Problem Upgrading RAM on a Dell Dim 4100

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I'm trying to upgrade my older Dell Dimension 4100 at home from 512MB ram to
1GB. The AIDA32 utility I use shows I have two DIMM slots each populated with
a 256MB PC133 non-ECC module. I purchased two 512MB PC133 non-ECC modules.
One, a Viking, is brand new and the other, no name showing, is used. I put
the new Viking in slot 0 and the used one in slot 1.

When I booted up, AIDA32 reported correctly that both slots were populated
with 512MB modules. But it also reported that total memory was only 512MB. So
I left the new Viking in slot 0 and removed the used one. At bootup, report
indicated that slot 0 was populated and slot 1 empty. I then pulled the
Viking and inserted the used one in slot 0. When I powered up I got 3 beeps,
and bootup process stopped.

Leaving the used in slot 0, I put the new in slot 1. Got a beep at powerup,
but bootup proceeded and XP started up. System says only 512MB total memory.
Rebooted and went into BIOS setup. It shows 512MB for whichever slot the
Viking is in, but Not Intitialized for the slot used module is located. (With
just the Viking in slot 0, BIOS reports 512MB for slot 0 and Not Installed
for slot 1).

I also tried the Viking 512MB in slot 0 and one of the two 256MB modules
which I know were working in slot 1. Bootup to XP went fine, but total memory
still reports only 512MB.

The AIDA32 report on the modules are identical (PC133, non-ecc,unregistered,
etc) with one exception. The Viking module's width is 72-bit, but the used
module is 64-bit.

So, I guess my question is: Is the used stick bad, or is it incompatible
with the 4100, or is the max memory for the 4100 only 512MB?
 
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Dell Dimension 4100 can only use 512MB max. Check the
www.crucial.com website for compatible ram.

>-----Original Message-----
>I'm trying to upgrade my older Dell Dimension 4100 at
home from 512MB ram to
>1GB. The AIDA32 utility I use shows I have two DIMM
slots each populated with
>a 256MB PC133 non-ECC module. I purchased two 512MB
PC133 non-ECC modules.
>One, a Viking, is brand new and the other, no name
showing, is used. I put
>the new Viking in slot 0 and the used one in slot 1.
>
>When I booted up, AIDA32 reported correctly that both
slots were populated
>with 512MB modules. But it also reported that total
memory was only 512MB. So
>I left the new Viking in slot 0 and removed the used
one. At bootup, report
>indicated that slot 0 was populated and slot 1 empty. I
then pulled the
>Viking and inserted the used one in slot 0. When I
powered up I got 3 beeps,
>and bootup process stopped.
>
>Leaving the used in slot 0, I put the new in slot 1. Got
a beep at powerup,
>but bootup proceeded and XP started up. System says only
512MB total memory.
>Rebooted and went into BIOS setup. It shows 512MB for
whichever slot the
>Viking is in, but Not Intitialized for the slot used
module is located. (With
>just the Viking in slot 0, BIOS reports 512MB for slot 0
and Not Installed
>for slot 1).
>
>I also tried the Viking 512MB in slot 0 and one of the
two 256MB modules
>which I know were working in slot 1. Bootup to XP went
fine, but total memory
>still reports only 512MB.
>
>The AIDA32 report on the modules are identical (PC133,
non-ecc,unregistered,
>etc) with one exception. The Viking module's width is 72-
bit, but the used
>module is 64-bit.
>
>So, I guess my question is: Is the used stick bad, or is
it incompatible
>with the 4100, or is the max memory for the 4100 only
512MB?
>.
>
 
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AIDA32 is obsolete. Use Everest Home Edition from www.lavalys.com

"SonomaAirporter" <SonomaAirporter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:AB559E0E-D55E-4E1B-B7A6-C90BB0C24E26@microsoft.com...
> I'm trying to upgrade my older Dell Dimension 4100 at home from 512MB ram
> to
> 1GB. The AIDA32 utility I use shows I have two DIMM slots each populated
> with
> a 256MB PC133 non-ECC module. I purchased two 512MB PC133 non-ECC modules.
> One, a Viking, is brand new and the other, no name showing, is used. I
> put
> the new Viking in slot 0 and the used one in slot 1.
>
> When I booted up, AIDA32 reported correctly that both slots were populated
> with 512MB modules. But it also reported that total memory was only 512MB.
> So
> I left the new Viking in slot 0 and removed the used one. At bootup,
> report
> indicated that slot 0 was populated and slot 1 empty. I then pulled the
> Viking and inserted the used one in slot 0. When I powered up I got 3
> beeps,
> and bootup process stopped.
>
> Leaving the used in slot 0, I put the new in slot 1. Got a beep at
> powerup,
> but bootup proceeded and XP started up. System says only 512MB total
> memory.
> Rebooted and went into BIOS setup. It shows 512MB for whichever slot the
> Viking is in, but Not Intitialized for the slot used module is located.
> (With
> just the Viking in slot 0, BIOS reports 512MB for slot 0 and Not Installed
> for slot 1).
>
> I also tried the Viking 512MB in slot 0 and one of the two 256MB modules
> which I know were working in slot 1. Bootup to XP went fine, but total
> memory
> still reports only 512MB.
>
> The AIDA32 report on the modules are identical (PC133,
> non-ecc,unregistered,
> etc) with one exception. The Viking module's width is 72-bit, but the used
> module is 64-bit.
>
> So, I guess my question is: Is the used stick bad, or is it incompatible
> with the 4100, or is the max memory for the 4100 only 512MB?
 
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Memory width has to be the same and the used module is incompatible with the
system but it may not be "bad." Return to place of purchase for refund if
possible and purchase an IDENTICAL Viking stick as the second stick.

"SonomaAirporter" <SonomaAirporter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:AB559E0E-D55E-4E1B-B7A6-C90BB0C24E26@microsoft.com...
> I'm trying to upgrade my older Dell Dimension 4100 at home from 512MB ram
to
> 1GB. The AIDA32 utility I use shows I have two DIMM slots each populated
with
> a 256MB PC133 non-ECC module. I purchased two 512MB PC133 non-ECC modules.
> One, a Viking, is brand new and the other, no name showing, is used. I
put
> the new Viking in slot 0 and the used one in slot 1.
>
> When I booted up, AIDA32 reported correctly that both slots were populated
> with 512MB modules. But it also reported that total memory was only 512MB.
So
> I left the new Viking in slot 0 and removed the used one. At bootup,
report
> indicated that slot 0 was populated and slot 1 empty. I then pulled the
> Viking and inserted the used one in slot 0. When I powered up I got 3
beeps,
> and bootup process stopped.
>
> Leaving the used in slot 0, I put the new in slot 1. Got a beep at
powerup,
> but bootup proceeded and XP started up. System says only 512MB total
memory.
> Rebooted and went into BIOS setup. It shows 512MB for whichever slot the
> Viking is in, but Not Intitialized for the slot used module is located.
(With
> just the Viking in slot 0, BIOS reports 512MB for slot 0 and Not Installed
> for slot 1).
>
> I also tried the Viking 512MB in slot 0 and one of the two 256MB modules
> which I know were working in slot 1. Bootup to XP went fine, but total
memory
> still reports only 512MB.
>
> The AIDA32 report on the modules are identical (PC133,
non-ecc,unregistered,
> etc) with one exception. The Viking module's width is 72-bit, but the used
> module is 64-bit.
>
> So, I guess my question is: Is the used stick bad, or is it incompatible
> with the 4100, or is the max memory for the 4100 only 512MB?
>
 
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The 4100 has a max of 512 ie. 2 slots of 256 each.
Anne

"Jerry" <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote in message
news:ekV$aKb$EHA.2584@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> AIDA32 is obsolete. Use Everest Home Edition from www.lavalys.com
>
> "SonomaAirporter" <SonomaAirporter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:AB559E0E-D55E-4E1B-B7A6-C90BB0C24E26@microsoft.com...
>> I'm trying to upgrade my older Dell Dimension 4100 at home from 512MB ram
>> to
>> 1GB. The AIDA32 utility I use shows I have two DIMM slots each populated
>> with
>> a 256MB PC133 non-ECC module. I purchased two 512MB PC133 non-ECC
>> modules.
>> One, a Viking, is brand new and the other, no name showing, is used. I
>> put
>> the new Viking in slot 0 and the used one in slot 1.
>>
>> When I booted up, AIDA32 reported correctly that both slots were
>> populated
>> with 512MB modules. But it also reported that total memory was only
>> 512MB. So
>> I left the new Viking in slot 0 and removed the used one. At bootup,
>> report
>> indicated that slot 0 was populated and slot 1 empty. I then pulled the
>> Viking and inserted the used one in slot 0. When I powered up I got 3
>> beeps,
>> and bootup process stopped.
>>
>> Leaving the used in slot 0, I put the new in slot 1. Got a beep at
>> powerup,
>> but bootup proceeded and XP started up. System says only 512MB total
>> memory.
>> Rebooted and went into BIOS setup. It shows 512MB for whichever slot the
>> Viking is in, but Not Intitialized for the slot used module is located.
>> (With
>> just the Viking in slot 0, BIOS reports 512MB for slot 0 and Not
>> Installed
>> for slot 1).
>>
>> I also tried the Viking 512MB in slot 0 and one of the two 256MB modules
>> which I know were working in slot 1. Bootup to XP went fine, but total
>> memory
>> still reports only 512MB.
>>
>> The AIDA32 report on the modules are identical (PC133,
>> non-ecc,unregistered,
>> etc) with one exception. The Viking module's width is 72-bit, but the
>> used
>> module is 64-bit.
>>
>> So, I guess my question is: Is the used stick bad, or is it incompatible
>> with the 4100, or is the max memory for the 4100 only 512MB?
>
>
 
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SonomaAirporter wrote:
> I'm trying to upgrade my older Dell Dimension 4100 at home from 512MB ram to
> 1GB. The AIDA32 utility I use shows I have two DIMM slots each populated with
> a 256MB PC133 non-ECC module. I purchased two 512MB PC133 non-ECC modules.
> One, a Viking, is brand new and the other, no name showing, is used. I put
> the new Viking in slot 0 and the used one in slot 1.
>
> When I booted up, AIDA32 reported correctly that both slots were populated
> with 512MB modules. But it also reported that total memory was only 512MB. So
> I left the new Viking in slot 0 and removed the used one. At bootup, report
> indicated that slot 0 was populated and slot 1 empty. I then pulled the
> Viking and inserted the used one in slot 0. When I powered up I got 3 beeps,
> and bootup process stopped.
>
> Leaving the used in slot 0, I put the new in slot 1. Got a beep at powerup,
> but bootup proceeded and XP started up. System says only 512MB total memory.
> Rebooted and went into BIOS setup. It shows 512MB for whichever slot the
> Viking is in, but Not Intitialized for the slot used module is located. (With
> just the Viking in slot 0, BIOS reports 512MB for slot 0 and Not Installed
> for slot 1).
>
> I also tried the Viking 512MB in slot 0 and one of the two 256MB modules
> which I know were working in slot 1. Bootup to XP went fine, but total memory
> still reports only 512MB.
>
> The AIDA32 report on the modules are identical (PC133, non-ecc,unregistered,
> etc) with one exception. The Viking module's width is 72-bit, but the used
> module is 64-bit.
>
> So, I guess my question is: Is the used stick bad, or is it incompatible
> with the 4100, or is the max memory for the 4100 only 512MB?


It is absolutely essential that any new RAM module(s) be fully
compatible with both the motherboard and/or any other RAM module(s)
already in the system. Additionally, there are sometimes jumper
switches on older motherboards that need to be reset for new RAM
configurations. Consult your motherboard's manual or the
manufacturer's web site for specific instructions and compatibility
requirements.

If you cannot lay your hands upon the computer's manual and the
manufacturer doesn't provide a support web site, you can use these
utilities to help determine the correct type of RAM needed:

SiSoft's Sandra
http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/index.php?dir=&location=sware_dl&lang=en

Belarc Advisor
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

Unlimited Possibilities' AIDA32
http://forum.aumha.org/overflow/aida32.zip

Lavalys' Everest Home
http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1&lang=en

Also, Crucial Memory's web site (www.crucial.com) has a database
to help to find the right RAM for your specific make and model
computer and/or motherboard.

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Bruce Chambers

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SonomaAirporter wrote:
> I'm trying to upgrade my older Dell Dimension 4100 at home from 512MB
> ram to 1GB. The AIDA32 utility I use shows I have two DIMM slots each
> populated with a 256MB PC133 non-ECC module. I purchased two 512MB
> PC133 non-ECC modules. One, a Viking, is brand new and the other, no
> name showing, is used. I put the new Viking in slot 0 and the used
> one in slot 1.
>
> When I booted up, AIDA32 reported correctly that both slots were
> populated with 512MB modules. But it also reported that total memory
> was only 512MB. So I left the new Viking in slot 0 and removed the
> used one. At bootup, report indicated that slot 0 was populated and
> slot 1 empty. I then pulled the Viking and inserted the used one in
> slot 0. When I powered up I got 3 beeps, and bootup process stopped.
>
> Leaving the used in slot 0, I put the new in slot 1. Got a beep at
> powerup, but bootup proceeded and XP started up. System says only
> 512MB total memory. Rebooted and went into BIOS setup. It shows 512MB
> for whichever slot the Viking is in, but Not Intitialized for the
> slot used module is located. (With just the Viking in slot 0, BIOS
> reports 512MB for slot 0 and Not Installed for slot 1).
>
> I also tried the Viking 512MB in slot 0 and one of the two 256MB
> modules which I know were working in slot 1. Bootup to XP went fine,
> but total memory still reports only 512MB.
>
> The AIDA32 report on the modules are identical (PC133,
> non-ecc,unregistered, etc) with one exception. The Viking module's
> width is 72-bit, but the used module is 64-bit.
>
> So, I guess my question is: Is the used stick bad, or is it
> incompatible with the 4100, or is the max memory for the 4100 only
> 512MB?


You need to learn a little about your system before upgrading. When I buy
RAM for older systems, I always use Crucial because they have a tool that
will tell you what RAM they *guarantee* to work in your system - bought some
recently for an Optiplex GX150 - it worked perfectly - unfortunately, the
PSU died just two hours later and Dell wanted £400 to replace it.
Unfortunately it's a non-standard system and cannot take a standard PSU.

Anyway, back to your 'issue'. Had you decided to go with Crucial - and not
generic and a brand I've never heard of - you would have seen what your
system could take immediately. It's the same vintage as my father's
Optiplex - and has 2 slots each with a maximum capacity of 256MB (same as
the GX150).

--
Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling
on salads.
 
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Thanks to all of you for your helpful advice. You were quite helpful.
 
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