GA-8GPNXP Duo: some issues with IDE drives

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Hello,

I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
some issues with my IDE drives.

I connected:
- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector


I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.

The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.

I configured the BIOS like this:
- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
- GigaRAID Function [ATA]


* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.

* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.

I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.

Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
Please advise. Thank you.

Noël
 

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Am I being stupid or have you connected your drives to the Gigaraid instead
of the IDE controller? At the very least you must set Gigaraid to IDE mode
in BIOS.

"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
> some issues with my IDE drives.
>
> I connected:
> - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
> - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
> - 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
> - 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
>
>
> I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
> standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA
drives
> yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>
> The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
> The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>
> I configured the BIOS like this:
> - Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
> - On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
> - SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
> - On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
> - Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
> - GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>
>
> * After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives
are
> seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I
use
> and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>
> * Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
> feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>
> I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>
> Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my
settings
> and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the
BIOS.
> Please advise. Thank you.
>
> Noël
>
>
 
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Oh.......... I been there.
Well I forget most about how I ended up doing it exactly but ...........
I'm not sure on that board because it's slightly dif to mine but tell
me...........
Are there 3 connectors that fit the IDE connector cable?
Is one red & other 2 green?
While I await your response I'll just comment that the one red one is the
only "true" IDE one so connect the two optical drives to these & then you
need to connect the HD's to IDE 2.
You then need to go into the raid setup when booting & set it to (I think)
NORMAL or (I don't have the manual here!) is it JAOD?
See how you go & get back to me, but basically you need to set the raid up
but just use it as a normal disk.
You were right about booting from scsi.
If you are installing XP I just hope you installed the scsi driver at the
start of your XP installation?
If you didn't, you can put the HD & CD on the red (IDE) connector, install
XP & install the SCSI driver into it & THEN put it back on the other
channel.
Don't you just love gigabytes instructions?
Get back to us.............



"Ian" <dontspammeallthetime@stuffthespam.net> wrote in message
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> Am I being stupid or have you connected your drives to the Gigaraid
instead
> of the IDE controller? At the very least you must set Gigaraid to IDE
mode
> in BIOS.
>
> "Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:421a20e3$0$3123$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am
encountering
> > some issues with my IDE drives.
> >
> > I connected:
> > - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
> > - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
> > - 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
> > - 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
> >
> >
> > I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
> > standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA
> drives
> > yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
> >
> > The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
> > The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
> >
> > I configured the BIOS like this:
> > - Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
> > - On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
> > - SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
> > - On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
> > - Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
> > - GigaRAID Function [ATA]
> >
> >
> > * After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives
> are
> > seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I
> use
> > and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
> >
> > * Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
> > feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
> >
> > I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
> >
> > Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my
> settings
> > and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the
> BIOS.
> > Please advise. Thank you.
> >
> > Noël
> >
> >
>
>
 
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The controler is indeed configured to work as an ATAPI controler not a RAID
controler. It is supposed to support 2 IDE ports with 2 devices on each.

-nd
 
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Hello Bruce,

Thanks for your reply.

There are 3 connectors on the two IDE cables provided with the motherboard
so I plugged 2 devices on each of them.

When I set the GigaRAID controler to "ATA", I get a "GigaRAID ATAPI BIOS
V1.41" message during the boot so it should mean that the controler is
acting as a true IDE controler and it should be able to support 2 * 2
devices.

Whether I plug the optical drives to IDE3 or to IDE, the devices are not
seen and the PX-130 is constantly blinking. It does work though since I
successfully tested it on another PC and played a video DVD with it.

When I previously tried different settings I saw the PX-712A a few times
when plugged to IDE3 but I am not sure what the settings were. But I never
saw the PX-130A so there still is an issue.

There does not seem to be a setup when the GigaRAID is configured as an
ATAPI controler.

I was not able to install XP yet since I cannot use my DVD drive.

Thanks.
--
Noël
 
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
>some issues with my IDE drives.
>
>I connected:
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector

Why do you have the above on IDE2? Why not on IDE1 or 3 (or 4??)

>- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
>- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector

Opinion: not a good idea (the above). I suggest you use IDE2.

>
>
>I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
>standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
>yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>
>The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
>The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>
>I configured the BIOS like this:
>- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
>- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
>- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
>- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
>- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
>- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>
>
>* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
>seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
>and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>
>* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
>feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>
>I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>
>Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
>and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
>Please advise. Thank you.
>
>Noël
>

I don't own one of these boards BUT I have several 7N400 Pro2's and
in my experiences with this board, I would suggets that "it's not a
good idea" to have CD/DVD (etc.) drives installed 'past' IDE1+2.

I briefly EXPERIMENTED once with them (two drives) on IDE3 and they
SEEMED to work to 'point'. I could at least READ disks in them BUT I
could NOT BOOT from them (eg. to install an OS). However I did not
exhaustively test...

What I might suggest is try and configure your HW so that the two
Maxtors are on IDE3 and the two Plextors are in IDE2 and see if that
doesn't help get you where you want to go.

You didn't 'say' what's on IDE1??? (unless I missed it). What are you
using it for?
 
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
>some issues with my IDE drives.
>
>I connected:
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
>- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
>- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
>
>
>I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
>standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
>yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>
>The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
>The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>
>I configured the BIOS like this:
>- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
>- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
>- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
>- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
>- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
>- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>
>
>* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
>seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
>and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>
>* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
>feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>
>I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>
>Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
>and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
>Please advise. Thank you.
>
>Noël
>
According to Gigabyte, and to ITE, the implimentation on the Pro2 does
NOT support optical drives

As for other statements, ALL of the controllers will support ATA 6,
provided, you have a good 80 pin cable, AND you have just ATA 6.

My suggestion is that you move the primary drives (Maxtors) to IDE 1
put the Opticals on IDE 2

any additional drives can be plugged into IDE 3 or IDE 4



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Hello,

I did not plug my disks on IDE1 because it is only ATA66/100 while my disks
are ATA133.

I tried to connect the two Maxtors to IDE3 and the two Plextors to IDE2 but
to no avail. Both Maxtors detected but none of the Plextors.

Now I replaced the Plextor PX-130A with my old Plextor CD-ROM PlexWriter
PX-2410. I plugged my 2 Maxtors on IDE2 and the PX-2410 and the PX-712A on
IDE3.

The 2 Maxtors are detected and the PX-2410 is also detected but not the
PX-712A.

Why would the controllers only accept CD-ROM drives and not DVD-ROM drives?
Could this be a compatibility issue of some kind?

I placed a bootable Windows XP CD in the plextor. After the "Please wait for
IDE scan" and I got a message saying "a bootable CD found" but I did not
find a way to start it. Is there a key to hit?

Now I tried to plug the two Plextors PX-2410 and PX-712A to IDE1 and I was
able to boot from CD and to start the installation. I don't see the boot
screen (where there is "DualBIOS") may be it is too fast? So I cannot say if
the drives are listed there but I'd think so.

When the PX-2410 is plugged to IDE1, in Setup > "Standard CMOS feature" >
"IDE HDD Auto-detection" the PlexWriter does appear but not the PX-712A.

I tried to start a XP installation from the CD, I hit F6 when the Setup told
me but it asked for a manufacturer CD. I am not sure yet if the drivers are
provided on the CD included with the motherboard.

It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen as a real IDE
controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller.

Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

Noël
 
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OK, sorry I been a while getting back to you but our clocks are dif to
yours!!!
Seems you have heaps of differing advice so not much point in confusing you
more.
Like I said. the board I was involved with was a dif one but same problem.
When you try all the other suggestions & if they don't work, contact me?
1. Forget about what you see of the flash screen & in bios. It doesn't show
SCSI or RAID. It will still work.
2. Put your optical drives on IDE 1.
3. Put your HD's on IDE 2.
4. Config IDE 2 as a raid. (normal)
5. Install raid driver.
6. Set bios to boot from SCSI.
7. Set to boot from HD (1 or 2)
OK, that is how it will finish up, but to get there I found it easier to
start with CD & HD ONLY on IDE1 channel & install XP, then install SCSI
driver, then put drives where I said & setup bios to suit.
Let me know?



"WillieNillie" <willienillie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
> <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
> >some issues with my IDE drives.
> >
> >I connected:
> >- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
> >- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
> >- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
> >- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
> >
> >
> >I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
> >standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA
drives
> >yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
> >
> >The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
> >The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
> >
> >I configured the BIOS like this:
> >- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
> >- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
> >- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
> >- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
> >- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
> >- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
> >
> >
> >* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives
are
> >seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I
use
> >and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
> >
> >* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
> >feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
> >
> >I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
> >
> >Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my
settings
> >and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the
BIOS.
> >Please advise. Thank you.
> >
> >Noël
> >
> According to Gigabyte, and to ITE, the implimentation on the Pro2 does
> NOT support optical drives
>
> As for other statements, ALL of the controllers will support ATA 6,
> provided, you have a good 80 pin cable, AND you have just ATA 6.
>
> My suggestion is that you move the primary drives (Maxtors) to IDE 1
> put the Opticals on IDE 2
>
> any additional drives can be plugged into IDE 3 or IDE 4
>
>
>
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I was referring to connectors for plugging the cables into the board?



"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:421af586$0$25039$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Hello Bruce,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> There are 3 connectors on the two IDE cables provided with the motherboard
> so I plugged 2 devices on each of them.
>
> When I set the GigaRAID controler to "ATA", I get a "GigaRAID ATAPI BIOS
> V1.41" message during the boot so it should mean that the controler is
> acting as a true IDE controler and it should be able to support 2 * 2
> devices.
>
> Whether I plug the optical drives to IDE3 or to IDE, the devices are not
> seen and the PX-130 is constantly blinking. It does work though since I
> successfully tested it on another PC and played a video DVD with it.
>
> When I previously tried different settings I saw the PX-712A a few times
> when plugged to IDE3 but I am not sure what the settings were. But I never
> saw the PX-130A so there still is an issue.
>
> There does not seem to be a setup when the GigaRAID is configured as an
> ATAPI controler.
>
> I was not able to install XP yet since I cannot use my DVD drive.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Noël
>
>
 
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:49:01 -0500, WillieNillie
<willienillie@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
><webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
>>some issues with my IDE drives.
>>
>>I connected:
>>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
>>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
>>- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
>>- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
>>
>>
>>I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
>>standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
>>yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>>
>>The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
>>The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>>
>>I configured the BIOS like this:
>>- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
>>- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
>>- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
>>- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
>>- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
>>- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>>
>>
>>* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
>>seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
>>and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>>
>>* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
>>feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>>
>>I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>>
>>Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
>>and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
>>Please advise. Thank you.
>>
>>Noël
>>
>According to Gigabyte, and to ITE, the implimentation on the Pro2 does
>NOT support optical drives
>
>As for other statements, ALL of the controllers will support ATA 6,
>provided, you have a good 80 pin cable, AND you have just ATA 6.
>
>My suggestion is that you move the primary drives (Maxtors) to IDE 1
>put the Opticals on IDE 2
>
>any additional drives can be plugged into IDE 3 or IDE 4
>
>
Agree!
>
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If this is happening "It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen
as a real IDE
controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller." then you have the ITE
(? could it be the other SATA controller?) controller configured as RAID.

The ITE controller has had several drivers and supporting bios versions.
With one at least the controller will act as an ATA only controller with
support for CD's etc. A counterpart driver exists that will do only RAID.
Perhaps this is tied in with the BIOS firmware for the ITE I.E. maybe it is
acting only as a RAID (SCSI) controller when enabled and the bios options
are not reflecting this limitation. Just a theory.

Forget about the transfer rate for your disc drives. The achieved difference
between ATA 133 and 100 is negligable. Put all your peripherals on the stock
standard IDE controllers built in and avoid the ITE. You still had enabled
in the bios the OnChip SATA RAID - this too can be disabled. I.E. try and
create a very plain old fashioned IDE setup and disable all RAID and other
controllers that are not needed.

General rule of thumb: IDE discs in the 1st IDE port, CD's / DVD's in second
port. Place the faster / more modern optical drive as Master and the older
as Slave. Check your jumpers. Master in the end of the cable, Slave in the
middle.

(OK so a lot of people will say this is unnecessary, but if you have it
setup like that NO ONE will argue with you).

If you still have trouble getting this going then, since you are doing an
install (?) install the IDE Master drive on the 1st channel and the DVD
Reader as master on the second and leave out all other peripherals that
aren't essential. When XP is up and running, add the peripherals in one at a
time checking first the bios to see that things are sensible, then boot into
XP to confirm the devices come up 100%.

HTH & BOL & Enjoy.




"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I did not plug my disks on IDE1 because it is only ATA66/100 while my
> disks are ATA133.
>
> I tried to connect the two Maxtors to IDE3 and the two Plextors to IDE2
> but to no avail. Both Maxtors detected but none of the Plextors.
>
> Now I replaced the Plextor PX-130A with my old Plextor CD-ROM PlexWriter
> PX-2410. I plugged my 2 Maxtors on IDE2 and the PX-2410 and the PX-712A on
> IDE3.
>
> The 2 Maxtors are detected and the PX-2410 is also detected but not the
> PX-712A.
>
> Why would the controllers only accept CD-ROM drives and not DVD-ROM
> drives? Could this be a compatibility issue of some kind?
>
> I placed a bootable Windows XP CD in the plextor. After the "Please wait
> for IDE scan" and I got a message saying "a bootable CD found" but I did
> not find a way to start it. Is there a key to hit?
>
> Now I tried to plug the two Plextors PX-2410 and PX-712A to IDE1 and I was
> able to boot from CD and to start the installation. I don't see the boot
> screen (where there is "DualBIOS") may be it is too fast? So I cannot say
> if the drives are listed there but I'd think so.
>
> When the PX-2410 is plugged to IDE1, in Setup > "Standard CMOS feature" >
> "IDE HDD Auto-detection" the PlexWriter does appear but not the PX-712A.
>
> I tried to start a XP installation from the CD, I hit F6 when the Setup
> told me but it asked for a manufacturer CD. I am not sure yet if the
> drivers are provided on the CD included with the motherboard.
>
> It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen as a real IDE
> controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller.
>
> Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
>
> Noël
>
>
 

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ALL additional (i.e. not IDE1/2) IDE controllers are shown as SCSI
controllers in Windows. It's just the way it's done. The disks attached to
these will show as SCSI disks, even though they are obviously not.
Incidentally, the only way to check that they are in Mode6 (ATA133) is
usually on the boot up display message. You won't get this info in Device
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:38:06 +1300, "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote:

>If this is happening "It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen
>as a real IDE
>controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller." then you have the ITE
>(? could it be the other SATA controller?) controller configured as RAID.
>
>The ITE controller has had several drivers and supporting bios versions.
>With one at least the controller will act as an ATA only controller with
>support for CD's etc. A counterpart driver exists that will do only RAID.
>Perhaps this is tied in with the BIOS firmware for the ITE I.E. maybe it is
>acting only as a RAID (SCSI) controller when enabled and the bios options
>are not reflecting this limitation. Just a theory.
>
>Forget about the transfer rate for your disc drives. The achieved difference
>between ATA 133 and 100 is negligable. Put all your peripherals on the stock
>standard IDE controllers built in and avoid the ITE.

AGREE.You will not NOTICE (subjectively) ANY DIFFERENCE in perf
between ATA 100 and ATA 133. In fact, it's difficult to even MEASURE
in many benchmarks since these are BURST transfer rates and the diff
tends to only be even MEASUREABLE if the data you happen to need is in
the DISKS CACHE and only needs to be XFERRED to Memory.

If the data needs to be scooped up off a platter... no gain.
Bottleneck here; can't do it fast enough in general to keep the cache
full so no gain.

>You still had enabled
>in the bios the OnChip SATA RAID - this too can be disabled. I.E. try and
>create a very plain old fashioned IDE setup and disable all RAID and other
>controllers that are not needed.

Agree.
>
>General rule of thumb: IDE discs in the 1st IDE port, CD's / DVD's in second
>port. Place the faster / more modern optical drive as Master and the older
>as Slave. Check your jumpers. Master in the end of the cable, Slave in the
>middle.
>
Agree.

>(OK so a lot of people will say this is unnecessary, but if you have it
>setup like that NO ONE will argue with you).
>
>If you still have trouble getting this going then, since you are doing an
>install (?) install the IDE Master drive on the 1st channel and the DVD
>Reader as master on the second and leave out all other peripherals that
>aren't essential. When XP is up and running, add the peripherals in one at a
>time
(Agree)
>
checking first the bios to see that things are sensible, then boot
into
>XP to confirm the devices come up 100%.
>
>HTH & BOL & Enjoy.
>
>
>
>
>"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:421b512c$0$827$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I did not plug my disks on IDE1 because it is only ATA66/100 while my
>> disks are ATA133.
>>
>> I tried to connect the two Maxtors to IDE3 and the two Plextors to IDE2
>> but to no avail. Both Maxtors detected but none of the Plextors.
>>
>> Now I replaced the Plextor PX-130A with my old Plextor CD-ROM PlexWriter
>> PX-2410. I plugged my 2 Maxtors on IDE2 and the PX-2410 and the PX-712A on
>> IDE3.
>>
>> The 2 Maxtors are detected and the PX-2410 is also detected but not the
>> PX-712A.
>>
>> Why would the controllers only accept CD-ROM drives and not DVD-ROM
>> drives? Could this be a compatibility issue of some kind?
>>
>> I placed a bootable Windows XP CD in the plextor. After the "Please wait
>> for IDE scan" and I got a message saying "a bootable CD found" but I did
>> not find a way to start it. Is there a key to hit?
>>
>> Now I tried to plug the two Plextors PX-2410 and PX-712A to IDE1 and I was
>> able to boot from CD and to start the installation. I don't see the boot
>> screen (where there is "DualBIOS") may be it is too fast? So I cannot say
>> if the drives are listed there but I'd think so.
>>
>> When the PX-2410 is plugged to IDE1, in Setup > "Standard CMOS feature" >
>> "IDE HDD Auto-detection" the PlexWriter does appear but not the PX-712A.
>>
>> I tried to start a XP installation from the CD, I hit F6 when the Setup
>> told me but it asked for a manufacturer CD. I am not sure yet if the
>> drivers are provided on the CD included with the motherboard.
>>
>> It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen as a real IDE
>> controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller.
>>
>> Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
>>
>> Noël
>>
>>
>
 

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No. That is not true.

It depends on the device and how it is configured. For example, add in PCI
IDE controllers will usually appear as IDE controllers. It depends on the
manufacturer to a large extent. Add in RAID controllers will appear most
usually as SCSI RAID - but not always. On board or On chip controllers may
appear as IDE or SCSI or either depending on the BIOS settings - see the
Intel ICH5R for an example. It can change itself from an 82801EB controller
(IDE) to an 82801ER controller via 1 bios setting.

The reason why SATA (and IDE sometimes) RAID controllers appear as SCSI is
that that is the type of interface the manufacturer has chosen to present.
SCSI has advantages even if the underlying device is IDE (or SATA) as it
supports overlapped (async) IO at the Controller Level which offloads this
task from the OS and in the case of Windows this reduces IO stalls because
the device is already busy (in basic terms - its not like this at all but
the gist is whats important). SATA is now supporting with NCQ these types of
features as standard.

- Tim


"Ian" <dontspammeallthetime@stuffthespam.net> wrote in message
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> ALL additional (i.e. not IDE1/2) IDE controllers are shown as SCSI
> controllers in Windows. It's just the way it's done. The disks attached to
> these will show as SCSI disks, even though they are obviously not.
> Incidentally, the only way to check that they are in Mode6 (ATA133) is
> usually on the boot up display message. You won't get this info in Device
> manager with the additional controller/s.
>
>
 
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Thank you all for your suggestions and informations. I still did not get a
reply from the local GigaByte support.

I did disable the SATA controller after posting my message sorry for not
mentioning it.

I did try to plug the HDDs to IDE1 and the optical drives to IDE2 to no
avail. The optical drives are still not detected.

I am fed up with the IDE troubles and I now decided to order new SATA drives
instead and to fully disable IDE H/W on the board. Hopefully this will work
and with Windows XP SP1a CD I should not need any diskette to install the
system and to detect all my drives.

Thank you all.
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Sorry to see that you took so much notice of others.
Optical drives NEED to be on the ONLY true IDE channel. (IDE 1)
Did you read that page I sent the address to?
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1660&page=4
All you experts who recommended him to put his HD's on IDE 1 ought to buy
one of these boards & try doing it before they give out advice.
ps. Even with you using SATA drives you will need to STILL put your optical
drives on IDE 1. (The green socket on the m/board)

"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Thank you all for your suggestions and informations. I still did not get a
> reply from the local GigaByte support.
>
> I did disable the SATA controller after posting my message sorry for not
> mentioning it.
>
> I did try to plug the HDDs to IDE1 and the optical drives to IDE2 to no
> avail. The optical drives are still not detected.
>
> I am fed up with the IDE troubles and I now decided to order new SATA
drives
> instead and to fully disable IDE H/W on the board. Hopefully this will
work
> and with Windows XP SP1a CD I should not need any diskette to install the
> system and to detect all my drives.
>
> Thank you all.
> --
> Noël
>
>
 
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:01:07 +1030, "BruceM" <bruce@@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Sorry to see that you took so much notice of others.
>Optical drives NEED to be on the ONLY true IDE channel. (IDE 1)

Not saying that you are wrong IN THIS CASE (with this MB) because
'anythng's possible' BUT I just thought I would say that I've never
seen or heard of an MB with two IDE Controllers (numbered 1+2) that
REQUIRED 'optical drives' to be installed on IDE ***1***.

In every case I've ever seen or heard of, EITHER IDE 1 OR 2 would be
O.K. and the VAST majority of people wind up installing optical drives
either as IDE 1 'Slave' or IDE 2 Master or Slave.

In all of the implementations of EXTRA IDE controllers I've seen (IDE
3+4), I've never come across one that did not advise AGAINST
installing optical drives 'above' IDE 2.

>Did you read that page I sent the address to?
>http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1660&page=4
>All you experts who recommended him to put his HD's on IDE 1 ought to buy
>one of these boards & try doing it before they give out advice.

Again: don't want to start a 'war' here and you MAY be right with this
particular board; but all I can say is that I would be very SURPRISED
if what you've said is true. (Unless you are starting the IDE Count at
IDE 0.

>ps. Even with you using SATA drives you will need to STILL put your optical
>drives on IDE 1. (The green socket on the m/board)

I agree that going SATA will virtually certainly make no difference/be
a probable waste of money.

>
>"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:421c935f$0$19318$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> Thank you all for your suggestions and informations. I still did not get a
>> reply from the local GigaByte support.
>>
>> I did disable the SATA controller after posting my message sorry for not
>> mentioning it.
>>
>> I did try to plug the HDDs to IDE1 and the optical drives to IDE2 to no
>> avail. The optical drives are still not detected.
>>
>> I am fed up with the IDE troubles and I now decided to order new SATA
>drives
>> instead and to fully disable IDE H/W on the board. Hopefully this will
>work
>> and with Windows XP SP1a CD I should not need any diskette to install the
>> system and to detect all my drives.
>>
>> Thank you all.
>> --
>> Noël
>>
>>
>

Bottom line: IMO/to try and resolve the problem.

1. Install ONE IDE drive as IDE 1 Master and get it recognized by the
system at boot time.

2. Install ONLY ONE Optical drive as IDE 2 Master (try with/without
cable select) and see if you can't configure to get it recognized.

3. If '2' doesn't work. Try again as IDE 2 Slave.

4. If '3' doesn't work, try '2' + '3 again with a DIFFERRENT
problematic optical drive.

5. If '4' doesn't work, try'2' and '3' again with a DIFFERENT 'known
good' optical drive and see if you can't get THAT to work.

6. If '5' doesn't work, THEN I think IDE 2 might be bad. (Though I
doubt it since the HDs worked.

7. 'My gut' tells me, since the hisn two optical drives are the same
make/model, unless he''s doing something wrong that he/we've missed,
the problem may simply be a 'fundamental incompatibilty' between that
specific make/model/firware rev. of optical drive and that MB/it's IDE
implementation.

I've been building and troubleshooting PCs since 1986 and 'Boy', I've
seen some wierd stuff. 'Stff that is supposed to work but just
doesn't.. I've seen a LOT in 'fundamental incompatibilites' between
IDE devices (eg. IDE HDs) that sinply didn't LIKE being on the same
IDE controller with each other (ie. as master and slave) and even in
one case where an IDE HD would not work AT ALL in in system with ANY
other HD on ANY other controller.

And boy have I seen problems trying to get TWO (even identical)
optical deices to work on the same controller.

His bottom lline here IS (and again UNLESS as you claim that optical
drives MUST be installed on IDE 1 is true), that IF

(a) he can get AN EXAMPLE of SOME Optical Drive KNOWN to be good (that
works in some other computer) to WORK on IDE 2 (as master or slave,

(b) THEN that says that the HW, BIOS, etc. config is O.K. so THEN

(c) if he subs in ONE of HIS problematic drives on that same
controller/cable end point, etc. THEN

(d) if THAT doesn't work, IMO it may simple be a 'fundamental
incompatibility' (assuming his problematic optical drive(s) work
elsewhere bettween those drive and his MB.

I's rare, but it happens....

(A few months ago, I encountered a situation with MY personal
workstation where a Maxtor IDE HD that had been working for ^ MONTHS
as IDE 3 Slave (on a 7N400 Pro2) with 3 other WD drives as IDE 3M
and IDE 4 M+S decided to simply stop working 'together' with those
drives.

My system would simply NOT boot past/hang at the IDE 3+4 device
autodetection stage. After 6 months of being O.K.

In the end, I solved the problem by subbing in a new WD at IDE 3
Slave.

Yet there was NO problem with the Maxtor. It's installed in another PC
and it's been working fine...

PCs are wierd....
 
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Hello all,

Thanks again for all your support and detailed suggestions.

Yes I did read the page at pcstats.com. Thanks for the link.

The only connector of the true IDE is pink on this MB. The two IDE/RAID
ports are green.

There is "only" 3 IDE channels on this MB. IDE (the true IDE port) and
IDE2/IDE3 the two ports of the RAID/ATA controller. There is no IDE0 or
IDE4. IDE1 (channel 0) is simply called IDE while the RAID ports are IDE2
and IDE3.

I think I did try all the possible configurations, HDD and optical drives on
either IDE or IDE 2/IDE3. Either HDDs on the lowest port and optical drives
on the next one or the opposite. To no avail with the PX-130 and PX-712. I
just did not try to mix HDD (master) and optical drive (slave) per channel
but I am not sure it is worth trying.

On another hand, the PX-W2412 is detected on *any* of the IDE ports, either
IDE, IDE2 or IDE3 like the HDDs. The only drawback of connecting the
PX-W2412 to IDE2 or IDE3 is that I cannot boot from it while the ATAPI BIOS
detects that the CD-ROM is bootable. May be there is a key but I am not
sure.

I ordered two SATA HDD and two SATA DVD writers (I could not find a SATA
DVD-ROM) so all my drives will now be SATA so that I can possibly disabled
all IDE features in the BIOS.

It seems like a device incompatibility to me or a possible bug in the BIOS
or whatever. I know the drives are correctly set to master/slave on every
channel. I built and tweaked tens of PCs as well.

I cannot waste anymore time on those IDE issues. I just hope I am not
wasting my money as well buying those SATA devices.

Thanks again for all your help. I will let you know how it goes with the
SATA devices.

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:55:42 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Thanks again for all your support and detailed suggestions.
>
>Yes I did read the page at pcstats.com. Thanks for the link.
>
>The only connector of the true IDE is pink on this MB. The two IDE/RAID
>ports are green.
>
>There is "only" 3 IDE channels on this MB. IDE (the true IDE port) and
>IDE2/IDE3 the two ports of the RAID/ATA controller. There is no IDE0 or
>IDE4. IDE1 (channel 0) is simply called IDE while the RAID ports are IDE2
>and IDE3.
>
>I think I did try all the possible configurations, HDD and optical drives on
>either IDE or IDE 2/IDE3. Either HDDs on the lowest port and optical drives
>on the next one or the opposite. To no avail with the PX-130 and PX-712. I
>just did not try to mix HDD (master) and optical drive (slave) per channel
>but I am not sure it is worth trying.
>
>On another hand, the PX-W2412 is detected on *any* of the IDE ports, either
>IDE, IDE2 or IDE3 like the HDDs. The only drawback of connecting the
>PX-W2412 to IDE2 or IDE3 is that I cannot boot from it while the ATAPI BIOS
>detects that the CD-ROM is bootable. May be there is a key but I am not
>sure.
>
>I ordered two SATA HDD and two SATA DVD writers (I could not find a SATA
>DVD-ROM) so all my drives will now be SATA so that I can possibly disabled
>all IDE features in the BIOS.
>
>It seems like a device incompatibility to me or a possible bug in the BIOS
>or whatever. I know the drives are correctly set to master/slave on every
>channel. I built and tweaked tens of PCs as well.
>
>I cannot waste anymore time on those IDE issues. I just hope I am not
>wasting my money as well buying those SATA devices.
>
>Thanks again for all your help. I will let you know how it goes with the
>SATA devices.

Hmmm. I guess I could be legitimately criticized for not researching
the specs of the particular MB before I commented but... "So much to
do, SO LITTLE TIME..."""

INTERESTING!

This is the first MB I've come across with only one 'normal' (instead
of two 'normal') IDE ports. A NEW TREND....???

Anyway, explains a lot of things/why you were trying to do what you
were.

Taking your latest response into consideration, I would
(unfortunately) pressimistically have to predict that moveing to SATA
drives in and of themselves will not do anything!!! I mean, if there
is NO WAY to get your optical drives (even ONE) recognized on IDE1,
then I things it maye well be come kind of fundamental incompatibility
between your MB and (at least) YOUR particular optical drives, if not
'in general'...

Sound like your ONLY option is to (at least PARTLY) try and get some
NEW writers, EITHER IDE or SATA that will work on IDE1 or SATA. If you
could get SATA writers that worked, then you could still use IDE1 for
HDs....

BUT what you're proposing (also getting SATA drives) should hopefully
give you 'in total' a way to get a working system...

Good Luck!!!!

And PS: Let us know how things work out.
 
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Hello all,

I received my SATA drives and I installed them today. It's better but still
not perfect!

I first plugged my 4 drives 2 * Maxtor 80GB SATA and 2 * Plextor PX-712SA.

I plugged the 1st HDD on SATA1 (ch0, master), the second on SATA3 (ch0,
slave), the 1st writer on SATA2 (ch1, master) and 2nd writer on SATA4 (ch1,
slave).

I configured the BIOS like this:
- Disabled both On-Chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Non-combined"

Since the disks are brand-new I wanted to boot off a Windows XP SP1 CD but
in this configuration, the bootable CD was not detected and I got message
like "System Disk not found. Press Enter". Sorry I don't remember the exact
message.

I then tried to set "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" to AHCI, it is said that it is to
support hotplug but I don't know what else it does. So when I set this
option the bootable CD was seen (i.e. the DVD drives are detected in SATA!
pfff)

When I hit a key, the bootable CD starts, the Windows Setup begins but after
the Setup is done loading the drivers I get a BSOD:

STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78DA63C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

Out of curiosity, I tried my Longhorn alpha preview CD and I got about the
same result.

The BIOS was set to boot like this:
1. Floppy
2. CD-ROM
3. Hard Disk

There is no option to boot from "SATA".

Any ideas how to fix this?

Since I could not boot off the CD, I had to put back my IDE HDD and remove
the SATA drives (while I still don't have a fix) so that I could install my
system.

In the BIOS I set the options like this:
- Enabled the On-chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Enhanced"
Ch0 -> M/S PATA
Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 0/2
Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 1/3


I connected my IDE HDDs to the true IDE connector (pink) and that way I can
use Windows and use my two SATA DVD writers.

It's almost OK but I still cannot boot from my CD/DVD without the BSOD and
now I'd like to be able to install Windows XP and LH on my SATA 80GB HDDs so
that I can disable all the IDE ports and only work with SATA.

Also I still don't see the POST screen, I wonder why. Is it an issue with
BIOS V. F6?

Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:08:31 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I received my SATA drives and I installed them today. It's better but still
>not perfect!
>
>I first plugged my 4 drives 2 * Maxtor 80GB SATA and 2 * Plextor PX-712SA.
>
>I plugged the 1st HDD on SATA1 (ch0, master), the second on SATA3 (ch0,
>slave), the 1st writer on SATA2 (ch1, master) and 2nd writer on SATA4 (ch1,
>slave).
>
>I configured the BIOS like this:
>- Disabled both On-Chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
>- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
>- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
>- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Non-combined"
>
>Since the disks are brand-new I wanted to boot off a Windows XP SP1 CD but
>in this configuration, the bootable CD was not detected and I got message
>like "System Disk not found. Press Enter". Sorry I don't remember the exact
>message.
>
>I then tried to set "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" to AHCI, it is said that it is to
>support hotplug but I don't know what else it does. So when I set this
>option the bootable CD was seen (i.e. the DVD drives are detected in SATA!
>pfff)
>
>When I hit a key, the bootable CD starts, the Windows Setup begins but after
>the Setup is done loading the drivers I get a BSOD:
>
>STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78DA63C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
>
>Out of curiosity, I tried my Longhorn alpha preview CD and I got about the
>same result.
>
>The BIOS was set to boot like this:
>1. Floppy
>2. CD-ROM
>3. Hard Disk
>
>There is no option to boot from "SATA".
>
>Any ideas how to fix this?
>
>Since I could not boot off the CD, I had to put back my IDE HDD and remove
>the SATA drives (while I still don't have a fix) so that I could install my
>system.
>
>In the BIOS I set the options like this:
>- Enabled the On-chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
>- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
>- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
>- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Enhanced"
> Ch0 -> M/S PATA
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 0/2
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 1/3
>
>
>I connected my IDE HDDs to the true IDE connector (pink) and that way I can
>use Windows and use my two SATA DVD writers.
>
>It's almost OK but I still cannot boot from my CD/DVD without the BSOD and
>now I'd like to be able to install Windows XP and LH on my SATA 80GB HDDs so
>that I can disable all the IDE ports and only work with SATA.
>
>Also I still don't see the POST screen, I wonder why. Is it an issue with
>BIOS V. F6?
>
>Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

You're getting into areas/technology now (with the MB and SATA
opticals) that I've had no experience with so I can't help you much.

But, one idea: have you considered trying to install the OS by GIVING
UP on the idea of BOOTING (the OS Install CD) from an optical drive
and instead try booting up from an XP Install ***DISKETTE*** set?

It's not clear to me if you simply can't BOOT from an optical here OR
you can't/WON'T be able to 'see' it at all (from an OS) if you get one
installed.

If 'booting' is the only problem, THIS workaround MAY enable you to
get up and running at least.
 

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So has anyone been able to make this motherboard work correctly? I
have tried switching from IDE 1 to 2, etc, back and forth, I have all
IDE hard drives and I cant seems to make this thing work. Any
suggestions? PLEASE HELP!!
 

Tim

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Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte (More info?)

The stop message (7B - Inaccessiable boot device) most likely means you did
not supply the SATA drives using F6 during setup.
The drivers are invariably on the motherboard CD and you will need to create
an install floppy - the method will be detailed in the manual. Consider
checking the web site for a more recent driver set to save updating later.

My apologies for falling into the trap and assuming that you mobo had two
real IDE ports... Times are changing.

- Tim

"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:4220bc1b$0$19336$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Hello all,
>
> I received my SATA drives and I installed them today. It's better but
> still not perfect!
>
> I first plugged my 4 drives 2 * Maxtor 80GB SATA and 2 * Plextor PX-712SA.
>
> I plugged the 1st HDD on SATA1 (ch0, master), the second on SATA3 (ch0,
> slave), the 1st writer on SATA2 (ch1, master) and 2nd writer on SATA4
> (ch1, slave).
>
> I configured the BIOS like this:
> - Disabled both On-Chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
> - Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
> - Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
> - Set On-chip SATA mode to "Non-combined"
>
> Since the disks are brand-new I wanted to boot off a Windows XP SP1 CD but
> in this configuration, the bootable CD was not detected and I got message
> like "System Disk not found. Press Enter". Sorry I don't remember the
> exact message.
>
> I then tried to set "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" to AHCI, it is said that it is
> to support hotplug but I don't know what else it does. So when I set this
> option the bootable CD was seen (i.e. the DVD drives are detected in SATA!
> pfff)
>
> When I hit a key, the bootable CD starts, the Windows Setup begins but
> after the Setup is done loading the drivers I get a BSOD:
>
> STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78DA63C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
>
> Out of curiosity, I tried my Longhorn alpha preview CD and I got about the
> same result.
>
> The BIOS was set to boot like this:
> 1. Floppy
> 2. CD-ROM
> 3. Hard Disk
>
> There is no option to boot from "SATA".
>
> Any ideas how to fix this?
>
> Since I could not boot off the CD, I had to put back my IDE HDD and remove
> the SATA drives (while I still don't have a fix) so that I could install
> my system.
>
> In the BIOS I set the options like this:
> - Enabled the On-chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
> - Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
> - Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
> - Set On-chip SATA mode to "Enhanced"
> Ch0 -> M/S PATA
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 0/2
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 1/3
>
>
> I connected my IDE HDDs to the true IDE connector (pink) and that way I
> can use Windows and use my two SATA DVD writers.
>
> It's almost OK but I still cannot boot from my CD/DVD without the BSOD and
> now I'd like to be able to install Windows XP and LH on my SATA 80GB HDDs
> so that I can disable all the IDE ports and only work with SATA.
>
> Also I still don't see the POST screen, I wonder why. Is it an issue with
> BIOS V. F6?
>
> Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
>
> --
> Noël
>
>
 
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Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte (More info?)

Does your page in the bios setup or in your manual look similar to this?
http://www.kingstonsesa.com/SATA.jpg
To get this to work you need to forget some of the traditional way we've all
gotten used to doing it.



"kayizm007" <kayizm@optonline-dot-net.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:42229b48$1_4@alt.athenanews.com...
> So has anyone been able to make this motherboard work correctly? I
> have tried switching from IDE 1 to 2, etc, back and forth, I have all
> IDE hard drives and I cant seems to make this thing work. Any
> suggestions? PLEASE HELP!!
>