Boot to recovery disk

[ray]

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I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal USB
CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance from experienced members.

Hardware in use:-
1. Toshiba R150 NB
2. Bootable floppy drive
3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter

Software in use:-
1. Toshiba recovery disk
2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows Explorer,
format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk.
3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver to
the floppy disk making the total files as below:-.
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
DI1000DD.SYS
DISPLAY.SYS
EGA2.CPI
EGA3.CPI
EGA.CPI
IO.SYS
KEYB.COM
KEYBOARD.SYS
KEYBRD2.SYS
KEYBRD3.SYS
KEYBRD4.SYS
MODE.COM
MSDOS.SYS
RAMFD.SYS
USBASPI.SYS
4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file.

device=ramfd.sys
device=usbaspi.sys /r
device=di1000dd.sys

When power-on, the following message appeared:-

Starting...

RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00
Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB
Data copy completion.
Device driver installed.
ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07
Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g

DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00
Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd.

Available ID = Not found installable device.

Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.

A:\>_

It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I
could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can
someone advise me how to make it work.

Thanks,

Ray

 

[Guest]

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This may be a blind shoot but it seems that the BIOS already
"mounted" your USB CD as emulated drive A.
So, the DOS CD-ROM driver is not able to reuse it.
--PA

"Ray" wrote:
> I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal USB
> CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance from experienced members.
>
> Hardware in use:-
> 1. Toshiba R150 NB
> 2. Bootable floppy drive
> 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter
>
> Software in use:-
> 1. Toshiba recovery disk
> 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows Explorer,
> format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk.
> 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver to
> the floppy disk making the total files as below:-.
> COMMAND.COM
> CONFIG.SYS
> DI1000DD.SYS
> DISPLAY.SYS
> EGA2.CPI
> EGA3.CPI
> EGA.CPI
> IO.SYS
> KEYB.COM
> KEYBOARD.SYS
> KEYBRD2.SYS
> KEYBRD3.SYS
> KEYBRD4.SYS
> MODE.COM
> MSDOS.SYS
> RAMFD.SYS
> USBASPI.SYS
> 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file.
>
> device=ramfd.sys
> device=usbaspi.sys /r
> device=di1000dd.sys
>
> When power-on, the following message appeared:-
>
> Starting...
>
> RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00
> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
> Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB
> Data copy completion.
> Device driver installed.
> ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07
> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
> ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g
>
> DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00
> Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd.
>
> Available ID = Not found installable device.
>
> Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium
> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
>
> A:\>_
>
> It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I
> could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can
> someone advise me how to make it work.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>
>
>
>

 

[ray]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

RC,

Obviously, you did miss my question. Booting to recovery disk must have OS
issue. I need to recover the OS. The popular way to recover the OS is
using recovery disk provided by the computer suppliers. I believe most of
IT people should know it without explanation. If not, please forgive me and
I take this opportunity to explain in detail. From your question, probably
you are not aware of DOS USB driver that is quite popular and developing
since 2003. The hardware that I am talking about of course is for Windows
XP. Hope you now feel better.

Ray


"R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message
news:uAjZbsC7EHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Ray.
>
> You are hopelessly entangling several conflicting products here. :>(
>
> First, Microsoft did not write that Recovery Disk and does not know what
> is on it. That's Toshiba's creation, so you'll have to deal with Toshiba
> on any question about that.
>
> Second, Windows ME is based on MS-DOS. It knows NOTHING about Windows XP.
> Why are you booting into MS-DOS?
>
> Third: What is your WinXP problem? I can't tell from your post. You
> start out by telling us how you've tried to fix...something...but you
> never say what was wrong in the first place. Or maybe it was in there
> somewhere, but I missed it. Why do you want or need to boot the Recovery
> Disk?
>
> This is a peer-to-peer newsgroup, not Microsoft Support, and you gave
> plenty of system details, so there is a very good chance that someone here
> will recognize your hardware and be able to make suggestions. However,
> you would have a better chance if you start at the beginning by telling us
> clearly just what problem you are trying to solve. If you just want to
> boot the Recovery Disk, ask Toshiba Tech Support.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@corridor.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
>
> "Ray" <NoSpam-ray.ck.li@Gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OsLTlUC7EHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal
>>USB
>> CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance from experienced
>> members.
>>
>> Hardware in use:-
>> 1. Toshiba R150 NB
>> 2. Bootable floppy drive
>> 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter
>>
>> Software in use:-
>> 1. Toshiba recovery disk
>> 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows
>> Explorer,
>> format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk.
>> 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver
>> to
>> the floppy disk making the total files as below:-.
>> COMMAND.COM
>> CONFIG.SYS
>> DI1000DD.SYS
>> DISPLAY.SYS
>> EGA2.CPI
>> EGA3.CPI
>> EGA.CPI
>> IO.SYS
>> KEYB.COM
>> KEYBOARD.SYS
>> KEYBRD2.SYS
>> KEYBRD3.SYS
>> KEYBRD4.SYS
>> MODE.COM
>> MSDOS.SYS
>> RAMFD.SYS
>> USBASPI.SYS
>> 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file.
>>
>> device=ramfd.sys
>> device=usbaspi.sys /r
>> device=di1000dd.sys
>>
>> When power-on, the following message appeared:-
>>
>> Starting...
>>
>> RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00
>> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
>> Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB
>> Data copy completion.
>> Device driver installed.
>> ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07
>> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
>> ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g
>>
>> DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00
>> Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd.
>>
>> Available ID = Not found installable device.
>>
>> Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium
>> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
>>
>> A:\>_
>>
>> It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I
>> could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can
>> someone advise me how to make it work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>

 

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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

>"R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message

>> You are hopelessly entangling several conflicting products here. :>(

>> First, Microsoft did not write that Recovery Disk and does not know what
>> is on it. That's Toshiba's creation, so you'll have to deal with Toshiba
>> on any question about that.

Well, sorta. Those who buy bland lame systems are stuck with these
recovery disks, which MS finds acceptable as licensed product. The
OEM is responsible for support, as always with OEM MS software, but
nonetheless it's the OS that MS wrote.

>> Second, Windows ME is based on MS-DOS. It knows NOTHING about Windows XP.

WinME isn't "based on DOS" any more than Win95 was; the relationship
to DOS is more complex than that.

>> Why are you booting into MS-DOS?

Possibly because XP as a CD-booted OS is too useless to do what he
wants to do, such as create FAT32 partitions > 32G? Or is your line
that if XP can't do it, you don't need it?

The above is VERY likely to apply with the crippleware OEM recovery
CDs, which are likely to give the user no chance to create any sort of
custom partitioning at all, or use a response file to customise the
installation process (e.g. avoid default OS path, etc.).

>> Third: What is your WinXP problem? I can't tell from your post. You
>> start out by telling us how you've tried to fix...something...but you
>> never say what was wrong in the first place. Or maybe it was in there
>> somewhere, but I missed it. Why do you want or need to boot the Recovery
>> Disk?

*Now* you are making sense ;-)

>> you would have a better chance if you start at the beginning by telling us
>> clearly just what problem you are trying to solve.

Amen!

>> "Ray" <NoSpam-ray.ck.li@Gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal
>>>USB CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance
>>>
>>> Hardware in use:-
>>> 1. Toshiba R150 NB
>>> 2. Bootable floppy drive
>>> 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter
>>>
>>> Software in use:-
>>> 1. Toshiba recovery disk
>>> 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows
>>> Explorer,
>>> format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk.
>>> 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver
>>> to the floppy disk making the total files as below:-.
>>> COMMAND.COM
>>> CONFIG.SYS
>>> DI1000DD.SYS
>>> DISPLAY.SYS
>>> EGA2.CPI
>>> EGA3.CPI
>>> EGA.CPI
>>> IO.SYS
>>> KEYB.COM
>>> KEYBOARD.SYS
>>> KEYBRD2.SYS
>>> KEYBRD3.SYS
>>> KEYBRD4.SYS
>>> MODE.COM
>>> MSDOS.SYS
>>> RAMFD.SYS
>>> USBASPI.SYS
>>> 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file.
>>>
>>> device=ramfd.sys
>>> device=usbaspi.sys /r
>>> device=di1000dd.sys

What I don't see here, is a line in A:\Autoexec.bat that binds MSCDEx
to your CD-ROM driver (presumably di1000dd.sys ?). Without that, you
have extended BIOS support to the CD drive, but you haven't extended
OS support to use that drive. Try this...

1) Copy MSCDEX.EXE to A:

2) Edit this line in A:\CONFIG.SYS

device=di1000dd.sys /D:8CHRNAME

3) Add this line to A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT

mscdex /D:8CHRNAME

>>> When power-on, the following message appeared:-
>>>
>>> Starting...
>>>
>>> RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00
>>> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
>>> Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB
>>> Data copy completion.
>>> Device driver installed.
>>> ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07
>>> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
>>> ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g
>>>
>>> DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00
>>> Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd.
>>>
>>> Available ID = Not found installable device.

Missing /D: parameter?

>>> Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium
>>> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
>>>
>>> A:\>_
>>>
>>> It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I
>>> could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can
>>> someone advise me how to make it work.



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[ray]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

Cquirke,

Thanks for your useful advice. I believe the XP startup disk is useless for
this application and I will change it to Windows 98 SE that supports CD-ROM
drive, MSCDEX. Then try your suggestion.

Ray

"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
news:fuh5t0p93drq3l02bi2g78lj3sqtio93bj@4ax.com...
> >"R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message
>
>>> You are hopelessly entangling several conflicting products here. :>(
>
>>> First, Microsoft did not write that Recovery Disk and does not know what
>>> is on it. That's Toshiba's creation, so you'll have to deal with
>>> Toshiba
>>> on any question about that.
>
> Well, sorta. Those who buy bland lame systems are stuck with these
> recovery disks, which MS finds acceptable as licensed product. The
> OEM is responsible for support, as always with OEM MS software, but
> nonetheless it's the OS that MS wrote.
>
>>> Second, Windows ME is based on MS-DOS. It knows NOTHING about Windows
>>> XP.
>
> WinME isn't "based on DOS" any more than Win95 was; the relationship
> to DOS is more complex than that.
>
>>> Why are you booting into MS-DOS?
>
> Possibly because XP as a CD-booted OS is too useless to do what he
> wants to do, such as create FAT32 partitions > 32G? Or is your line
> that if XP can't do it, you don't need it?
>
> The above is VERY likely to apply with the crippleware OEM recovery
> CDs, which are likely to give the user no chance to create any sort of
> custom partitioning at all, or use a response file to customise the
> installation process (e.g. avoid default OS path, etc.).
>
>>> Third: What is your WinXP problem? I can't tell from your post. You
>>> start out by telling us how you've tried to fix...something...but you
>>> never say what was wrong in the first place. Or maybe it was in there
>>> somewhere, but I missed it. Why do you want or need to boot the
>>> Recovery
>>> Disk?
>
> *Now* you are making sense ;-)
>
>>> you would have a better chance if you start at the beginning by telling
>>> us
>>> clearly just what problem you are trying to solve.
>
> Amen!
>
>>> "Ray" <NoSpam-ray.ck.li@Gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>>>I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal
>>>>USB CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance
>>>>
>>>> Hardware in use:-
>>>> 1. Toshiba R150 NB
>>>> 2. Bootable floppy drive
>>>> 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter
>>>>
>>>> Software in use:-
>>>> 1. Toshiba recovery disk
>>>> 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows
>>>> Explorer,
>>>> format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk.
>>>> 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS
>>>> Driver
>>>> to the floppy disk making the total files as below:-.
>>>> COMMAND.COM
>>>> CONFIG.SYS
>>>> DI1000DD.SYS
>>>> DISPLAY.SYS
>>>> EGA2.CPI
>>>> EGA3.CPI
>>>> EGA.CPI
>>>> IO.SYS
>>>> KEYB.COM
>>>> KEYBOARD.SYS
>>>> KEYBRD2.SYS
>>>> KEYBRD3.SYS
>>>> KEYBRD4.SYS
>>>> MODE.COM
>>>> MSDOS.SYS
>>>> RAMFD.SYS
>>>> USBASPI.SYS
>>>> 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file.
>>>>
>>>> device=ramfd.sys
>>>> device=usbaspi.sys /r
>>>> device=di1000dd.sys
>
> What I don't see here, is a line in A:\Autoexec.bat that binds MSCDEx
> to your CD-ROM driver (presumably di1000dd.sys ?). Without that, you
> have extended BIOS support to the CD drive, but you haven't extended
> OS support to use that drive. Try this...
>
> 1) Copy MSCDEX.EXE to A:
>
> 2) Edit this line in A:\CONFIG.SYS
>
> device=di1000dd.sys /D:8CHRNAME
>
> 3) Add this line to A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
>
> mscdex /D:8CHRNAME
>
>>>> When power-on, the following message appeared:-
>>>>
>>>> Starting...
>>>>
>>>> RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00
>>>> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
>>>> Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB
>>>> Data copy completion.
>>>> Device driver installed.
>>>> ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07
>>>> Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd.
>>>> ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g
>>>>
>>>> DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00
>>>> Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd.
>>>>
>>>> Available ID = Not found installable device.
>
> Missing /D: parameter?
>
>>>> Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium
>>>> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
>>>>
>>>> A:\>_
>>>>
>>>> It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However,
>>>> I
>>>> could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer.
>>>> Can
>>>> someone advise me how to make it work.
>
>
>
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> "He's such a character!"
> ' Yeah - CHAR(0) '
>>---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -