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Anonymous
June 26, 2004 9:11:53 PM

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Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print head?
Seems my first set of ink cartridges (one is the high capacity black) in my
C84 have already gone down a notch but I haven't printed much on it. My
primary printer is the Canon i560 since I have a lot of black ink for it. I
think I should just get a laser printer =P

Thanks!
Anonymous
June 26, 2004 9:11:54 PM

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"xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:t7iDc.4439$SO5.2817@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print
head?
> Seems my first set of ink cartridges (one is the high capacity black)
in my
> C84 have already gone down a notch but I haven't printed much on it.
My
> primary printer is the Canon i560 since I have a lot of black ink for
it. I
> think I should just get a laser printer =P
>
> Thanks!


Don't know about Epson, but my Canon does, and a recent check of my
first ink cartridges shows they are at 80% with the printer only being
installed three days and hardly used.

In Canon's case I can turn off the print head cleaning at start up
function which saves on ink (so they say), well will see.

Candide

>
Anonymous
June 26, 2004 11:03:00 PM

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In article <t7iDc.4439$SO5.2817@twister.socal.rr.com>,
ofc2-ivom@spamex.com (xNokia3390x) wrote:

> Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print
> head?

Yes.

Jon.
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June 27, 2004 4:12:29 AM

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"xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:t7iDc.4439$SO5.2817@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print
head?

The charging is quite deliberate aimed squarely at your wallet
Tony
--
Inkylink JetTec UK Quality - Wot others wanna-be
Epson C64/ C84 Lighfast pigmented inks. R200/300,
RX500 (all with 30% more free patent chip)
Canon BCI-3 i560 i750 BCI-6 i865 S-820 / S-900 series.
Specialist ink refill kits... http://www.inkylink.co.uk
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Anonymous
June 27, 2004 5:06:34 AM

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In article <HdednaZU7-BIn0PdRVn-iQ@nildram.net>, Tony
<webfive@pantsaah-haa.com> writes
>
>
>"xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:t7iDc.4439$SO5.2817@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print
>head?
>
>The charging is quite deliberate aimed squarely at your wallet

What drivel!

Ink will not appear at the nozzle until the head is filled, or charged,
with ink. The volume of the head is a significant proportion of the
contents of a cartridge, so the first cartridge shows a low content very
quickly. Subsequent cartridges do not require the print head to be
charged because, unless you have been stupid enough to over-ride the
protection and run the head completely dry, the head is already filled
with ink from the previous cartridge. If you do that, then the cost of
an ink charge is likely to be the least of your worries! In short, used
correctly, the volume of that first charge of ink stays in the print
head for the life of the printer.

But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
Tony's!
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)
Anonymous
June 27, 2004 10:23:00 AM

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"Kennedy McEwen" <rkm@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:XsXUm4CK+g3AFwCv@kennedym.demon.co.uk...
> Ink will not appear at the nozzle until the head is filled, or charged,
> with ink. The volume of the head is a significant proportion of the
> contents of a cartridge, so the first cartridge shows a low content very
> quickly. Subsequent cartridges do not require the print head to be
> charged because, unless you have been stupid enough to over-ride the
> protection and run the head completely dry, the head is already filled
> with ink from the previous cartridge. If you do that, then the cost of
> an ink charge is likely to be the least of your worries! In short, used
> correctly, the volume of that first charge of ink stays in the print
> head for the life of the printer.

That makes sense. I have three sets of ink cartridges (OEM) so I should be
set for a while I hope. It'll be a second printer since I have so much
black ink for my Canon i560. I appreciate the info.

> But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
> Tony's!

Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P [no
offense tony]
June 27, 2004 4:02:16 PM

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"xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:8JtDc.3351$ju5.444@twister.socal.rr.com...
> "Kennedy McEwen" <rkm@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:XsXUm4CK+g3AFwCv@kennedym.demon.co.uk...
> > But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
> > Tony's!
>
> Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
> attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P
[no
> offense tony]

I think you are right as I've found Stink-link to be shameless. On the other
hand it is pointless sending advice to the opinionated as they always know
better, and quite pointless not to direct users in need to JetTec cartridges
as they are half the price of Epson. Advice however gathered from several
100 users of JetTec could be valid and count for some feedback at least
equal to chip-on-shoulder lurkers.
In case you've not realised Epson innovated the chip and JetTec (British)
innovated the savings :-)
Tony
PS http://stink-link.com is a bad link whereas http://www.inkylink.co.uk
works...
>
>
Anonymous
June 27, 2004 7:48:13 PM

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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 19:03 +0100 (BST), Jon@NOonlySPAMbrowsingTHANX.com
(Jon O'Brien) wrote:

>In article <t7iDc.4439$SO5.2817@twister.socal.rr.com>,
>ofc2-ivom@spamex.com (xNokia3390x) wrote:
>
>> Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print
>> head?
>
>Yes.

Endlessly.
Anonymous
June 27, 2004 7:48:14 PM

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"Just Allan" <justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Endlessly.

Is it that bad? I'll see how fast it goes through the three set of Epson
OEM ink cartridges I have. One came with the printer, one came with a
second printer I bought (free after rebate) and another from eBay for $30.
Overall cost will be around $50, so if it comes out to be a junk printer
I'll just toss it/donate it.
Anonymous
June 27, 2004 7:48:15 PM

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In article <oGtDc.3350$ju5.2813@twister.socal.rr.com>,
ofc2-ivom@spamex.com (xNokia3390x) wrote:

> "Just Allan" <justallan@COLDhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jsnsd05sitfc88dl68ci10rm15kravgh9j@4ax.com...
> > Endlessly.
>
> Is it that bad?

No. The print heads are only charged the first time the printer is used.
If it didn't, there wouldn't be any ink in the system when you use it!
After that it will run a cleaning cycle on certain occasions, such as when
a new cartridge is inserted, but that's not head charging.

Some people complain about cleaning cycles being run when the printer is
switched on or if it hasn't been used for some time. However, I leave my
2200 switched on all the time and sometimes leave it idle for a week or
more at a time and it rarely runs a cleaning cycle.

Jon.
Anonymous
June 28, 2004 1:40:01 AM

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In article <GPudnVxps_ktNEPdRVn-uw@nildram.net>, Tony
<webfive@pantsaah-haa.com> writes
>
>
>"xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:8JtDc.3351$ju5.444@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> "Kennedy McEwen" <rkm@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:XsXUm4CK+g3AFwCv@kennedym.demon.co.uk...
>> > But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
>> > Tony's!
>>
>> Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
>> attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P
>[no
>> offense tony]
>
>I think you are right as I've found Stink-link to be shameless. On the other
>hand it is pointless sending advice to the opinionated as they always know
>better, and quite pointless not to direct users in need to JetTec cartridges
>as they are half the price of Epson. Advice however gathered from several
>100 users of JetTec could be valid and count for some feedback at least
>equal to chip-on-shoulder lurkers.
>Tony
>
Oi Stinky - nobody offering advice on this thread is a lurker and most
have been subscribing to the newsgroup long before juvenile
know-it-all's like you arrived and began corrupting the place with your
continual self advertising. If your product is so good, how come you
have to resort to spam to sell it?

Don't confuse lurkers with those who normally keep Stink in the
killfile, where it belongs.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)
Anonymous
June 28, 2004 6:44:23 AM

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:02:16 +0100, "Tony" <webfive@pantsaah-haa.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:8JtDc.3351$ju5.444@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> "Kennedy McEwen" <rkm@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:XsXUm4CK+g3AFwCv@kennedym.demon.co.uk...
>> > But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
>> > Tony's!
>>
>> Ha ha...yeah, I've noticed his shameless plugs which if you don't pay
>> attention, won't realize that he's self-advertising most of the time =P
>[no
>> offense tony]
>
>I think you are right as I've found Stink-link to be shameless. On the other
>hand it is pointless sending advice to the opinionated as they always know
>better, and quite pointless not to direct users in need to JetTec cartridges
>as they are half the price of Epson. Advice however gathered from several
>100 users of JetTec could be valid and count for some feedback at least
>equal to chip-on-shoulder lurkers.
>In case you've not realised Epson innovated the chip and JetTec (British)
>innovated the savings :-)
>Tony
>PS http://stink-link.com is a bad link whereas http://www.inkylink.co.uk
>works...
>>
Permajet are far better.

--

Hecate
Hecate@newsguy.com
veni, vidi, reliqui
June 28, 2004 1:02:41 PM

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--
"Kennedy McEwen" <rkm@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aON3O+FhCz3AFwx4@kennedym.demon.co.uk...
> In article <GPudnVxps_ktNEPdRVn-uw@nildram.net>, Tony
> <webfive@pantsaah-haa.com> writes
> >
> >
> >"xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
> >news:8JtDc.3351$ju5.444@twister.socal.rr.com...
> >> "Kennedy McEwen" <rkm@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:XsXUm4CK+g3AFwCv@kennedym.demon.co.uk...
> >> > But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon> Oi
Stinky - nobody offering advice on this thread is a lurker and most
> have been subscribing to the newsgroup long before juvenile
> know-it-all's like you arrived and began corrupting the place with your
> continual self advertising. If your product is so good, how come you
> have to resort to spam to sell it?
>
> Don't confuse lurkers with those who normally keep Stink in the
> killfile, where it belongs.

How odd. At 66 I've become juvenile. And killfile (Oh the dread) normally
means you don't read posts which offend your delicate sensibilities: and yet
you reply. Maybe you should get a job ? There must be vacancies for
nit-pickers surely :-)
Practical advice from a huge experience base is given and it sometimes does
contain a signature. That's not considered spam.
Here's a useful URL showing the biggest by being best in Europe... Tony
http://www.jettec.com/reman.asp

Inkylink JetTec UK Quality - Wot others wanna-be
Epson C64/ C84 Lighfast pigmented inks. R200/300,
RX500 (all with 30% more free patent chip)
Canon BCI-3 i560 i750 BCI-6 i865 S-820 / S-900 series.
Specialist ink refill kits... http://www.inkylink.co.uk
remove pants for personal mail
Anonymous
June 28, 2004 4:41:24 PM

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:02:41 +0100, "Tony" <webfive@pantsaah-haa.com>
wrote:

| Inkylink JetTec UK Quality - Wot others wanna-be
| Epson C64/ C84 Lighfast pigmented inks. R200/300,
| RX500 (all with 30% more free patent chip)
| Canon BCI-3 i560 i750 BCI-6 i865 S-820 / S-900 series.
| Specialist ink refill kits... http://www.inkylink.co.uk

But they — and all the others I can find — don't mention anything
about refills for the Epson R series. Once that damned chip is dealt
with, are there any non-Epson ink sites that have quality inks
specifically for the R200, R300, etc.?

Larc



§§§ - Change planet to earth to reply by email - §§§
Anonymous
June 28, 2004 6:44:00 PM

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In article <cZCdnXRJC6dKTULdRVn-iQ@nildram.net>, webfive@pantsaah-haa.com
(Tony) wrote:

> Practical advice from a huge experience base is given...

Unfortunately, your advice is often misleading or just plain wrong. This
makes the rest unreliable and I, for one, would never trust any advice you
give.

Jon.
June 28, 2004 8:08:32 PM

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"Jon O'Brien" <Jon@NOonlySPAMbrowsingTHANX.com> wrote in message
news:memo.20040628144443.1820A@blue.compulink.co.uk...
> In article <cZCdnXRJC6dKTULdRVn-iQ@nildram.net>, webfive@pantsaah-haa.com
> (Tony) wrote:
>
> > Practical advice from a huge experience base is given...
>
> Unfortunately, your advice is often misleading or just plain wrong. This
> makes the rest unreliable and I, for one, would never trust any advice you
> give.
>
> Jon.
You've obviously been studying long and hard for this. Possibly you for one
have never bought anything from the site - which means you're trumpeting
through your other end. Proof , then some more proof otherwise your remarks
are not worth bothering with. But - one in a thousand can and does exist.
Tony
Anonymous
June 29, 2004 6:27:00 PM

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In article <H9CdnfQ6aur_qX3dRVn-hw@nildram.net>, webfive@pantsaah-haa.com
(Tony) wrote:

> You've obviously been studying long and hard for this.

Huh? The only 'studying' I've been doing is reading the messages in
which you give lousy advice.

> Possibly you for one have never bought anything from the site

What site? I'm talking about the dodgy advice I've seen you giving in this
newsgroup.

> Proof , then some more proof otherwise your remarks are not worth
> bothering with.

If anyone wants proof, they only have to look back at the advice you've
posted here in the past.

> But - one in a thousand can and does exist.

There are a thousand ones in a thousand. So what? It's a meaningless
statement which has no bearing on my comment.

Jon.
Anonymous
July 4, 2004 1:12:35 PM

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Epson printers, and most inkjet printers do an initial charging of the
head to remove and replace a protective fluid in the head on shipping.
They also so a smaller flushing between cartridges, and on start up
after some hours or days. All of these lower the amount of ink in
yourcartridge.

Art

xNokia3390x wrote:

> Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print head?
> Seems my first set of ink cartridges (one is the high capacity black) in my
> C84 have already gone down a notch but I haven't printed much on it. My
> primary printer is the Canon i560 since I have a lot of black ink for it. I
> think I should just get a laser printer =P
>
> Thanks!
>
>
Anonymous
July 4, 2004 1:29:10 PM

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Right on!

I found Tony's message to be very disingenuous and self-serving. As
Kennedy states,. the ink has to be fed through the head to clear it of
fluid and air that are in it from the factory.

Later purges and charges are less long, but are there to prevent air
locks and air causing partial and temporary pseudo-clogs that will spoil
your first print or two otherwise.

The ink cost is one issue, the need for these charges and purges are
quite another.

Art

Kennedy McEwen wrote:

> In article <HdednaZU7-BIn0PdRVn-iQ@nildram.net>, Tony
> <webfive@pantsaah-haa.com> writes
>
>>
>>
>> "xNokia3390x" <ofc2-ivom@spamex.com> wrote in message
>> news:t7iDc.4439$SO5.2817@twister.socal.rr.com...
>>
>>> Just cuirous, but do Epson's still do an intial charging of the print
>>
>> head?
>>
>> The charging is quite deliberate aimed squarely at your wallet
>
>
> What drivel!
>
> Ink will not appear at the nozzle until the head is filled, or charged,
> with ink. The volume of the head is a significant proportion of the
> contents of a cartridge, so the first cartridge shows a low content very
> quickly. Subsequent cartridges do not require the print head to be
> charged because, unless you have been stupid enough to over-ride the
> protection and run the head completely dry, the head is already filled
> with ink from the previous cartridge. If you do that, then the cost of
> an ink charge is likely to be the least of your worries! In short, used
> correctly, the volume of that first charge of ink stays in the print
> head for the life of the printer.
>
> But, if you use Stinky-link, the contents of your wallet soon become
> Tony's!
!