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January 12, 2005 2:48:42 AM

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I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look at the
properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
location 1 primary slave
CD1 is in location 0 secondary master CD2 is in location 1 secondary slave.

Is this something I should worry about? I thought IDE is better than SCSI?
Does anyone know how I can change them back to IDE?

thanks

Gary

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Anonymous
January 12, 2005 12:55:24 PM

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BTW: This is off topic! SCSI is much better than IDE. SCSI can handle
multiple commands to multiple drives at the same time. IDE must stop all
reads/writes if you are trying to access the second drive on the IDE channel
(Master or Slave drives).


"Gary" <toemagic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ufKaJgD%23EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look at
>the properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
> I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
> location 1 primary slave
> CD1 is in location 0 secondary master CD2 is in location 1 secondary
> slave.
>
> Is this something I should worry about? I thought IDE is better than SCSI?
> Does anyone know how I can change them back to IDE?
>
> thanks
>
> Gary
>
Anonymous
January 12, 2005 4:48:49 PM

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It is NOT referring the physical interface BUT rather the commands
controlling the device.

--
Jonah
"Gary" <toemagic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ufKaJgD%23EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look at
>the properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
> I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
> location 1 primary slave
> CD1 is in location 0 secondary master CD2 is in location 1 secondary
> slave.
>
> Is this something I should worry about? I thought IDE is better than SCSI?
> Does anyone know how I can change them back to IDE?
>
> thanks
>
> Gary
>
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January 12, 2005 4:48:50 PM

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IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics. This refers to a type of hard
disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of device.

SCSI stands for Small Computer Systems Interface. This refers to a type of
hard disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of device.

AN IDE device cannot connect to a SCSI interface and vice versa.

There is no way BIOS or Windows could confuse the two device types.

A SCSI disk drive typically has a faster data transfer rate compared with an
IDE drive of the same time period. As with IDE [EIDE] both standards have
seen increases in performance since their introduction.

SCSI disks are standard in most 'intel' Servers and RISC servers and Apple
PCs!



"Sleepless in Seattle" wrote:

> It is NOT referring the physical interface BUT rather the commands
> controlling the device.
>
> --
> Jonah
> "Gary" <toemagic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ufKaJgD%23EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look at
> >the properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
> > I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
> > location 1 primary slave
> > CD1 is in location 0 secondary master CD2 is in location 1 secondary
> > slave.
> >
> > Is this something I should worry about? I thought IDE is better than SCSI?
> > Does anyone know how I can change them back to IDE?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Gary
> >
>
>
>
Anonymous
January 12, 2005 4:48:51 PM

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That information is fine, but not revelant to the situation. If you hook an IDE hard drive to an
add-in controller such as a Promise card the drive will appear in the Device Manager as SCSI not
IDE, this is normal behavior (Why, I don't know but this is the way they appear). The origianl
posters motherboard may have an imbedded controller chipset that may do the same thing as I have
seen many motherboard with a promise chip on the board itself.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+
Computer Education Services Corp. (CESC)

"BAR" <BAR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:15D4FD39-564F-425F-9ACA-942BFF50CCA0@microsoft.com...
> IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics. This refers to a type of hard
> disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of device.
>
> SCSI stands for Small Computer Systems Interface. This refers to a type of
> hard disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of device.
>
> AN IDE device cannot connect to a SCSI interface and vice versa.
>
> There is no way BIOS or Windows could confuse the two device types.
>
> A SCSI disk drive typically has a faster data transfer rate compared with an
> IDE drive of the same time period. As with IDE [EIDE] both standards have
> seen increases in performance since their introduction.
>
> SCSI disks are standard in most 'intel' Servers and RISC servers and Apple
> PCs!
>
>
>
> "Sleepless in Seattle" wrote:
>
>> It is NOT referring the physical interface BUT rather the commands
>> controlling the device.
>>
>> --
>> Jonah
>> "Gary" <toemagic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ufKaJgD%23EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look at
>> >the properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
>> > I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
>> > location 1 primary slave
>> > CD1 is in location 0 secondary master CD2 is in location 1 secondary
>> > slave.
>> >
>> > Is this something I should worry about? I thought IDE is better than SCSI?
>> > Does anyone know how I can change them back to IDE?
>> >
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>>
>>
>>
January 12, 2005 10:33:41 PM

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Right on, Mr. Vair, i had this very same unusual situation in XP when I
hooked my IDE to the connector..... It took me forever to get an
explanation. Nice to know there are knowledgeable people like yourself to
very simply explain this anomaly; it was an a7v Asus board I had awhile back
as I remember it...

"David Vair" <dvair@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LJ8Fd.143211$AL5.5230@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> That information is fine, but not revelant to the situation. If you hook
an IDE hard drive to an
> add-in controller such as a Promise card the drive will appear in the
Device Manager as SCSI not
> IDE, this is normal behavior (Why, I don't know but this is the way they
appear). The origianl
> posters motherboard may have an imbedded controller chipset that may do
the same thing as I have
> seen many motherboard with a promise chip on the board itself.
> --
> Dave Vair
> CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+
> Computer Education Services Corp. (CESC)
>
> "BAR" <BAR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:15D4FD39-564F-425F-9ACA-942BFF50CCA0@microsoft.com...
> > IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics. This refers to a type of
hard
> > disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of device.
> >
> > SCSI stands for Small Computer Systems Interface. This refers to a type
of
> > hard disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of
device.
> >
> > AN IDE device cannot connect to a SCSI interface and vice versa.
> >
> > There is no way BIOS or Windows could confuse the two device types.
> >
> > A SCSI disk drive typically has a faster data transfer rate compared
with an
> > IDE drive of the same time period. As with IDE [EIDE] both standards
have
> > seen increases in performance since their introduction.
> >
> > SCSI disks are standard in most 'intel' Servers and RISC servers and
Apple
> > PCs!
> >
> >
> >
> > "Sleepless in Seattle" wrote:
> >
> >> It is NOT referring the physical interface BUT rather the commands
> >> controlling the device.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonah
> >> "Gary" <toemagic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ufKaJgD%23EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look
at
> >> >the properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
> >> > I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
> >> > location 1 primary slave
> >> > CD1 is in location 0 secondary master CD2 is in location 1 secondary
> >> > slave.
> >> >
> >> > Is this something I should worry about? I thought IDE is better than
SCSI?
> >> > Does anyone know how I can change them back to IDE?
> >> >
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 7:53:03 PM

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Gary wrote:

>I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look at the
>properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
>I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
>location 1 primary slave

This arises when a drive has an added extra driver file - such as the
cdfs one for CD drives, which normally show as SCSI. It is odd for a
plain hard drive though.

--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. Alexn@mvps.D8E8L.org (remove the D8 bit)
January 13, 2005 7:53:45 PM

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So, does that mean I haven't got a problem then?

"David Vair" <dvair@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LJ8Fd.143211$AL5.5230@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> That information is fine, but not revelant to the situation. If you hook
> an IDE hard drive to an add-in controller such as a Promise card the drive
> will appear in the Device Manager as SCSI not IDE, this is normal behavior
> (Why, I don't know but this is the way they appear). The origianl posters
> motherboard may have an imbedded controller chipset that may do the same
> thing as I have seen many motherboard with a promise chip on the board
> itself.
> --
> Dave Vair
> CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+
> Computer Education Services Corp. (CESC)
>
> "BAR" <BAR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:15D4FD39-564F-425F-9ACA-942BFF50CCA0@microsoft.com...
>> IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics. This refers to a type of
>> hard
>> disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of device.
>>
>> SCSI stands for Small Computer Systems Interface. This refers to a type
>> of
>> hard disk drive and thus an interface [or connector] for that type of
>> device.
>>
>> AN IDE device cannot connect to a SCSI interface and vice versa.
>>
>> There is no way BIOS or Windows could confuse the two device types.
>>
>> A SCSI disk drive typically has a faster data transfer rate compared with
>> an
>> IDE drive of the same time period. As with IDE [EIDE] both standards
>> have
>> seen increases in performance since their introduction.
>>
>> SCSI disks are standard in most 'intel' Servers and RISC servers and
>> Apple
>> PCs!
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sleepless in Seattle" wrote:
>>
>>> It is NOT referring the physical interface BUT rather the commands
>>> controlling the device.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonah
>>> "Gary" <toemagic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ufKaJgD%23EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> >I have 2 hard drives and 2 cd drives and all are IDE. But when I look
>>> >at
>>> >the properties of all 4 drives they all say SCSI.
>>> > I have the usual set up HD1 is in location 0 primary master HD2 is in
>>> > location 1 primary slave
>>> > CD1 is in location 0 secondary master CD2 is in location 1 secondary
>>> > slave.
>>> >
>>> > Is this something I should worry about? I thought IDE is better than
>>> > SCSI?
>>> > Does anyone know how I can change them back to IDE?
>>> >
>>> > thanks
>>> >
>>> > Gary
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
!