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July 12, 2005 7:40:06 PM

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Just tried the F4 BIOS in my K8NS-939.

I have 4 sticks of Kingmax Super Ram 512 pc3200 (2 dual channel kits) in
there and with F3 it will run at pc3200 if you set it manually*. But with F4
if I try that it gets a checksum error and resets everything. So I went back
to F3.

Could be it wouldn't do this with 2 sticks. I don't know.

* On auto at 166 it chooses tighter timings from spd; I'm actually running
with a 240 clock and the memory set to 166 -- memory then runs at 200. So,
to run the pc3200 spd timings, before upping the clock to 240 I set it the
memory to 200, reboot, then check that the timings loosened up, and set them
to manual, then set the memory to 166, then set the clock to 240


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July 13, 2005 12:56:13 PM

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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:40:06 -0700, "Ed Light" <nobody@nobody.there>
wrote:

>Just tried the F4 BIOS in my K8NS-939.
>
>I have 4 sticks of Kingmax Super Ram 512 pc3200 (2 dual channel kits) in
>there and with F3 it will run at pc3200 if you set it manually*. But with F4
>if I try that it gets a checksum error and resets everything. So I went back
>to F3.
>
>Could be it wouldn't do this with 2 sticks. I don't know.
>
>* On auto at 166 it chooses tighter timings from spd; I'm actually running
>with a 240 clock and the memory set to 166 -- memory then runs at 200. So,
>to run the pc3200 spd timings, before upping the clock to 240 I set it the
>memory to 200, reboot, then check that the timings loosened up, and set them
>to manual, then set the memory to 166, then set the clock to 240

It is said to be due to the cpu's memory controller. Winchester
defaults memory speed with 4 sticks to 166. With Venice one can run 4
sticks at 200.

Your trick with 240 (and memory at 166 x (240/200)=200 ) is a
classical way to cheat bios defaulting with.

best regards

John
Anonymous
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July 13, 2005 12:56:14 PM

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"John" <johnknuhtsenSP@Mail.dk> wrote in message
news:9ie9d1tpov5a4baj1spa5raqi3mcc8dsaq@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:40:06 -0700, "Ed Light" <nobody@nobody.there>
> wrote:
>
>>Just tried the F4 BIOS in my K8NS-939.
>>
>>I have 4 sticks of Kingmax Super Ram 512 pc3200 (2 dual channel kits) in
>>there and with F3 it will run at pc3200 if you set it manually*. But with
>>F4
>>if I try that it gets a checksum error and resets everything. So I went
>>back
>>to F3.
>>
>>Could be it wouldn't do this with 2 sticks. I don't know.
>>
>>* On auto at 166 it chooses tighter timings from spd; I'm actually running
>>with a 240 clock and the memory set to 166 -- memory then runs at 200. So,
>>to run the pc3200 spd timings, before upping the clock to 240 I set it the
>>memory to 200, reboot, then check that the timings loosened up, and set
>>them
>>to manual, then set the memory to 166, then set the clock to 240
>
> It is said to be due to the cpu's memory controller. Winchester
> defaults memory speed with 4 sticks to 166. With Venice one can run 4
> sticks at 200.
>
> Your trick with 240 (and memory at 166 x (240/200)=200 ) is a
> classical way to cheat bios defaulting with.
>
> best regards
>
> John

Thanks, John.

If you read my post again, you'll see that before overclocking it I set the
memory to 200 and rebooted, and all was well; in memtest 86 is was pc3200.
That's how I got it to reveal the spd timings for pc3200, then I locked them
down and set the memory to 166 and overclocked the pc.

So, with the F3 BIOS, the Winchester can indeed run 4 sticks of pc3200, or
at least that Kingmax.

That's why I'm not too glad the F4 BIOS pulled a checksum error instead, and
reset all the settings. I didn't go further to see if it ran ok at 166
overclocked. The memory timing selections were rather meager compared to F3.
Since I'm not getting an x2 soon, I went back to the F3.
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July 13, 2005 2:56:34 PM

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:42:51 -0700, "Ed Light" <nobody@nobody.there>
wrote:


>
>If you read my post again, you'll see that before overclocking it I set the
>memory to 200 and rebooted, and all was well; in memtest 86 is was pc3200.
>That's how I got it to reveal the spd timings for pc3200, then I locked them
>down and set the memory to 166 and overclocked the pc.
>
>So, with the F3 BIOS, the Winchester can indeed run 4 sticks of pc3200, or
>at least that Kingmax.
>
>That's why I'm not too glad the F4 BIOS pulled a checksum error instead, and
>reset all the settings. I didn't go further to see if it ran ok at 166
>overclocked. The memory timing selections were rather meager compared to F3.
>Since I'm not getting an x2 soon, I went back to the F3.

Well, I will follow your advice and try the F3 again.

Thanks !

best regards

John
July 13, 2005 3:19:18 PM

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No, sorry

I have the ultra version. We have F6 and F5.

http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_...

and I actually have also heard of a F7beta with X2 support. But it
should be bad.

Maybe I should go back to F5. I saw some strange issues when I changed
from F5 to F6. Dual band was obtained with different slots !

best regards

John
Anonymous
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July 13, 2005 3:19:19 PM

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"John" <johnknuhtsenSP@Mail.dk> wrote

> Maybe I should go back to F5. I saw some strange issues when I changed
> from F5 to F6. Dual band was obtained with different slots !

I guess it's all in whether the current one is doing everything you want.

Gigabyte, for some reason, no longer offers F3 for the K8NS-939 on their
site. They offer F1, F2, and F4! Really strange.

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