemgjimn9qus90ai0erj4qrnor@4ax.com...
>| On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:44:57 -0600, "Bob Davis" <iclicknix@cox.net> wrote:
>|
>| >
>| >"William Bell" <wbell@tinkle.com> wrote in message
>| >news:si9ps0d3c6a5kos4gdgg9i6o1g1e86daff@4ax.com...
>| >
>| >| On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:11:05 +0100, "Ronald"
>| >| <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>| >|
>| >| >William Bell wrote:
>| >| >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:28 +0100, "Ronald"
>| >| >> <ronald.van.der.graafNOSPAMJUNK@planet.nl> wrote:
>| >| >>
>| >| >>> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
>| >| >>> IT8212 RAID controller.
>| >| >>> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
>| >| >>> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
>| >| >>> way ?
>| >| >>>
>| >| >>> Regards Ronald
>| >| >>>
>| >| >> Maxtor don't have SMART from what I have read..
>| >| >>
>| >| >> My Seagates work OK..
>| >| >>
>| >| >> Try Speedfan and see what you get
>| >| >
>| >| >Maxtor's do have SMART. Speedfan doent give any readings when drives
>are
>| >| >attached to the RAID contoller. All works fine with the standard IDE
>| >| >controller.
>| >|
>| >| All my Drives are connected t the Raid controller and SMART works and
>so
>| >| does SpeedFan.
>| >|
>| >| You are doing some thing Wrong..
>| >
>| >Are you running RAID0 or 1? I have two Raptors in RAID0 on the ICH5R
>| >controller and I can't obtain SMART info. Is it possible to obtain SMART
>| >info with two drives running as one?
>| >
>|
>| I am only running them as IDE Drives, not Raid, also there is a SMART
>thing in
>| the Bios from memory.
>
>Before setting up RAID0 I was running one Raptor on the ICH5R (on-chip)
>controller, and it would show SMART info. Why not move yours from the ITE
>controller to ICH5R?
>



He could also try the latest Drivers like me..
Anonymous
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December 28, 2004 1:04:13 PM

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Ronald wrote:

> I can't get any S.M.A.R.T info off my IDE Maxtors attached to the
> IT8212 RAID controller.
> HD's support SMART. SMART is enabled on mobo. Have ITE driver
> 1.7.1.92. Is this lacking ITE driver support or does anyone know a
> way ?

I've never seen SMART work on hardware RAID configurations, though of course
that doesn't mean that it cannot. I suspect that part of the problem is that
to the OS the drives appear to be one drive - so which actual drive should
the controller pass the information on for?

/mel/
!