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ROFLOL, "Wouldn't kill it more." That's for sure, at this point he has
nothing more to lose so trying your suggestion wouldn't seem to increase his
risk factor! (Still laughing, shaking head from side to side)
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"Rube" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
news:OV1I9uF9EHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Good points Michael. I whole heartedly agree.
>
> It seems my follow-up post is causing more concern than my initial reply
> to
> the OP. My response to Rob was simply a suggestion on what to try next. He
> already killed his card. Rob already exceeded the boundaries of what you
> would suggest someone do in his situation. It seems to me a possible
> solution on this "other" side might be appropriate. Doing what I suggested
> wouldn't kill it more. If it failed, he could still attempt to send it to
> ATI or Sapphire in a similar state that is in right now. My response to
> namniar contained the reference to the modding community and was directed
> at
> him/her, not Rob, or others of his experience level.
>
> But either way, I think this thread has run its course.
>
> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
> news:%23SGf0z58EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Rube, first I thank you for specifically excluding me in your initial
>> response.
>>
>> Second, since this is an open community with a lot of users who are
> novices
>> or novice to intermediate users, I think you'd agree, most of them don't
>> fall into the "wring" every ounce of performance category. For their
>> benefit, since these are peer to peer groups, I do think it is important
> to
>> stress, flashing the BIOS of a graphics card is quite a bit out of the
>> ordinary, can be quite dangerous as exemplified by the OP and is not
>> something most users need to do and most users don't.
>>
>> I don't think we want to be giving the impression this is something most
>> users should even consider especially given the symptoms in the OP. Even
>> for the knowledgeable user who has the experience of doing this, I'd
>> strongly recommend it be a last resort, one taken only after ruling out
> all
>> other possibilities insofar as the situation described in the OP.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> "Rube" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>> news:%23iYlNY18EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > First of all, why would he need the obvious pointed out? Second, your
>> > ignorance of an entire community that's sole purpose is to wring every
>> > last
>> > drop of performance out of a piece of hardware is your problem, not his
>> > (or
>> > mine.) What you call faith, I call knowledge. I've flashed many video
>> > bios'
>> > myself and am currently running an alternate bios. Yes, I voided my
>> > warranty, but I saved $200 & got the performance for "free."
>> > Thirdly, why are you advising to send it to ATI when you KNOW they
>> > won't
>> > service it? Flashing the BIOS is a guarantee that they won't even help
> him
>> > out, even if he offered to pay for it.
>> > Finally, I'm pretty sure you consider his "learned lesson" as that of a
>> > scolded puppy, as in he won't be doing that anymore. I, on the other
> hand
>> > am
>> > pointing out that not all is lost. He probably feels bad enough at
> hosing
>> > his card in the first place, no need to rub salt in the wounds. . .
>> > Maybe people should remember the spirit of these forums is to help.
>> >
>> >
>> > "namniar" <this@that> wrote in message
>> > news:eQU4S908EHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >> Rube, I was merely pointing out the obvious. Why on earth would you
> put
>> >> your faith (and money) in an update created by whomever without
>> >> contacting
>> >> the manufacturer of the product for assistance / warranty, and to
>> >> properly
>> >> explore less drastic options first. In my opinion he went to the
>> >> "last
>> >> resort" option first and learned a valuable lesson.
>> >>
>> >> I also stand by my assistance to his situation: Send it to ATI for a
>> > proper
>> >> non-warranty repair.
>> >>
>> >> P.S. you are out of line.
>> >>
>> >> r.
>> >>
>> >> "Rube" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>> >> news:u34Jxg08EHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Since the other responders are a$$holes (aside from Michael) and are
>> >> > offering nothing but contempt, I will try to offer some help. When
>> >> > flashing
>> >> > an AGP card's bios, a common practice among modders is to install a
> PCI
>> >> > video card as a backup. When the AGP card dies, the system will see
> the
>> >> > PCI
>> >> > and still boot & run windows. You can find them online (or at
> computer
>> >> > shows) for as cheap as $10.
>> >> >
>> >> > When you have a PCI card in your system & can get it booting again
>> >> > (with
>> >> > the
>> >> > AGP card still in) go to www.rojakpot.com . This site has lots of
> info
>> > on
>> >> > flashing ATI bios', especially where to find them.
>> >> >
>> >> > GL!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rob" <yung.robert@northropgrumman.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:c65575c8.0501040629.474339d9@posting.google.com...
>> >> >> HELP!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am having huge problems with my 9800 pro aiw card. When it boots
>> >> >> up, everything is fine until it has to display any color. When it
> has
>> >> >> to display color, I get all these lines on the screen and the
>> >> >> colors
>> >> >> are all screwed up. I suspected hardware failure, but I wanted to
> try
>> >> >> to fix it. I followed the instructions at:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3327
>> >> >>
>> >> >> to try to re-flash my 9800 bios. Unfortunetly I missed the step
> about
>> >> >> backing up my bios (I KNOW I KNOW) and now my card is
>> >> >> non-functional
>> >> >> all together. My question is.. is there anyone out there with a
>> >> >> All-in-wonder 9800 pro that can connect me with a copy of their
> bios?
>> >> >> I need to find my original bios so that I can put it back on the
>> >> >> card...
((
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The instructions on how to extract your bios is on that webpage.. I
>> >> >> know its a stretch.. but am hoping someone will be kind enough to
> help
>> >> >> me out...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks so much!
>> >> >> Rob
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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