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Anonymous
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February 21, 2005 9:56:45 PM

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Hello,

I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
some issues with my IDE drives.

I connected:
- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector


I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.

The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.

I configured the BIOS like this:
- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
- GigaRAID Function [ATA]


* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.

* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.

I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.

Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
Please advise. Thank you.

Noël

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February 21, 2005 10:29:28 PM

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Am I being stupid or have you connected your drives to the Gigaraid instead
of the IDE controller? At the very least you must set Gigaraid to IDE mode
in BIOS.

"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:421a20e3$0$3123$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Hello,
>
> I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
> some issues with my IDE drives.
>
> I connected:
> - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
> - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
> - 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
> - 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
>
>
> I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
> standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA
drives
> yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>
> The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
> The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>
> I configured the BIOS like this:
> - Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
> - On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
> - SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
> - On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
> - Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
> - GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>
>
> * After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives
are
> seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I
use
> and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>
> * Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
> feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>
> I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>
> Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my
settings
> and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the
BIOS.
> Please advise. Thank you.
>
> Noël
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 22, 2005 12:39:16 PM

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Oh.......... I been there.
Well I forget most about how I ended up doing it exactly but ...........
I'm not sure on that board because it's slightly dif to mine but tell
me...........
Are there 3 connectors that fit the IDE connector cable?
Is one red & other 2 green?
While I await your response I'll just comment that the one red one is the
only "true" IDE one so connect the two optical drives to these & then you
need to connect the HD's to IDE 2.
You then need to go into the raid setup when booting & set it to (I think)
NORMAL or (I don't have the manual here!) is it JAOD?
See how you go & get back to me, but basically you need to set the raid up
but just use it as a normal disk.
You were right about booting from scsi.
If you are installing XP I just hope you installed the scsi driver at the
start of your XP installation?
If you didn't, you can put the HD & CD on the red (IDE) connector, install
XP & install the SCSI driver into it & THEN put it back on the other
channel.
Don't you just love gigabytes instructions?
Get back to us.............



"Ian" <dontspammeallthetime@stuffthespam.net> wrote in message
news:421a369a_3@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> Am I being stupid or have you connected your drives to the Gigaraid
instead
> of the IDE controller? At the very least you must set Gigaraid to IDE
mode
> in BIOS.
>
> "Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:421a20e3$0$3123$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am
encountering
> > some issues with my IDE drives.
> >
> > I connected:
> > - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
> > - 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
> > - 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
> > - 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
> >
> >
> > I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
> > standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA
> drives
> > yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
> >
> > The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
> > The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
> >
> > I configured the BIOS like this:
> > - Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
> > - On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
> > - SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
> > - On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
> > - Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
> > - GigaRAID Function [ATA]
> >
> >
> > * After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives
> are
> > seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I
> use
> > and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
> >
> > * Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
> > feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
> >
> > I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
> >
> > Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my
> settings
> > and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the
> BIOS.
> > Please advise. Thank you.
> >
> > Noël
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 22, 2005 12:50:48 PM

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The controler is indeed configured to work as an ATAPI controler not a RAID
controler. It is supposed to support 2 IDE ports with 2 devices on each.

-nd
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 22, 2005 1:03:42 PM

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Hello Bruce,

Thanks for your reply.

There are 3 connectors on the two IDE cables provided with the motherboard
so I plugged 2 devices on each of them.

When I set the GigaRAID controler to "ATA", I get a "GigaRAID ATAPI BIOS
V1.41" message during the boot so it should mean that the controler is
acting as a true IDE controler and it should be able to support 2 * 2
devices.

Whether I plug the optical drives to IDE3 or to IDE, the devices are not
seen and the PX-130 is constantly blinking. It does work though since I
successfully tested it on another PC and played a video DVD with it.

When I previously tried different settings I saw the PX-712A a few times
when plugged to IDE3 but I am not sure what the settings were. But I never
saw the PX-130A so there still is an issue.

There does not seem to be a setup when the GigaRAID is configured as an
ATAPI controler.

I was not able to install XP yet since I cannot use my DVD drive.

Thanks.
--
Noël
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 22, 2005 4:15:13 PM

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
>some issues with my IDE drives.
>
>I connected:
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector

Why do you have the above on IDE2? Why not on IDE1 or 3 (or 4??)

>- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
>- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector

Opinion: not a good idea (the above). I suggest you use IDE2.

>
>
>I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
>standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
>yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>
>The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
>The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>
>I configured the BIOS like this:
>- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
>- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
>- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
>- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
>- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
>- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>
>
>* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
>seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
>and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>
>* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
>feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>
>I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>
>Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
>and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
>Please advise. Thank you.
>
>Noël
>

I don't own one of these boards BUT I have several 7N400 Pro2's and
in my experiences with this board, I would suggets that "it's not a
good idea" to have CD/DVD (etc.) drives installed 'past' IDE1+2.

I briefly EXPERIMENTED once with them (two drives) on IDE3 and they
SEEMED to work to 'point'. I could at least READ disks in them BUT I
could NOT BOOT from them (eg. to install an OS). However I did not
exhaustively test...

What I might suggest is try and configure your HW so that the two
Maxtors are on IDE3 and the two Plextors are in IDE2 and see if that
doesn't help get you where you want to go.

You didn't 'say' what's on IDE1??? (unless I missed it). What are you
using it for?
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 22, 2005 4:49:01 PM

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
>some issues with my IDE drives.
>
>I connected:
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
>- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
>- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
>
>
>I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
>standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
>yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>
>The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
>The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>
>I configured the BIOS like this:
>- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
>- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
>- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
>- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
>- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
>- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>
>
>* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
>seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
>and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>
>* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
>feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>
>I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>
>Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
>and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
>Please advise. Thank you.
>
>Noël
>
According to Gigabyte, and to ITE, the implimentation on the Pro2 does
NOT support optical drives

As for other statements, ALL of the controllers will support ATA 6,
provided, you have a good 80 pin cable, AND you have just ATA 6.

My suggestion is that you move the primary drives (Maxtors) to IDE 1
put the Opticals on IDE 2

any additional drives can be plugged into IDE 3 or IDE 4



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Anonymous
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February 22, 2005 7:34:50 PM

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Hello,

I did not plug my disks on IDE1 because it is only ATA66/100 while my disks
are ATA133.

I tried to connect the two Maxtors to IDE3 and the two Plextors to IDE2 but
to no avail. Both Maxtors detected but none of the Plextors.

Now I replaced the Plextor PX-130A with my old Plextor CD-ROM PlexWriter
PX-2410. I plugged my 2 Maxtors on IDE2 and the PX-2410 and the PX-712A on
IDE3.

The 2 Maxtors are detected and the PX-2410 is also detected but not the
PX-712A.

Why would the controllers only accept CD-ROM drives and not DVD-ROM drives?
Could this be a compatibility issue of some kind?

I placed a bootable Windows XP CD in the plextor. After the "Please wait for
IDE scan" and I got a message saying "a bootable CD found" but I did not
find a way to start it. Is there a key to hit?

Now I tried to plug the two Plextors PX-2410 and PX-712A to IDE1 and I was
able to boot from CD and to start the installation. I don't see the boot
screen (where there is "DualBIOS") may be it is too fast? So I cannot say if
the drives are listed there but I'd think so.

When the PX-2410 is plugged to IDE1, in Setup > "Standard CMOS feature" >
"IDE HDD Auto-detection" the PlexWriter does appear but not the PX-712A.

I tried to start a XP installation from the CD, I hit F6 when the Setup told
me but it asked for a manufacturer CD. I am not sure yet if the drivers are
provided on the CD included with the motherboard.

It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen as a real IDE
controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller.

Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

Noël
Anonymous
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February 23, 2005 2:53:04 PM

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OK, sorry I been a while getting back to you but our clocks are dif to
yours!!!
Seems you have heaps of differing advice so not much point in confusing you
more.
Like I said. the board I was involved with was a dif one but same problem.
When you try all the other suggestions & if they don't work, contact me?
1. Forget about what you see of the flash screen & in bios. It doesn't show
SCSI or RAID. It will still work.
2. Put your optical drives on IDE 1.
3. Put your HD's on IDE 2.
4. Config IDE 2 as a raid. (normal)
5. Install raid driver.
6. Set bios to boot from SCSI.
7. Set to boot from HD (1 or 2)
OK, that is how it will finish up, but to get there I found it easier to
start with CD & HD ONLY on IDE1 channel & install XP, then install SCSI
driver, then put drives where I said & setup bios to suit.
Let me know?



"WillieNillie" <willienillie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:idvm111to7lonvoqpnicjjgio5ojedghpc@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
> <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
> >some issues with my IDE drives.
> >
> >I connected:
> >- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
> >- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
> >- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
> >- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
> >
> >
> >I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
> >standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA
drives
> >yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
> >
> >The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
> >The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
> >
> >I configured the BIOS like this:
> >- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
> >- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
> >- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
> >- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
> >- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
> >- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
> >
> >
> >* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives
are
> >seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I
use
> >and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
> >
> >* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
> >feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
> >
> >I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
> >
> >Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my
settings
> >and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the
BIOS.
> >Please advise. Thank you.
> >
> >Noël
> >
> According to Gigabyte, and to ITE, the implimentation on the Pro2 does
> NOT support optical drives
>
> As for other statements, ALL of the controllers will support ATA 6,
> provided, you have a good 80 pin cable, AND you have just ATA 6.
>
> My suggestion is that you move the primary drives (Maxtors) to IDE 1
> put the Opticals on IDE 2
>
> any additional drives can be plugged into IDE 3 or IDE 4
>
>
>
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Anonymous
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February 23, 2005 3:13:39 PM

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I was referring to connectors for plugging the cables into the board?



"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:421af586$0$25039$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Hello Bruce,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> There are 3 connectors on the two IDE cables provided with the motherboard
> so I plugged 2 devices on each of them.
>
> When I set the GigaRAID controler to "ATA", I get a "GigaRAID ATAPI BIOS
> V1.41" message during the boot so it should mean that the controler is
> acting as a true IDE controler and it should be able to support 2 * 2
> devices.
>
> Whether I plug the optical drives to IDE3 or to IDE, the devices are not
> seen and the PX-130 is constantly blinking. It does work though since I
> successfully tested it on another PC and played a video DVD with it.
>
> When I previously tried different settings I saw the PX-712A a few times
> when plugged to IDE3 but I am not sure what the settings were. But I never
> saw the PX-130A so there still is an issue.
>
> There does not seem to be a setup when the GigaRAID is configured as an
> ATAPI controler.
>
> I was not able to install XP yet since I cannot use my DVD drive.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Noël
>
>
Anonymous
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February 23, 2005 3:19:46 PM

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:49:01 -0500, WillieNillie
<willienillie@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:56:45 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
><webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I just bought a Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard and I am encountering
>>some issues with my IDE drives.
>>
>>I connected:
>>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as master on the IDE2 connector
>>- 1 Maxtor 40GB hard-drive as slave on the IDE2 connector
>>- 1 Plextor PX-130A as master on the IDE3 connector
>>- 1 Plextor PX-712A as slave on the IDE3 connector
>>
>>
>>I don't want to use RAID features. I just want the controler to run as a
>>standard ATAPI controler. I only use IDE drives I don't have any SATA drives
>>yet. I want to boot from the master HDD on IDE2.
>>
>>The motherboard BIOS version is F6.
>>The GigaRAID BIOS version is 1.41.
>>
>>I configured the BIOS like this:
>>- Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212
>>- On-Chip Primary PCI IDE [Enabled]
>>- SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [Disabled]
>>- On-Chip SATA Mode [Auto]
>>- Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
>>- GigaRAID Function [ATA]
>>
>>
>>* After the message "Please wait for IDE scan", only the two hard drives are
>>seen (UDMA6) but I was never able to see the PX-130A whatever settings I use
>>and only saw the PX-712A drive a few times.
>>
>>* Another issue is that in the BIOS Setup, the "IDE HDD Auto-Detection"
>>feature does not detect the parameters of my HDD.
>>
>>I tried all my drives in another PC and they all work correctly.
>>
>>Could you please tell me what is wrong with my configuration and my settings
>>and why I cannot see my DVD-ROM drives and auto-detect my HDD from the BIOS.
>>Please advise. Thank you.
>>
>>Noël
>>
>According to Gigabyte, and to ITE, the implimentation on the Pro2 does
>NOT support optical drives
>
>As for other statements, ALL of the controllers will support ATA 6,
>provided, you have a good 80 pin cable, AND you have just ATA 6.
>
>My suggestion is that you move the primary drives (Maxtors) to IDE 1
>put the Opticals on IDE 2
>
>any additional drives can be plugged into IDE 3 or IDE 4
>
>
Agree!
>
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February 23, 2005 4:38:06 PM

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If this is happening "It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen
as a real IDE
controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller." then you have the ITE
(? could it be the other SATA controller?) controller configured as RAID.

The ITE controller has had several drivers and supporting bios versions.
With one at least the controller will act as an ATA only controller with
support for CD's etc. A counterpart driver exists that will do only RAID.
Perhaps this is tied in with the BIOS firmware for the ITE I.E. maybe it is
acting only as a RAID (SCSI) controller when enabled and the bios options
are not reflecting this limitation. Just a theory.

Forget about the transfer rate for your disc drives. The achieved difference
between ATA 133 and 100 is negligable. Put all your peripherals on the stock
standard IDE controllers built in and avoid the ITE. You still had enabled
in the bios the OnChip SATA RAID - this too can be disabled. I.E. try and
create a very plain old fashioned IDE setup and disable all RAID and other
controllers that are not needed.

General rule of thumb: IDE discs in the 1st IDE port, CD's / DVD's in second
port. Place the faster / more modern optical drive as Master and the older
as Slave. Check your jumpers. Master in the end of the cable, Slave in the
middle.

(OK so a lot of people will say this is unnecessary, but if you have it
setup like that NO ONE will argue with you).

If you still have trouble getting this going then, since you are doing an
install (?) install the IDE Master drive on the 1st channel and the DVD
Reader as master on the second and leave out all other peripherals that
aren't essential. When XP is up and running, add the peripherals in one at a
time checking first the bios to see that things are sensible, then boot into
XP to confirm the devices come up 100%.

HTH & BOL & Enjoy.




"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I did not plug my disks on IDE1 because it is only ATA66/100 while my
> disks are ATA133.
>
> I tried to connect the two Maxtors to IDE3 and the two Plextors to IDE2
> but to no avail. Both Maxtors detected but none of the Plextors.
>
> Now I replaced the Plextor PX-130A with my old Plextor CD-ROM PlexWriter
> PX-2410. I plugged my 2 Maxtors on IDE2 and the PX-2410 and the PX-712A on
> IDE3.
>
> The 2 Maxtors are detected and the PX-2410 is also detected but not the
> PX-712A.
>
> Why would the controllers only accept CD-ROM drives and not DVD-ROM
> drives? Could this be a compatibility issue of some kind?
>
> I placed a bootable Windows XP CD in the plextor. After the "Please wait
> for IDE scan" and I got a message saying "a bootable CD found" but I did
> not find a way to start it. Is there a key to hit?
>
> Now I tried to plug the two Plextors PX-2410 and PX-712A to IDE1 and I was
> able to boot from CD and to start the installation. I don't see the boot
> screen (where there is "DualBIOS") may be it is too fast? So I cannot say
> if the drives are listed there but I'd think so.
>
> When the PX-2410 is plugged to IDE1, in Setup > "Standard CMOS feature" >
> "IDE HDD Auto-detection" the PlexWriter does appear but not the PX-712A.
>
> I tried to start a XP installation from the CD, I hit F6 when the Setup
> told me but it asked for a manufacturer CD. I am not sure yet if the
> drivers are provided on the CD included with the motherboard.
>
> It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen as a real IDE
> controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller.
>
> Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
>
> Noël
>
>
February 23, 2005 4:38:07 PM

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ALL additional (i.e. not IDE1/2) IDE controllers are shown as SCSI
controllers in Windows. It's just the way it's done. The disks attached to
these will show as SCSI disks, even though they are obviously not.
Incidentally, the only way to check that they are in Mode6 (ATA133) is
usually on the boot up display message. You won't get this info in Device
manager with the additional controller/s.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 23, 2005 4:38:07 PM

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:38:06 +1300, "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote:

>If this is happening "It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen
>as a real IDE
>controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller." then you have the ITE
>(? could it be the other SATA controller?) controller configured as RAID.
>
>The ITE controller has had several drivers and supporting bios versions.
>With one at least the controller will act as an ATA only controller with
>support for CD's etc. A counterpart driver exists that will do only RAID.
>Perhaps this is tied in with the BIOS firmware for the ITE I.E. maybe it is
>acting only as a RAID (SCSI) controller when enabled and the bios options
>are not reflecting this limitation. Just a theory.
>
>Forget about the transfer rate for your disc drives. The achieved difference
>between ATA 133 and 100 is negligable. Put all your peripherals on the stock
>standard IDE controllers built in and avoid the ITE.

AGREE.You will not NOTICE (subjectively) ANY DIFFERENCE in perf
between ATA 100 and ATA 133. In fact, it's difficult to even MEASURE
in many benchmarks since these are BURST transfer rates and the diff
tends to only be even MEASUREABLE if the data you happen to need is in
the DISKS CACHE and only needs to be XFERRED to Memory.

If the data needs to be scooped up off a platter... no gain.
Bottleneck here; can't do it fast enough in general to keep the cache
full so no gain.

>You still had enabled
>in the bios the OnChip SATA RAID - this too can be disabled. I.E. try and
>create a very plain old fashioned IDE setup and disable all RAID and other
>controllers that are not needed.

Agree.
>
>General rule of thumb: IDE discs in the 1st IDE port, CD's / DVD's in second
>port. Place the faster / more modern optical drive as Master and the older
>as Slave. Check your jumpers. Master in the end of the cable, Slave in the
>middle.
>
Agree.

>(OK so a lot of people will say this is unnecessary, but if you have it
>setup like that NO ONE will argue with you).
>
>If you still have trouble getting this going then, since you are doing an
>install (?) install the IDE Master drive on the 1st channel and the DVD
>Reader as master on the second and leave out all other peripherals that
>aren't essential. When XP is up and running, add the peripherals in one at a
>time
(Agree)
>
checking first the bios to see that things are sensible, then boot
into
>XP to confirm the devices come up 100%.
>
>HTH & BOL & Enjoy.
>
>
>
>
>"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:421b512c$0$827$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I did not plug my disks on IDE1 because it is only ATA66/100 while my
>> disks are ATA133.
>>
>> I tried to connect the two Maxtors to IDE3 and the two Plextors to IDE2
>> but to no avail. Both Maxtors detected but none of the Plextors.
>>
>> Now I replaced the Plextor PX-130A with my old Plextor CD-ROM PlexWriter
>> PX-2410. I plugged my 2 Maxtors on IDE2 and the PX-2410 and the PX-712A on
>> IDE3.
>>
>> The 2 Maxtors are detected and the PX-2410 is also detected but not the
>> PX-712A.
>>
>> Why would the controllers only accept CD-ROM drives and not DVD-ROM
>> drives? Could this be a compatibility issue of some kind?
>>
>> I placed a bootable Windows XP CD in the plextor. After the "Please wait
>> for IDE scan" and I got a message saying "a bootable CD found" but I did
>> not find a way to start it. Is there a key to hit?
>>
>> Now I tried to plug the two Plextors PX-2410 and PX-712A to IDE1 and I was
>> able to boot from CD and to start the installation. I don't see the boot
>> screen (where there is "DualBIOS") may be it is too fast? So I cannot say
>> if the drives are listed there but I'd think so.
>>
>> When the PX-2410 is plugged to IDE1, in Setup > "Standard CMOS feature" >
>> "IDE HDD Auto-detection" the PlexWriter does appear but not the PX-712A.
>>
>> I tried to start a XP installation from the CD, I hit F6 when the Setup
>> told me but it asked for a manufacturer CD. I am not sure yet if the
>> drivers are provided on the CD included with the motherboard.
>>
>> It's unfortunate that the ATAPI controller is not seen as a real IDE
>> controller instead of seeing it as a SCSI controller.
>>
>> Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
>>
>> Noël
>>
>>
>
February 23, 2005 6:07:53 PM

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No. That is not true.

It depends on the device and how it is configured. For example, add in PCI
IDE controllers will usually appear as IDE controllers. It depends on the
manufacturer to a large extent. Add in RAID controllers will appear most
usually as SCSI RAID - but not always. On board or On chip controllers may
appear as IDE or SCSI or either depending on the BIOS settings - see the
Intel ICH5R for an example. It can change itself from an 82801EB controller
(IDE) to an 82801ER controller via 1 bios setting.

The reason why SATA (and IDE sometimes) RAID controllers appear as SCSI is
that that is the type of interface the manufacturer has chosen to present.
SCSI has advantages even if the underlying device is IDE (or SATA) as it
supports overlapped (async) IO at the Controller Level which offloads this
task from the OS and in the case of Windows this reduces IO stalls because
the device is already busy (in basic terms - its not like this at all but
the gist is whats important). SATA is now supporting with NCQ these types of
features as standard.

- Tim


"Ian" <dontspammeallthetime@stuffthespam.net> wrote in message
news:421bdb16$1_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> ALL additional (i.e. not IDE1/2) IDE controllers are shown as SCSI
> controllers in Windows. It's just the way it's done. The disks attached to
> these will show as SCSI disks, even though they are obviously not.
> Incidentally, the only way to check that they are in Mode6 (ATA133) is
> usually on the boot up display message. You won't get this info in Device
> manager with the additional controller/s.
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 23, 2005 6:29:34 PM

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Thank you all for your suggestions and informations. I still did not get a
reply from the local GigaByte support.

I did disable the SATA controller after posting my message sorry for not
mentioning it.

I did try to plug the HDDs to IDE1 and the optical drives to IDE2 to no
avail. The optical drives are still not detected.

I am fed up with the IDE troubles and I now decided to order new SATA drives
instead and to fully disable IDE H/W on the board. Hopefully this will work
and with Windows XP SP1a CD I should not need any diskette to install the
system and to detect all my drives.

Thank you all.
--
Noël
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 24, 2005 12:01:07 PM

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Sorry to see that you took so much notice of others.
Optical drives NEED to be on the ONLY true IDE channel. (IDE 1)
Did you read that page I sent the address to?
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1660&p...
All you experts who recommended him to put his HD's on IDE 1 ought to buy
one of these boards & try doing it before they give out advice.
ps. Even with you using SATA drives you will need to STILL put your optical
drives on IDE 1. (The green socket on the m/board)

"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:421c935f$0$19318$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Thank you all for your suggestions and informations. I still did not get a
> reply from the local GigaByte support.
>
> I did disable the SATA controller after posting my message sorry for not
> mentioning it.
>
> I did try to plug the HDDs to IDE1 and the optical drives to IDE2 to no
> avail. The optical drives are still not detected.
>
> I am fed up with the IDE troubles and I now decided to order new SATA
drives
> instead and to fully disable IDE H/W on the board. Hopefully this will
work
> and with Windows XP SP1a CD I should not need any diskette to install the
> system and to detect all my drives.
>
> Thank you all.
> --
> Noël
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 24, 2005 4:37:05 PM

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:01:07 +1030, "BruceM" <bruce@@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Sorry to see that you took so much notice of others.
>Optical drives NEED to be on the ONLY true IDE channel. (IDE 1)

Not saying that you are wrong IN THIS CASE (with this MB) because
'anythng's possible' BUT I just thought I would say that I've never
seen or heard of an MB with two IDE Controllers (numbered 1+2) that
REQUIRED 'optical drives' to be installed on IDE ***1***.

In every case I've ever seen or heard of, EITHER IDE 1 OR 2 would be
O.K. and the VAST majority of people wind up installing optical drives
either as IDE 1 'Slave' or IDE 2 Master or Slave.

In all of the implementations of EXTRA IDE controllers I've seen (IDE
3+4), I've never come across one that did not advise AGAINST
installing optical drives 'above' IDE 2.

>Did you read that page I sent the address to?
>http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1660&p...
>All you experts who recommended him to put his HD's on IDE 1 ought to buy
>one of these boards & try doing it before they give out advice.

Again: don't want to start a 'war' here and you MAY be right with this
particular board; but all I can say is that I would be very SURPRISED
if what you've said is true. (Unless you are starting the IDE Count at
IDE 0.

>ps. Even with you using SATA drives you will need to STILL put your optical
>drives on IDE 1. (The green socket on the m/board)

I agree that going SATA will virtually certainly make no difference/be
a probable waste of money.

>
>"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:421c935f$0$19318$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> Thank you all for your suggestions and informations. I still did not get a
>> reply from the local GigaByte support.
>>
>> I did disable the SATA controller after posting my message sorry for not
>> mentioning it.
>>
>> I did try to plug the HDDs to IDE1 and the optical drives to IDE2 to no
>> avail. The optical drives are still not detected.
>>
>> I am fed up with the IDE troubles and I now decided to order new SATA
>drives
>> instead and to fully disable IDE H/W on the board. Hopefully this will
>work
>> and with Windows XP SP1a CD I should not need any diskette to install the
>> system and to detect all my drives.
>>
>> Thank you all.
>> --
>> Noël
>>
>>
>

Bottom line: IMO/to try and resolve the problem.

1. Install ONE IDE drive as IDE 1 Master and get it recognized by the
system at boot time.

2. Install ONLY ONE Optical drive as IDE 2 Master (try with/without
cable select) and see if you can't configure to get it recognized.

3. If '2' doesn't work. Try again as IDE 2 Slave.

4. If '3' doesn't work, try '2' + '3 again with a DIFFERRENT
problematic optical drive.

5. If '4' doesn't work, try'2' and '3' again with a DIFFERENT 'known
good' optical drive and see if you can't get THAT to work.

6. If '5' doesn't work, THEN I think IDE 2 might be bad. (Though I
doubt it since the HDs worked.

7. 'My gut' tells me, since the hisn two optical drives are the same
make/model, unless he''s doing something wrong that he/we've missed,
the problem may simply be a 'fundamental incompatibilty' between that
specific make/model/firware rev. of optical drive and that MB/it's IDE
implementation.

I've been building and troubleshooting PCs since 1986 and 'Boy', I've
seen some wierd stuff. 'Stff that is supposed to work but just
doesn't.. I've seen a LOT in 'fundamental incompatibilites' between
IDE devices (eg. IDE HDs) that sinply didn't LIKE being on the same
IDE controller with each other (ie. as master and slave) and even in
one case where an IDE HD would not work AT ALL in in system with ANY
other HD on ANY other controller.

And boy have I seen problems trying to get TWO (even identical)
optical deices to work on the same controller.

His bottom lline here IS (and again UNLESS as you claim that optical
drives MUST be installed on IDE 1 is true), that IF

(a) he can get AN EXAMPLE of SOME Optical Drive KNOWN to be good (that
works in some other computer) to WORK on IDE 2 (as master or slave,

(b) THEN that says that the HW, BIOS, etc. config is O.K. so THEN

(c) if he subs in ONE of HIS problematic drives on that same
controller/cable end point, etc. THEN

(d) if THAT doesn't work, IMO it may simple be a 'fundamental
incompatibility' (assuming his problematic optical drive(s) work
elsewhere bettween those drive and his MB.

I's rare, but it happens....

(A few months ago, I encountered a situation with MY personal
workstation where a Maxtor IDE HD that had been working for ^ MONTHS
as IDE 3 Slave (on a 7N400 Pro2) with 3 other WD drives as IDE 3M
and IDE 4 M+S decided to simply stop working 'together' with those
drives.

My system would simply NOT boot past/hang at the IDE 3+4 device
autodetection stage. After 6 months of being O.K.

In the end, I solved the problem by subbing in a new WD at IDE 3
Slave.

Yet there was NO problem with the Maxtor. It's installed in another PC
and it's been working fine...

PCs are wierd....
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 24, 2005 9:55:42 PM

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Hello all,

Thanks again for all your support and detailed suggestions.

Yes I did read the page at pcstats.com. Thanks for the link.

The only connector of the true IDE is pink on this MB. The two IDE/RAID
ports are green.

There is "only" 3 IDE channels on this MB. IDE (the true IDE port) and
IDE2/IDE3 the two ports of the RAID/ATA controller. There is no IDE0 or
IDE4. IDE1 (channel 0) is simply called IDE while the RAID ports are IDE2
and IDE3.

I think I did try all the possible configurations, HDD and optical drives on
either IDE or IDE 2/IDE3. Either HDDs on the lowest port and optical drives
on the next one or the opposite. To no avail with the PX-130 and PX-712. I
just did not try to mix HDD (master) and optical drive (slave) per channel
but I am not sure it is worth trying.

On another hand, the PX-W2412 is detected on *any* of the IDE ports, either
IDE, IDE2 or IDE3 like the HDDs. The only drawback of connecting the
PX-W2412 to IDE2 or IDE3 is that I cannot boot from it while the ATAPI BIOS
detects that the CD-ROM is bootable. May be there is a key but I am not
sure.

I ordered two SATA HDD and two SATA DVD writers (I could not find a SATA
DVD-ROM) so all my drives will now be SATA so that I can possibly disabled
all IDE features in the BIOS.

It seems like a device incompatibility to me or a possible bug in the BIOS
or whatever. I know the drives are correctly set to master/slave on every
channel. I built and tweaked tens of PCs as well.

I cannot waste anymore time on those IDE issues. I just hope I am not
wasting my money as well buying those SATA devices.

Thanks again for all your help. I will let you know how it goes with the
SATA devices.

--
Noël
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 25, 2005 5:46:53 PM

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:55:42 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Thanks again for all your support and detailed suggestions.
>
>Yes I did read the page at pcstats.com. Thanks for the link.
>
>The only connector of the true IDE is pink on this MB. The two IDE/RAID
>ports are green.
>
>There is "only" 3 IDE channels on this MB. IDE (the true IDE port) and
>IDE2/IDE3 the two ports of the RAID/ATA controller. There is no IDE0 or
>IDE4. IDE1 (channel 0) is simply called IDE while the RAID ports are IDE2
>and IDE3.
>
>I think I did try all the possible configurations, HDD and optical drives on
>either IDE or IDE 2/IDE3. Either HDDs on the lowest port and optical drives
>on the next one or the opposite. To no avail with the PX-130 and PX-712. I
>just did not try to mix HDD (master) and optical drive (slave) per channel
>but I am not sure it is worth trying.
>
>On another hand, the PX-W2412 is detected on *any* of the IDE ports, either
>IDE, IDE2 or IDE3 like the HDDs. The only drawback of connecting the
>PX-W2412 to IDE2 or IDE3 is that I cannot boot from it while the ATAPI BIOS
>detects that the CD-ROM is bootable. May be there is a key but I am not
>sure.
>
>I ordered two SATA HDD and two SATA DVD writers (I could not find a SATA
>DVD-ROM) so all my drives will now be SATA so that I can possibly disabled
>all IDE features in the BIOS.
>
>It seems like a device incompatibility to me or a possible bug in the BIOS
>or whatever. I know the drives are correctly set to master/slave on every
>channel. I built and tweaked tens of PCs as well.
>
>I cannot waste anymore time on those IDE issues. I just hope I am not
>wasting my money as well buying those SATA devices.
>
>Thanks again for all your help. I will let you know how it goes with the
>SATA devices.

Hmmm. I guess I could be legitimately criticized for not researching
the specs of the particular MB before I commented but... "So much to
do, SO LITTLE TIME..."""

INTERESTING!

This is the first MB I've come across with only one 'normal' (instead
of two 'normal') IDE ports. A NEW TREND....???

Anyway, explains a lot of things/why you were trying to do what you
were.

Taking your latest response into consideration, I would
(unfortunately) pressimistically have to predict that moveing to SATA
drives in and of themselves will not do anything!!! I mean, if there
is NO WAY to get your optical drives (even ONE) recognized on IDE1,
then I things it maye well be come kind of fundamental incompatibility
between your MB and (at least) YOUR particular optical drives, if not
'in general'...

Sound like your ONLY option is to (at least PARTLY) try and get some
NEW writers, EITHER IDE or SATA that will work on IDE1 or SATA. If you
could get SATA writers that worked, then you could still use IDE1 for
HDs....

BUT what you're proposing (also getting SATA drives) should hopefully
give you 'in total' a way to get a working system...

Good Luck!!!!

And PS: Let us know how things work out.
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 26, 2005 10:08:31 PM

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Hello all,

I received my SATA drives and I installed them today. It's better but still
not perfect!

I first plugged my 4 drives 2 * Maxtor 80GB SATA and 2 * Plextor PX-712SA.

I plugged the 1st HDD on SATA1 (ch0, master), the second on SATA3 (ch0,
slave), the 1st writer on SATA2 (ch1, master) and 2nd writer on SATA4 (ch1,
slave).

I configured the BIOS like this:
- Disabled both On-Chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Non-combined"

Since the disks are brand-new I wanted to boot off a Windows XP SP1 CD but
in this configuration, the bootable CD was not detected and I got message
like "System Disk not found. Press Enter". Sorry I don't remember the exact
message.

I then tried to set "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" to AHCI, it is said that it is to
support hotplug but I don't know what else it does. So when I set this
option the bootable CD was seen (i.e. the DVD drives are detected in SATA!
pfff)

When I hit a key, the bootable CD starts, the Windows Setup begins but after
the Setup is done loading the drivers I get a BSOD:

STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78DA63C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

Out of curiosity, I tried my Longhorn alpha preview CD and I got about the
same result.

The BIOS was set to boot like this:
1. Floppy
2. CD-ROM
3. Hard Disk

There is no option to boot from "SATA".

Any ideas how to fix this?

Since I could not boot off the CD, I had to put back my IDE HDD and remove
the SATA drives (while I still don't have a fix) so that I could install my
system.

In the BIOS I set the options like this:
- Enabled the On-chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Enhanced"
Ch0 -> M/S PATA
Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 0/2
Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 1/3


I connected my IDE HDDs to the true IDE connector (pink) and that way I can
use Windows and use my two SATA DVD writers.

It's almost OK but I still cannot boot from my CD/DVD without the BSOD and
now I'd like to be able to install Windows XP and LH on my SATA 80GB HDDs so
that I can disable all the IDE ports and only work with SATA.

Also I still don't see the POST screen, I wonder why. Is it an issue with
BIOS V. F6?

Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

--
Noël
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 26, 2005 10:08:32 PM

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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:08:31 +0100, "Noël Danjou"
<webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I received my SATA drives and I installed them today. It's better but still
>not perfect!
>
>I first plugged my 4 drives 2 * Maxtor 80GB SATA and 2 * Plextor PX-712SA.
>
>I plugged the 1st HDD on SATA1 (ch0, master), the second on SATA3 (ch0,
>slave), the 1st writer on SATA2 (ch1, master) and 2nd writer on SATA4 (ch1,
>slave).
>
>I configured the BIOS like this:
>- Disabled both On-Chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
>- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
>- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
>- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Non-combined"
>
>Since the disks are brand-new I wanted to boot off a Windows XP SP1 CD but
>in this configuration, the bootable CD was not detected and I got message
>like "System Disk not found. Press Enter". Sorry I don't remember the exact
>message.
>
>I then tried to set "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" to AHCI, it is said that it is to
>support hotplug but I don't know what else it does. So when I set this
>option the bootable CD was seen (i.e. the DVD drives are detected in SATA!
>pfff)
>
>When I hit a key, the bootable CD starts, the Windows Setup begins but after
>the Setup is done loading the drivers I get a BSOD:
>
>STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78DA63C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
>
>Out of curiosity, I tried my Longhorn alpha preview CD and I got about the
>same result.
>
>The BIOS was set to boot like this:
>1. Floppy
>2. CD-ROM
>3. Hard Disk
>
>There is no option to boot from "SATA".
>
>Any ideas how to fix this?
>
>Since I could not boot off the CD, I had to put back my IDE HDD and remove
>the SATA drives (while I still don't have a fix) so that I could install my
>system.
>
>In the BIOS I set the options like this:
>- Enabled the On-chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
>- Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
>- Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
>- Set On-chip SATA mode to "Enhanced"
> Ch0 -> M/S PATA
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 0/2
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 1/3
>
>
>I connected my IDE HDDs to the true IDE connector (pink) and that way I can
>use Windows and use my two SATA DVD writers.
>
>It's almost OK but I still cannot boot from my CD/DVD without the BSOD and
>now I'd like to be able to install Windows XP and LH on my SATA 80GB HDDs so
>that I can disable all the IDE ports and only work with SATA.
>
>Also I still don't see the POST screen, I wonder why. Is it an issue with
>BIOS V. F6?
>
>Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

You're getting into areas/technology now (with the MB and SATA
opticals) that I've had no experience with so I can't help you much.

But, one idea: have you considered trying to install the OS by GIVING
UP on the idea of BOOTING (the OS Install CD) from an optical drive
and instead try booting up from an XP Install ***DISKETTE*** set?

It's not clear to me if you simply can't BOOT from an optical here OR
you can't/WON'T be able to 'see' it at all (from an OS) if you get one
installed.

If 'booting' is the only problem, THIS workaround MAY enable you to
get up and running at least.
February 28, 2005 2:17:12 AM

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So has anyone been able to make this motherboard work correctly? I
have tried switching from IDE 1 to 2, etc, back and forth, I have all
IDE hard drives and I cant seems to make this thing work. Any
suggestions? PLEASE HELP!!
February 28, 2005 2:27:57 PM

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The stop message (7B - Inaccessiable boot device) most likely means you did
not supply the SATA drives using F6 during setup.
The drivers are invariably on the motherboard CD and you will need to create
an install floppy - the method will be detailed in the manual. Consider
checking the web site for a more recent driver set to save updating later.

My apologies for falling into the trap and assuming that you mobo had two
real IDE ports... Times are changing.

- Tim

"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:4220bc1b$0$19336$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Hello all,
>
> I received my SATA drives and I installed them today. It's better but
> still not perfect!
>
> I first plugged my 4 drives 2 * Maxtor 80GB SATA and 2 * Plextor PX-712SA.
>
> I plugged the 1st HDD on SATA1 (ch0, master), the second on SATA3 (ch0,
> slave), the 1st writer on SATA2 (ch1, master) and 2nd writer on SATA4
> (ch1, slave).
>
> I configured the BIOS like this:
> - Disabled both On-Chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
> - Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
> - Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
> - Set On-chip SATA mode to "Non-combined"
>
> Since the disks are brand-new I wanted to boot off a Windows XP SP1 CD but
> in this configuration, the bootable CD was not detected and I got message
> like "System Disk not found. Press Enter". Sorry I don't remember the
> exact message.
>
> I then tried to set "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" to AHCI, it is said that it is
> to support hotplug but I don't know what else it does. So when I set this
> option the bootable CD was seen (i.e. the DVD drives are detected in SATA!
> pfff)
>
> When I hit a key, the bootable CD starts, the Windows Setup begins but
> after the Setup is done loading the drivers I get a BSOD:
>
> STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF78DA63C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
>
> Out of curiosity, I tried my Longhorn alpha preview CD and I got about the
> same result.
>
> The BIOS was set to boot like this:
> 1. Floppy
> 2. CD-ROM
> 3. Hard Disk
>
> There is no option to boot from "SATA".
>
> Any ideas how to fix this?
>
> Since I could not boot off the CD, I had to put back my IDE HDD and remove
> the SATA drives (while I still don't have a fix) so that I could install
> my system.
>
> In the BIOS I set the options like this:
> - Enabled the On-chip Primary and Secondary PCI IDE
> - Disabled SATA RAID/AHCI Mode
> - Disabled On-board H/W GigaRAID
> - Set On-chip SATA mode to "Enhanced"
> Ch0 -> M/S PATA
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 0/2
> Ch2 -> M/S SATA Port 1/3
>
>
> I connected my IDE HDDs to the true IDE connector (pink) and that way I
> can use Windows and use my two SATA DVD writers.
>
> It's almost OK but I still cannot boot from my CD/DVD without the BSOD and
> now I'd like to be able to install Windows XP and LH on my SATA 80GB HDDs
> so that I can disable all the IDE ports and only work with SATA.
>
> Also I still don't see the POST screen, I wonder why. Is it an issue with
> BIOS V. F6?
>
> Your suggestions are welcome. Thank you.
>
> --
> Noël
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 28, 2005 6:34:15 PM

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Does your page in the bios setup or in your manual look similar to this?
http://www.kingstonsesa.com/SATA.jpg
To get this to work you need to forget some of the traditional way we've all
gotten used to doing it.



"kayizm007" <kayizm@optonline-dot-net.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> So has anyone been able to make this motherboard work correctly? I
> have tried switching from IDE 1 to 2, etc, back and forth, I have all
> IDE hard drives and I cant seems to make this thing work. Any
> suggestions? PLEASE HELP!!
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
February 28, 2005 9:12:30 PM

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Hello all,

I have a working solution with only SATA drives and IDE fully disabled.

I plugged my HDD on SATA1, my 1st PX-712SA on SATA2 and my 2nd PX-712SA on
SATA4. For those tests I did not plug the 2nd HDD to SATA3 but that should
work ok.

In "Integrated Peripherals" I set the options like this:

On-Chip Primary PCI IDE -> Disabled
SATA RAID/AHCI Mode -> AHCI
On-board H/W GigaRAID -> Disabled

After rebooting, in "Standard CMOS Features" I get:

IDE Channel 0 Master [None]
IDE Channel 0 Slave [None]
IDE Channel 2 Master [S_ATA1-Maxtor 6Y080M]
IDE Channel 2 Slave [None]
IDE Channel 3 Master [S_ATA3-PLEXTOR DVDR]
IDE Channel 3 Slave [S_ATA4-PLEXTOR DVDR]

Not sure who'd be IDE1?

I created a chipset diskette from iaa40.exe on the CD. I could not find a
newer version from Giga-Byte or Intel though it seems like there is a 4.1
version of IAA, at least I think I read something like this in a readme.

When I restart, I hit a key to boot from the Windows XP SP1 CD (after the
message is shown). I hit F6 when requested, I select "82801FR AHCI" from the
diskette and successfully complete the installation. The Windows XP Setup
completes very quickly and the system seems to work just fine.

The SATA controller appears as "Intel(R) 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller" under
"IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers".

I tried the same with the LH alpha preview CD, the 1st part of the Setup
worked but I got the BSOD (0x7B) when LH started after the Setup restarted
the system. I'd think that it is due to a possible lack of native SATA
support in this alpha of LH. We will see with the upcoming preview.

This configuration would be OK for me but I still wonder whether the system
should be able to boot from a CD when SATA RAID/AHCI is set to Disabled? If
this option is disabled and it could possibly boot from a CD, would a
diskette still be required? I wish I did not need a diskette to complete the
installation just like with standard IDE.

Now I am looking for good SATA racks to put my HDDs in and then close my box
hopefully once for good. I am looking for Enermax UC-S106TMFA since I am
satisfied with the IDE version of those racks.
--
Noël
March 1, 2005 1:23:15 AM

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I connected my optical drves into the first IDE slot. I connected my
hard drives to the other IDE channels. After the RAID drivers were
loaded everything finally appeared fine until it rebooted and I get
the message "Disk error replace disk and reboot". What the hell am I
doing wrong?
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 1, 2005 3:30:00 PM

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I'm glad you got it going.
Is your computer in a business environment or just casual use?
It would be nice if you could now document exactly the procedure to get to
your pesent situation. (which you have done)
Then go back & try to sucessfully get it going with all IDE hardware & also
record your steps.
I can see a very big demand for this advice in the near future.
Pity Gigabyte, ASUS & others can't create more detailed documents for
following.
I would have taken more care in recording my exact steps to get my first one
going & if it was mine I would do just that but it's in a University now
half way across the country.
Regards.....

"Noël Danjou" <webmaster@newsgroups.noeld.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:4223514e$0$1244$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Hello all,
>
> I have a working solution with only SATA drives and IDE fully disabled.
>
> I plugged my HDD on SATA1, my 1st PX-712SA on SATA2 and my 2nd PX-712SA on
> SATA4. For those tests I did not plug the 2nd HDD to SATA3 but that should
> work ok.
>
> In "Integrated Peripherals" I set the options like this:
>
> On-Chip Primary PCI IDE -> Disabled
> SATA RAID/AHCI Mode -> AHCI
> On-board H/W GigaRAID -> Disabled
>
> After rebooting, in "Standard CMOS Features" I get:
>
> IDE Channel 0 Master [None]
> IDE Channel 0 Slave [None]
> IDE Channel 2 Master [S_ATA1-Maxtor 6Y080M]
> IDE Channel 2 Slave [None]
> IDE Channel 3 Master [S_ATA3-PLEXTOR DVDR]
> IDE Channel 3 Slave [S_ATA4-PLEXTOR DVDR]
>
> Not sure who'd be IDE1?
>
> I created a chipset diskette from iaa40.exe on the CD. I could not find a
> newer version from Giga-Byte or Intel though it seems like there is a 4.1
> version of IAA, at least I think I read something like this in a readme.
>
> When I restart, I hit a key to boot from the Windows XP SP1 CD (after the
> message is shown). I hit F6 when requested, I select "82801FR AHCI" from
the
> diskette and successfully complete the installation. The Windows XP Setup
> completes very quickly and the system seems to work just fine.
>
> The SATA controller appears as "Intel(R) 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller"
under
> "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers".
>
> I tried the same with the LH alpha preview CD, the 1st part of the Setup
> worked but I got the BSOD (0x7B) when LH started after the Setup restarted
> the system. I'd think that it is due to a possible lack of native SATA
> support in this alpha of LH. We will see with the upcoming preview.
>
> This configuration would be OK for me but I still wonder whether the
system
> should be able to boot from a CD when SATA RAID/AHCI is set to Disabled?
If
> this option is disabled and it could possibly boot from a CD, would a
> diskette still be required? I wish I did not need a diskette to complete
the
> installation just like with standard IDE.
>
> Now I am looking for good SATA racks to put my HDDs in and then close my
box
> hopefully once for good. I am looking for Enermax UC-S106TMFA since I am
> satisfied with the IDE version of those racks.
> --
> Noël
>
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 1, 2005 5:44:54 PM

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I'm flying blind here but did you set your machine to boot from SATA? (yes I
know it's not a true SATA)
Is there the option in yours to swap IDE1 over with IDE2? Maybe try that.
And then in "boot from HD" set it to the one with your OS loaded on it.
Wright each down so you can try dif ones. There are about 5 things that you
can try in dif settings so that makes 5X5=25!!!
Just make sure you keep a record of what happens with each one.



"kayizm007" <kayizm@optonline-dot-net.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:4223e023$3_2@alt.athenanews.com...
> I connected my optical drves into the first IDE slot. I connected my
> hard drives to the other IDE channels. After the RAID drivers were
> loaded everything finally appeared fine until it rebooted and I get
> the message "Disk error replace disk and reboot". What the hell am I
> doing wrong?
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 1, 2005 8:23:19 PM

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Bruce,

This new computer is to replace my current development system (I am a
freelance software engineer). I also prepared it for the upcoming
beta-testing.

Here is a summary of my current experiments. I won't have time to further
investigate the issues I had with my IDE optical drives. I think I tried all
possible combinations and none worked in my case.


The Giga-Byte GA-8GPNXP Duo motherboard has 3 IDE ports:

- 2 green ones (IDE2/IDE3) which support ATA133 and RAID

- a pink one, a true IDE port which suppors ATA33/66/100.


I ran all my tests on the green ports with the "GigaRAID Function" setup
option set to ATA in "Integrated Peripherals" so that the GigaRAID
controller works as a true IDE/ATAPI controller.

I could not get any of my Plextor optical IDE drives PX-116A, PX-130A and
PX-712A to work on any of the IDE ports (IDE, IDE2 or IDE3). Only my old
Plextor PX-W2410 and my Maxtor 40GB IDE HDDs did work on any of the IDE
ports.

My quick and only solution for the optical drives were to buy 2 optical
Serial ATA (SATA) drives. So I bought 2 Plextor PX-712SA since I could not
find a SATA DVD reader.

Once I had my SATA optical drives, the remaining issue was to be able to
boot from a CD when a bootable CD is inserted in any of the optical drives.

With the F6 revision of the BIOS, my bootable CD are not detected as
bootable when the "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" setup option is set to Disabled.
This always led to a Disk Error message since my HDDs were not formatted
yet.

On another hand I am able to boot from a CD when the SATA Mode option is set
to AHCI. The only drawback of this solution is that this mode requires an
Intel ICH6R (IAA) chipset driver diskette to install Windows.

AFAIK the SATA drives support in Windows XP is only available with the
Service Pack 1 and later.

I now have two possible working solutions, one with only SATA drives and one
with IDE HDDs and SATA optical drives.



* The mixed IDE/SATA solution:

- I plugged both my Maxtor HDDs to the true (pink) IDE port with a
80-conductor cable, one drive as master and the other one as slave.

- I plugged the first SATA optical drive to the SATA1 connector and the
second one to the SATA3 connector.

- In the BIOS, I set the related options like this:

On-Chip PCI IDE [ Enabled ]
SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [ AHCI ]
On-board H/W GigaRAID [ Disabled ]


Note: I could have used the GigaRAID ports instead of the true IDE, the
options would have been:

On-Chip PCI IDE [ Disabled ]
SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [ AHCI ]
On-board H/W GigaRAID [ Enabled ]
GigaRAID Function [ ATA ]

Hard Disk Boot Priority: 1. SCSI-0: IT8212


This solution would require to provide an ITE IT8212 chipset drivers
diskette during the Windows installation as well.



* The full SATA solution:

- I plugged my SATA Maxtor HDDs to the SATA1 and SATA3 connectors

- I plugged my SATA Plextor optical drives to the SATA2 and SATA4 connectors

- In the BIOS, I set the related options like this:

On-Chip PCI IDE [ Enabled ]
SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [ AHCI ]
On-board H/W GigaRAID [ Disabled ]




* Installing Windows XP

In either case, the installation of Windows is the same process.

- you first need to create the chipset diskette for the SATA controller in
AHCI mode. To do so, extract the files from "iaa40.exe" (on the CD provided
with the motherboard) to a diskette.

- Once the BIOS is configured, save the configuration and reboot with a
bootable CD of Windows XP SP1 in the first optical drive. Hit a key when the
message "Hit a key to boot from CD" appears. The Windows XP setup starts.

- When the message "Hit F6 for additional SCSI and RAID drivers" message
appears hit F6 and follow the steps to select a new driver from the
diskette. Select "82801FR AHCI".

- You can now successfully complete the Windows setup.


I hope this helps.

Regards,

Noël
http://noeld.com/
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 8, 2005 9:25:48 PM

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Here is another working (mixed PATA/SATA) configuration but which requires
no diskette to install the system, so no need to hit F6 and so on, just like
a standard IDE configuration.

I successfully tested it with Windows XP SP1a CD and Longhorn alpha preview
DVD.

Hardware:

- I plugged both my Maxtor HDDs to the true (pink) IDE port with a
80-conductor cable, one drive as master and the other one as slave.

- I plugged the first SATA optical drive to the SATA1 connector and the
second one to the SATA3 connector.

- In the BIOS, I set the related options like this:

On-Chip PCI IDE [ Enabled ]
SATA RAID/AHCI Mode [ Disabled ]
On-Chip SATA Mode [ Enhanced ]
On-board H/W GigaRAID [ Disabled ]

--
Noël
!