What kind of case?

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"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi -
>
> I have started the process of purchasing my components to build my
> computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE
> motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case for it. Does anyone
> else have this motherboard or know of a site I could look at to find one?
> After looking at the design of the motherboard, it looks like the audio
> ports are horizontal, compared to most being vertical.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Newtechie
>

The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the case so the jacks are
exposed properly. You just remove the one from the case, install the one
that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.

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I just went through this...I rebuild my system into a new case.I bought an
Aluminum Chen-Ming 601AE.Nice large case,reasonably priced,easy to work with.The
I/O shield that came with the case was easy to push in...you push from the
outside and pry on the inside and it pops right out or should I say in.Then I
installed the correct shield for my MOBO and I just pushed and it snapped into
place.
It was my first attempt at this and was really surprised at how easy it actually
was.
good luck
peter
"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi -
>
> I have started the process of purchasing my components to build my computer. I
> decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE motherboard and I'm
> having trouble finding a case for it. Does anyone else have this motherboard
> or know of a site I could look at to find one?
> After looking at the design of the motherboard, it looks like the audio ports
> are horizontal, compared to most being vertical.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Newtechie
>

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Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the contents of the package and
it does come with one.


"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Retail motherboards do come with the insert when the ports
> are not in the "standard" arrangement. These are for RFI
> shielding and electrical grounding. They are also thin
> sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you can cut
> yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch section is useful
> to press/tap the new plate in without bend or other damage.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
> |
> | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > Hi -
> | >
> | > I have started the process of purchasing my components
> to build my
> | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000
> PRO-G" i865PE
> | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case for
> it. Does anyone
> | > else have this motherboard or know of a site I could
> look at to find one?
> | > After looking at the design of the motherboard, it looks
> like the audio
> | > ports are horizontal, compared to most being vertical.
> | >
> | > Thanks in advance.
> | >
> | > Newtechie
> | >
> |
> | The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the case so
> the jacks are
> | exposed properly. You just remove the one from the case,
> install the one
> | that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.
> |
> |
>
>

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You're welcome. Take your time and follow the instructions.
Don't over-tighten and be careful when you insert or remove
IDE and other connectors, you can damage the mobo.

Don't throw any extra parts away, put them in a container
and save them, you may want some screw or stand-off next
week or next year.

Save all the paper-work.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
newsxPxluZBFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the contents of the
package and
| it does come with one.
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| > Retail motherboards do come with the insert when the
ports
| > are not in the "standard" arrangement. These are for
RFI
| > shielding and electrical grounding. They are also thin
| > sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you can cut
| > yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch section is
useful
| > to press/tap the new plate in without bend or other
damage.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
| > news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
| > |
| > | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | > Hi -
| > | >
| > | > I have started the process of purchasing my
components
| > to build my
| > | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000
| > PRO-G" i865PE
| > | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case
for
| > it. Does anyone
| > | > else have this motherboard or know of a site I could
| > look at to find one?
| > | > After looking at the design of the motherboard, it
looks
| > like the audio
| > | > ports are horizontal, compared to most being
vertical.
| > | >
| > | > Thanks in advance.
| > | >
| > | > Newtechie
| > | >
| > |
| > | The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the
case so
| > the jacks are
| > | exposed properly. You just remove the one from the
case,
| > install the one
| > | that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

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I built my very 1st home built PC last month and it was fabulous!

One idea I came up with, just because I was so paranoid about the
stand-offs, was to put the stand-offs in the case where I thought they
should go. Then I placed the motherboard on top of them, where it should go,
and then to a marker, and through each of the connecting holes in the
motherboard, I marked the stand-off underneath. Then I took the motherboard
off, and verified that I marked all the stand-offs that I had in place. That
way, if I had a stand-off in the wrong spot, it wouldn't have gotten marked.

Have fun!


"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:e6Iyk3aBFHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You're welcome. Take your time and follow the instructions.
> Don't over-tighten and be careful when you insert or remove
> IDE and other connectors, you can damage the mobo.
>
> Don't throw any extra parts away, put them in a container
> and save them, you may want some screw or stand-off next
> week or next year.
>
> Save all the paper-work.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> newsxPxluZBFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the contents of the
> package and
> | it does come with one.
> |
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
> in message
> | news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> | > Retail motherboards do come with the insert when the
> ports
> | > are not in the "standard" arrangement. These are for
> RFI
> | > shielding and electrical grounding. They are also thin
> | > sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you can cut
> | > yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch section is
> useful
> | > to press/tap the new plate in without bend or other
> damage.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> | >
> | >
> | > "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> | > news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
> | > |
> | > | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Hi -
> | > | >
> | > | > I have started the process of purchasing my
> components
> | > to build my
> | > | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000
> | > PRO-G" i865PE
> | > | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case
> for
> | > it. Does anyone
> | > | > else have this motherboard or know of a site I could
> | > look at to find one?
> | > | > After looking at the design of the motherboard, it
> looks
> | > like the audio
> | > | > ports are horizontal, compared to most being
> vertical.
> | > | >
> | > | > Thanks in advance.
> | > | >
> | > | > Newtechie
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > | The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the
> case so
> | > the jacks are
> | > | exposed properly. You just remove the one from the
> case,
> | > install the one
> | > | that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

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S T O P I M M E D I A T E L Y !!!

If you have to ask what standoffs are, you have no business building
your computer, at least not without supervision. Seek help first!

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:30:44 -0600, "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Hi Myob,
>
>I'm sure it will be fun and I can't wait to get started! I have two
>questions for you: What are standoffs and how long did it take you to
>assemble yours?
>
>Newtechie
>
>"myob" <myob@myob.com> wrote in message
>news:us9Ngf9BFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I built my very 1st home built PC last month and it was fabulous!
>>
>> One idea I came up with, just because I was so paranoid about the
>> stand-offs, was to put the stand-offs in the case where I thought they
>> should go. Then I placed the motherboard on top of them, where it should
>> go,
>> and then to a marker, and through each of the connecting holes in the
>> motherboard, I marked the stand-off underneath. Then I took the
>> motherboard
>> off, and verified that I marked all the stand-offs that I had in place.
>> That
>> way, if I had a stand-off in the wrong spot, it wouldn't have gotten
>> marked.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>>
>> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
>> news:e6Iyk3aBFHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> You're welcome. Take your time and follow the instructions.
>>> Don't over-tighten and be careful when you insert or remove
>>> IDE and other connectors, you can damage the mobo.
>>>
>>> Don't throw any extra parts away, put them in a container
>>> and save them, you may want some screw or stand-off next
>>> week or next year.
>>>
>>> Save all the paper-work.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> newsxPxluZBFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> | Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the contents of the
>>> package and
>>> | it does come with one.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
>>> in message
>>> | news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> | > Retail motherboards do come with the insert when the
>>> ports
>>> | > are not in the "standard" arrangement. These are for
>>> RFI
>>> | > shielding and electrical grounding. They are also thin
>>> | > sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you can cut
>>> | > yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch section is
>>> useful
>>> | > to press/tap the new plate in without bend or other
>>> damage.
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > --
>>> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> | > "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> | > news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
>>> | > |
>>> | > | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> | > | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> | > | > Hi -
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > I have started the process of purchasing my
>>> components
>>> | > to build my
>>> | > | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000
>>> | > PRO-G" i865PE
>>> | > | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case
>>> for
>>> | > it. Does anyone
>>> | > | > else have this motherboard or know of a site I could
>>> | > look at to find one?
>>> | > | > After looking at the design of the motherboard, it
>>> looks
>>> | > like the audio
>>> | > | > ports are horizontal, compared to most being
>>> vertical.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > Thanks in advance.
>>> | > | >
>>> | > | > Newtechie
>>> | > | >
>>> | > |
>>> | > | The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the
>>> case so
>>> | > the jacks are
>>> | > | exposed properly. You just remove the one from the
>>> case,
>>> | > install the one
>>> | > | that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.
>>> | > |
>>> | > |
>>> | >
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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First of all, I don't appreciate your tone - there was no need for the caps.
If I knew it all, I wouldn't be here getting assistance, so common sense
should tell you that's why I'm here. I'm not advanced as some here but I'm
not stupid either. I now know what stand-offs are, but for future reference
I suggest you answer someone's question or keep your comments to yourself!

"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:0gotv0t94n07jf1ldt8l5r37223vddat0d@4ax.com...
>S T O P I M M E D I A T E L Y !!!
>
> If you have to ask what standoffs are, you have no business building
> your computer, at least not without supervision. Seek help first!
>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:30:44 -0600, "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi Myob,
>>
>>I'm sure it will be fun and I can't wait to get started! I have two
>>questions for you: What are standoffs and how long did it take you to
>>assemble yours?
>>
>>Newtechie
>>
>>"myob" <myob@myob.com> wrote in message
>>news:us9Ngf9BFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>I built my very 1st home built PC last month and it was fabulous!
>>>
>>> One idea I came up with, just because I was so paranoid about the
>>> stand-offs, was to put the stand-offs in the case where I thought they
>>> should go. Then I placed the motherboard on top of them, where it should
>>> go,
>>> and then to a marker, and through each of the connecting holes in the
>>> motherboard, I marked the stand-off underneath. Then I took the
>>> motherboard
>>> off, and verified that I marked all the stand-offs that I had in place.
>>> That
>>> way, if I had a stand-off in the wrong spot, it wouldn't have gotten
>>> marked.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
>>> news:e6Iyk3aBFHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> You're welcome. Take your time and follow the instructions.
>>>> Don't over-tighten and be careful when you insert or remove
>>>> IDE and other connectors, you can damage the mobo.
>>>>
>>>> Don't throw any extra parts away, put them in a container
>>>> and save them, you may want some screw or stand-off next
>>>> week or next year.
>>>>
>>>> Save all the paper-work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>>> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> newsxPxluZBFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> | Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the contents of the
>>>> package and
>>>> | it does come with one.
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
>>>> in message
>>>> | news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > Retail motherboards do come with the insert when the
>>>> ports
>>>> | > are not in the "standard" arrangement. These are for
>>>> RFI
>>>> | > shielding and electrical grounding. They are also thin
>>>> | > sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you can cut
>>>> | > yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch section is
>>>> useful
>>>> | > to press/tap the new plate in without bend or other
>>>> damage.
>>>> | >
>>>> | >
>>>> | > --
>>>> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>>> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>>> | >
>>>> | >
>>>> | > "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> | > news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> | > | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > | > Hi -
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > I have started the process of purchasing my
>>>> components
>>>> | > to build my
>>>> | > | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000
>>>> | > PRO-G" i865PE
>>>> | > | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case
>>>> for
>>>> | > it. Does anyone
>>>> | > | > else have this motherboard or know of a site I could
>>>> | > look at to find one?
>>>> | > | > After looking at the design of the motherboard, it
>>>> looks
>>>> | > like the audio
>>>> | > | > ports are horizontal, compared to most being
>>>> vertical.
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > Thanks in advance.
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > | > Newtechie
>>>> | > | >
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > | The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the
>>>> case so
>>>> | > the jacks are
>>>> | > | exposed properly. You just remove the one from the
>>>> case,
>>>> | > install the one
>>>> | > | that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.
>>>> | > |
>>>> | > |
>>>> | >
>>>> | >
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:20:35 -0600, Newtechie wrote:

> Thanks Jim! I am pre-planning as we speak. I have an old computer which
> I'm practicing on so hopefully that'll help. Is there a way to keep the
> backside of the motherboard from touching the case?

Since you won't have POWER turned on, and the power cord will NOT be
connected to the PSU, if the MB touches the case during install you won't
have a problem.

You just need to make sure that you put as many stand-off screws in the
motherboard as you did stand-offs on the metal backplate. You might also
consider some of the plastic stand-off types in some locations if you run
out of metal ones.

One last thing - make sure you use the right screws - you DO NOT want the
screw head going past the round doughnut pad around the hole - certainly
not so that it touches any electrical circuits.


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Hi RonK,

How many standoffs should I put on the case and how many should I place on
the motherboard? I just broke down an old system and there was only 3 on
the case and 2 on the motherboard.

Newtechie


"RonK" <I'mhere@home.com> wrote in message
news:7lDLd.4745$Ck1.822348@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Just take your time - recheck the assembly as it goes together. It is a
> great feeling after your first computer assembly is successful. If you do
> have any problems - just post back here.
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news0REmtACFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> First of all, I don't appreciate your tone - there was no need for the
>> caps. If I knew it all, I wouldn't be here getting assistance, so common
>> sense should tell you that's why I'm here. I'm not advanced as some here
>> but I'm not stupid either. I now know what stand-offs are, but for
>> future reference I suggest you answer someone's question or keep your
>> comments to yourself!
>>
>> "NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
>> news:0gotv0t94n07jf1ldt8l5r37223vddat0d@4ax.com...
>>>S T O P I M M E D I A T E L Y !!!
>>>
>>> If you have to ask what standoffs are, you have no business building
>>> your computer, at least not without supervision. Seek help first!
>>>
>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:30:44 -0600, "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Myob,
>>>>
>>>>I'm sure it will be fun and I can't wait to get started! I have two
>>>>questions for you: What are standoffs and how long did it take you to
>>>>assemble yours?
>>>>
>>>>Newtechie
>>>>
>>>>"myob" <myob@myob.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:us9Ngf9BFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I built my very 1st home built PC last month and it was fabulous!
>>>>>
>>>>> One idea I came up with, just because I was so paranoid about the
>>>>> stand-offs, was to put the stand-offs in the case where I thought they
>>>>> should go. Then I placed the motherboard on top of them, where it
>>>>> should
>>>>> go,
>>>>> and then to a marker, and through each of the connecting holes in the
>>>>> motherboard, I marked the stand-off underneath. Then I took the
>>>>> motherboard
>>>>> off, and verified that I marked all the stand-offs that I had in
>>>>> place.
>>>>> That
>>>>> way, if I had a stand-off in the wrong spot, it wouldn't have gotten
>>>>> marked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e6Iyk3aBFHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> You're welcome. Take your time and follow the instructions.
>>>>>> Don't over-tighten and be careful when you insert or remove
>>>>>> IDE and other connectors, you can damage the mobo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't throw any extra parts away, put them in a container
>>>>>> and save them, you may want some screw or stand-off next
>>>>>> week or next year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Save all the paper-work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>>>>> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> newsxPxluZBFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> | Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the contents of the
>>>>>> package and
>>>>>> | it does come with one.
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
>>>>>> in message
>>>>>> | news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> | > Retail motherboards do come with the insert when the
>>>>>> ports
>>>>>> | > are not in the "standard" arrangement. These are for
>>>>>> RFI
>>>>>> | > shielding and electrical grounding. They are also thin
>>>>>> | > sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you can cut
>>>>>> | > yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch section is
>>>>>> useful
>>>>>> | > to press/tap the new plate in without bend or other
>>>>>> damage.
>>>>>> | >
>>>>>> | >
>>>>>> | > --
>>>>>> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>>>>> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>>>>> | >
>>>>>> | >
>>>>>> | > "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> | > news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
>>>>>> | > |
>>>>>> | > | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> | > | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> | > | > Hi -
>>>>>> | > | >
>>>>>> | > | > I have started the process of purchasing my
>>>>>> components
>>>>>> | > to build my
>>>>>> | > | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000
>>>>>> | > PRO-G" i865PE
>>>>>> | > | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> | > it. Does anyone
>>>>>> | > | > else have this motherboard or know of a site I could
>>>>>> | > look at to find one?
>>>>>> | > | > After looking at the design of the motherboard, it
>>>>>> looks
>>>>>> | > like the audio
>>>>>> | > | > ports are horizontal, compared to most being
>>>>>> vertical.
>>>>>> | > | >
>>>>>> | > | > Thanks in advance.
>>>>>> | > | >
>>>>>> | > | > Newtechie
>>>>>> | > | >
>>>>>> | > |
>>>>>> | > | The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the
>>>>>> case so
>>>>>> | > the jacks are
>>>>>> | > | exposed properly. You just remove the one from the
>>>>>> case,
>>>>>> | > install the one
>>>>>> | > | that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.
>>>>>> | > |
>>>>>> | > |
>>>>>> | >
>>>>>> | >
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> |
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:47:34 -0600, Newtechie wrote:

> How many standoffs should I put on the case and how many should I place on
> the motherboard? I just broke down an old system and there was only 3 on
> the case and 2 on the motherboard.

All Standoffs go on the metal plate behind the motherboard where there is
a complementary screw hole for them in the motherboard. Stand-offs don't
mount on the motherboard, they mount on the backplate and should be
secured tightly. The screws go through the motherboard into the stand-offs.


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One on every mounting hole on the mobo.


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"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
newsca%23mkBCFHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Hi RonK,
|
| How many standoffs should I put on the case and how many
should I place on
| the motherboard? I just broke down an old system and
there was only 3 on
| the case and 2 on the motherboard.
|
| Newtechie
|
|
| "RonK" <I'mhere@home.com> wrote in message
| news:7lDLd.4745$Ck1.822348@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > Just take your time - recheck the assembly as it goes
together. It is a
| > great feeling after your first computer assembly is
successful. If you do
| > have any problems - just post back here.
| >
| > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > news0REmtACFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| >> First of all, I don't appreciate your tone - there was
no need for the
| >> caps. If I knew it all, I wouldn't be here getting
assistance, so common
| >> sense should tell you that's why I'm here. I'm not
advanced as some here
| >> but I'm not stupid either. I now know what stand-offs
are, but for
| >> future reference I suggest you answer someone's
question or keep your
| >> comments to yourself!
| >>
| >> "NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
| >> news:0gotv0t94n07jf1ldt8l5r37223vddat0d@4ax.com...
| >>>S T O P I M M E D I A T E L Y !!!
| >>>
| >>> If you have to ask what standoffs are, you have no
business building
| >>> your computer, at least not without supervision. Seek
help first!
| >>>
| >>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:30:44 -0600, "Newtechie"
<newtechie@nospam.com>
| >>> wrote:
| >>>
| >>>>Hi Myob,
| >>>>
| >>>>I'm sure it will be fun and I can't wait to get
started! I have two
| >>>>questions for you: What are standoffs and how long
did it take you to
| >>>>assemble yours?
| >>>>
| >>>>Newtechie
| >>>>
| >>>>"myob" <myob@myob.com> wrote in message
| >>>>news:us9Ngf9BFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| >>>>>I built my very 1st home built PC last month and it
was fabulous!
| >>>>>
| >>>>> One idea I came up with, just because I was so
paranoid about the
| >>>>> stand-offs, was to put the stand-offs in the case
where I thought they
| >>>>> should go. Then I placed the motherboard on top of
them, where it
| >>>>> should
| >>>>> go,
| >>>>> and then to a marker, and through each of the
connecting holes in the
| >>>>> motherboard, I marked the stand-off underneath. Then
I took the
| >>>>> motherboard
| >>>>> off, and verified that I marked all the stand-offs
that I had in
| >>>>> place.
| >>>>> That
| >>>>> way, if I had a stand-off in the wrong spot, it
wouldn't have gotten
| >>>>> marked.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Have fun!
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
wrote in message
| >>>>> news:e6Iyk3aBFHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| >>>>>> You're welcome. Take your time and follow the
instructions.
| >>>>>> Don't over-tighten and be careful when you insert
or remove
| >>>>>> IDE and other connectors, you can damage the mobo.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Don't throw any extra parts away, put them in a
container
| >>>>>> and save them, you may want some screw or stand-off
next
| >>>>>> week or next year.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Save all the paper-work.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> --
| >>>>>> The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| >>>>>> But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
| >>>>>> newsxPxluZBFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| >>>>>> | Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the
contents of the
| >>>>>> package and
| >>>>>> | it does come with one.
| >>>>>> |
| >>>>>> |
| >>>>>> | "Jim Macklin"
<p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
| >>>>>> in message
| >>>>>> | news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| >>>>>> | > Retail motherboards do come with the insert
when the
| >>>>>> ports
| >>>>>> | > are not in the "standard" arrangement. These
are for
| >>>>>> RFI
| >>>>>> | > shielding and electrical grounding. They are
also thin
| >>>>>> | > sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you
can cut
| >>>>>> | > yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch
section is
| >>>>>> useful
| >>>>>> | > to press/tap the new plate in without bend or
other
| >>>>>> damage.
| >>>>>> | >
| >>>>>> | >
| >>>>>> | > --
| >>>>>> | > The people think the Constitution protects
their rights;
| >>>>>> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| >>>>>> | >
| >>>>>> | >
| >>>>>> | > "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote
in
| >>>>>> message
| >>>>>> | > news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
| >>>>>> | > |
| >>>>>> | > | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in
message
| >>>>>> | > | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| >>>>>> | > | > Hi -
| >>>>>> | > | >
| >>>>>> | > | > I have started the process of purchasing my
| >>>>>> components
| >>>>>> | > to build my
| >>>>>> | > | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte
"GA-8IPE1000
| >>>>>> | > PRO-G" i865PE
| >>>>>> | > | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding
a case
| >>>>>> for
| >>>>>> | > it. Does anyone
| >>>>>> | > | > else have this motherboard or know of a
site I could
| >>>>>> | > look at to find one?
| >>>>>> | > | > After looking at the design of the
motherboard, it
| >>>>>> looks
| >>>>>> | > like the audio
| >>>>>> | > | > ports are horizontal, compared to most
being
| >>>>>> vertical.
| >>>>>> | > | >
| >>>>>> | > | > Thanks in advance.
| >>>>>> | > | >
| >>>>>> | > | > Newtechie
| >>>>>> | > | >
| >>>>>> | > |
| >>>>>> | > | The motherboard should come with a snap-in
for the
| >>>>>> case so
| >>>>>> | > the jacks are
| >>>>>> | > | exposed properly. You just remove the one
from the
| >>>>>> case,
| >>>>>> | > install the one
| >>>>>> | > | that comes with the motherboard, and that's
it.
| >>>>>> | > |
| >>>>>> | > |
| >>>>>> | >
| >>>>>> | >
| >>>>>> |
| >>>>>> |
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

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I've fixed so many computer from folks who decided to "strike out on
their own" and shorted out their fine, brand new motherboard, often
taking out other components as well. I was hoping to stop you from
having this happen, but kids will be kids....

I still recommend getting at least minimal supervision the first time
you, or anybody, builds their own system.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:09:07 -0600, "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com>
wrote:

>First of all, I don't appreciate your tone - there was no need for the caps.
>If I knew it all, I wouldn't be here getting assistance, so common sense
>should tell you that's why I'm here. I'm not advanced as some here but I'm
>not stupid either. I now know what stand-offs are, but for future reference
>I suggest you answer someone's question or keep your comments to yourself!
>
>"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
>news:0gotv0t94n07jf1ldt8l5r37223vddat0d@4ax.com...
>>S T O P I M M E D I A T E L Y !!!
>>
>> If you have to ask what standoffs are, you have no business building
>> your computer, at least not without supervision. Seek help first!
>>
>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:30:44 -0600, "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Myob,
>>>
>>>I'm sure it will be fun and I can't wait to get started! I have two
>>>questions for you: What are standoffs and how long did it take you to
>>>assemble yours?
>>>
>>>Newtechie
>>>
>>>"myob" <myob@myob.com> wrote in message
>>>news:us9Ngf9BFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>I built my very 1st home built PC last month and it was fabulous!
>>>>
>>>> One idea I came up with, just because I was so paranoid about the
>>>> stand-offs, was to put the stand-offs in the case where I thought they
>>>> should go. Then I placed the motherboard on top of them, where it should
>>>> go,
>>>> and then to a marker, and through each of the connecting holes in the
>>>> motherboard, I marked the stand-off underneath. Then I took the
>>>> motherboard
>>>> off, and verified that I marked all the stand-offs that I had in place.
>>>> That
>>>> way, if I had a stand-off in the wrong spot, it wouldn't have gotten
>>>> marked.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
>>>> news:e6Iyk3aBFHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You're welcome. Take your time and follow the instructions.
>>>>> Don't over-tighten and be careful when you insert or remove
>>>>> IDE and other connectors, you can damage the mobo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't throw any extra parts away, put them in a container
>>>>> and save them, you may want some screw or stand-off next
>>>>> week or next year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Save all the paper-work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>>>> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> newsxPxluZBFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | Thanks D. Currie and Jim! I verified the contents of the
>>>>> package and
>>>>> | it does come with one.
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
>>>>> in message
>>>>> | news8Is0KRBFHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > Retail motherboards do come with the insert when the
>>>>> ports
>>>>> | > are not in the "standard" arrangement. These are for
>>>>> RFI
>>>>> | > shielding and electrical grounding. They are also thin
>>>>> | > sheet metal and many are not deburred, so you can cut
>>>>> | > yourself. A small block of wood, a 6 inch section is
>>>>> useful
>>>>> | > to press/tap the new plate in without bend or other
>>>>> damage.
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > --
>>>>> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>>>>> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> | > news:35u6kuF4qb22kU1@individual.net...
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> | > | news:u13$hbQBFHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > | > Hi -
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > I have started the process of purchasing my
>>>>> components
>>>>> | > to build my
>>>>> | > | > computer. I decided to buy the Gigabyte "GA-8IPE1000
>>>>> | > PRO-G" i865PE
>>>>> | > | > motherboard and I'm having trouble finding a case
>>>>> for
>>>>> | > it. Does anyone
>>>>> | > | > else have this motherboard or know of a site I could
>>>>> | > look at to find one?
>>>>> | > | > After looking at the design of the motherboard, it
>>>>> looks
>>>>> | > like the audio
>>>>> | > | > ports are horizontal, compared to most being
>>>>> vertical.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > Thanks in advance.
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > | > Newtechie
>>>>> | > | >
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > | The motherboard should come with a snap-in for the
>>>>> case so
>>>>> | > the jacks are
>>>>> | > | exposed properly. You just remove the one from the
>>>>> case,
>>>>> | > install the one
>>>>> | > | that comes with the motherboard, and that's it.
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | > |
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | >
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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The stand offs worried me as well and they actually were the hardest part of the
whole process.
Determining where to srew them on the Mobo tray was not the problem...the
problem was holding those damn little screws with a non magnetic screwdriver and
getting them in those small holes.It took patience and a few Beers and
Cigarettes to finally get them all in.Then I proceeded to add the rest of the
components.
Before I started I did a Google on Computer builds and came up with some really
good websites... very detailed pictures and videos.
Might I suggest you do that??
peter
"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uzrhknBCFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Leythos,
>
> Which are better? metal or plastic?
>
> Newtechie
>
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.02.01.03.27.55.176466@nowhere.lan...
>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:20:35 -0600, Newtechie wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jim! I am pre-planning as we speak. I have an old computer which
>>> I'm practicing on so hopefully that'll help. Is there a way to keep the
>>> backside of the motherboard from touching the case?
>>
>> Since you won't have POWER turned on, and the power cord will NOT be
>> connected to the PSU, if the MB touches the case during install you won't
>> have a problem.
>>
>> You just need to make sure that you put as many stand-off screws in the
>> motherboard as you did stand-offs on the metal backplate. You might also
>> consider some of the plastic stand-off types in some locations if you run
>> out of metal ones.
>>
>> One last thing - make sure you use the right screws - you DO NOT want the
>> screw head going past the round doughnut pad around the hole - certainly
>> not so that it touches any electrical circuits.
>>
>>
>> --
>> spam999free@rrohio.com
>> remove 999 in order to email me
>>
>
>

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dude, it's not a put down........

it is sound advice, if you don't even know the basics, you stand to fry what
$400-600 worth of parts?
i have been building systems for going on 7 years now, and yes i fried a few
in the beginning due to pride and ego.
BE SURE ABOUT WHAT YOUR DOING.................

doesn't hurt to have an extra set of eyes around.

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Easy,

I can understand that if his first statement wasn't rude and in all caps. I
have no problem with constructive criticism or firm advice but at the same
time I'm gonna be treated as if I'm stupid or don't know anything. I know
the basics of what I'm doing but it doesn't hurt to get others opinions
and/or suggestions. I'm more than sure if I didn't know I wouldn't be
attempting such a task.

"EasyFeelings" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:czZLd.79956$re1.26843@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> dude, it's not a put down........
>
> it is sound advice, if you don't even know the basics, you stand to fry
> what $400-600 worth of parts?
> i have been building systems for going on 7 years now, and yes i fried a
> few in the beginning due to pride and ego.
> BE SURE ABOUT WHAT YOUR DOING.................
>
> doesn't hurt to have an extra set of eyes around.
>

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They make tweezers, screw starters and magnetic screwdrivers
will cause not problems assembling a computer, the magnetic
field strength of a screwdriver is less than that in the
shielded hard drive and floppy drive. Just don't use a
magnetic screwdriver to fix the VHS tape cassette for your
TV.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
newsGDp9HOCFHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| The stand offs worried me as well and they actually were
the hardest part of the
| whole process.
| Determining where to srew them on the Mobo tray was not
the problem...the
| problem was holding those damn little screws with a non
magnetic screwdriver and
| getting them in those small holes.It took patience and a
few Beers and
| Cigarettes to finally get them all in.Then I proceeded to
add the rest of the
| components.
| Before I started I did a Google on Computer builds and
came up with some really
| good websites... very detailed pictures and videos.
| Might I suggest you do that??
| peter
| "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
| news:uzrhknBCFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > Leythos,
| >
| > Which are better? metal or plastic?
| >
| > Newtechie
| >
| >
| > "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
| > newsan.2005.02.01.03.27.55.176466@nowhere.lan...
| >> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:20:35 -0600, Newtechie wrote:
| >>
| >>> Thanks Jim! I am pre-planning as we speak. I have an
old computer which
| >>> I'm practicing on so hopefully that'll help. Is there
a way to keep the
| >>> backside of the motherboard from touching the case?
| >>
| >> Since you won't have POWER turned on, and the power
cord will NOT be
| >> connected to the PSU, if the MB touches the case during
install you won't
| >> have a problem.
| >>
| >> You just need to make sure that you put as many
stand-off screws in the
| >> motherboard as you did stand-offs on the metal
backplate. You might also
| >> consider some of the plastic stand-off types in some
locations if you run
| >> out of metal ones.
| >>
| >> One last thing - make sure you use the right screws -
you DO NOT want the
| >> screw head going past the round doughnut pad around the
hole - certainly
| >> not so that it touches any electrical circuits.
| >>
| >>
| >> --
| >> spam999free@rrohio.com
| >> remove 999 in order to email me
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

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You are absolutely right Ryan! I'll just ignore anymore negative
threads. The energy I spend writing them back could be energy
going into my project.

How long did it take you?

Newtechie

"Ryan" <ryan@email.com> wrote in message
news:%23xOz9AQCFHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Newtechie,
>
> Just ignore the negative. I myself just got done building a P4 2.26
system.
> I must admit, I did not know as much basics as others claim you need
coming
> into the project. Did I mess up? No, I completed the project with no
> problems.
>
> But that is the whole point of these newsgroups as you know. You are doing
> the right thing arming yourself with all the info you need and there's
> nothing wrong with that. The 'know it all' group seem to look down on
> newbies and obviously don't have any time but to cut down newbies with
> insults and negative remarks.
>
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u1XUQwOCFHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Easy,
> >
> > I can understand that if his first statement wasn't rude and in all
caps.
> I
> > have no problem with constructive criticism or firm advice but at the
same
> > time I'm gonna be treated as if I'm stupid or don't know anything. I
know
> > the basics of what I'm doing but it doesn't hurt to get others opinions
> > and/or suggestions. I'm more than sure if I didn't know I wouldn't be
> > attempting such a task.
> >
> > "EasyFeelings" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> > news:czZLd.79956$re1.26843@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > dude, it's not a put down........
> > >
> > > it is sound advice, if you don't even know the basics, you stand to
fry
> > > what $400-600 worth of parts?
> > > i have been building systems for going on 7 years now, and yes i fried
a
> > > few in the beginning due to pride and ego.
> > > BE SURE ABOUT WHAT YOUR DOING.................
> > >
> > > doesn't hurt to have an extra set of eyes around.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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Jim -

Ok - I assembled the motherboard on a sheet on a table. I have the CPU and
ram connected to the motherboard. Since I don't have the power supply or
video card, I can't test it to see if it starts up. I had to figure out for
myself where the holes on the motherboard aligned with the holes on the
metal case because it didn't say in the manual. I think the motherboard
probably touched the metal case just a little as I had to use it to find out
exactly where to place the standoffs. Do you think I could have shorten the
mobo even if the power supply or anything else wasn't connected? Is there a
way of testing it?

Newtechie



"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
newspirA8OCFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Stand-offs came with the ANTEC cases I have used, over a
> dozen. The mobo has mounting holes, the mobo manual will
> show which holes to use. You should have every mounting
> hole on the mobo used. It may be as few as 5 and as many as
> a dozen, depends on the mobo.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u1heYaOCFHA.2380@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | Thanks Peters! I have been reading Tom's hardware.com.
> Very informative I
> | must say and there are a couple of video clips on some
> things. Do you know
> | which site you were used as your guide?
> |
> | As far as the stand offs, do you know how many you used in
> total? Did they
> | come with the case or motherboard?
> |
> | Newtechie
> |
> | "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
> | newsGDp9HOCFHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | > The stand offs worried me as well and they actually were
> the hardest part
> | > of the whole process.
> | > Determining where to srew them on the Mobo tray was not
> the problem...the
> | > problem was holding those damn little screws with a non
> magnetic
> | > screwdriver and getting them in those small holes.It
> took patience and a
> | > few Beers and Cigarettes to finally get them all in.Then
> I proceeded to
> | > add the rest of the components.
> | > Before I started I did a Google on Computer builds and
> came up with some
> | > really good websites... very detailed pictures and
> videos.
> | > Might I suggest you do that??
> | > peter
> | > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > news:uzrhknBCFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | >> Leythos,
> | >>
> | >> Which are better? metal or plastic?
> | >>
> | >> Newtechie
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> | >> newsan.2005.02.01.03.27.55.176466@nowhere.lan...
> | >>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:20:35 -0600, Newtechie wrote:
> | >>>
> | >>>> Thanks Jim! I am pre-planning as we speak. I have
> an old computer
> | >>>> which
> | >>>> I'm practicing on so hopefully that'll help. Is
> there a way to keep
> | >>>> the
> | >>>> backside of the motherboard from touching the case?
> | >>>
> | >>> Since you won't have POWER turned on, and the power
> cord will NOT be
> | >>> connected to the PSU, if the MB touches the case
> during install you
> | >>> won't
> | >>> have a problem.
> | >>>
> | >>> You just need to make sure that you put as many
> stand-off screws in the
> | >>> motherboard as you did stand-offs on the metal
> backplate. You might also
> | >>> consider some of the plastic stand-off types in some
> locations if you
> | >>> run
> | >>> out of metal ones.
> | >>>
> | >>> One last thing - make sure you use the right screws -
> you DO NOT want
> | >>> the
> | >>> screw head going past the round doughnut pad around
> the hole - certainly
> | >>> not so that it touches any electrical circuits.
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>> --
> | >>> spam999free@rrohio.com
> | >>> remove 999 in order to email me
> | >>>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

I have run into a small problem. I can't figure out the connections with
the case fans. On the motherboard, there's two 3-pin connectors - one is
for system fan and the other is for power fan. In my Thermaltake case,
there are 3 fans: front, rear, and on the side door. For the front and
rear fans, how do I know which one to connect goes with the power or system
connector? I'm not for sure about the side door fan either as it has 2 IDE
power wires. Does this connect directly to the power supply?


"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:u83$R6aCFHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> As long as there is no power applied, you can't short
> anything. When I did mine, I put the mobo in the case, with
> the ports aligned to the back panel. Then I used a Magic
> Marker to mark the holes on the case. The goal is to fully
> support the mobo and not have anything touching the backside
> of the mobo that could short it out. That means no screws
> left to rattle around too.
>
> When you get it assembled, double check that all the fans
> are connected correctly and connect the monitor, keyboard
> and mouse. Turn it on and it should perform the POST (power
> on self test) and then display(turned ON too) the message
> that there is no operating system installed. It will have
> some beeps on the way as it does that. Check the BIOS setup,
> make sure the CD is the first device for boot order. Insert
> the XP CD and reboot it, just press the power switch twice.
> It will detect the XP CD (make sure the BIOS is set to first
> boot device)
>
> Follow the prompts. As soon as XP is loaded, install the
> mobo drivers that come on the CD with the mobo. Just have
> the bare bones, no printers, scanners or other devices
> connected until later.
> Then, created your Internet connection, turn the firewall
> ON, and do Windows update.
> Then install any additional hardware, applications and when
> the system is running properly, install your backed up data.
> It is best to do one item at a time so you know what is
> causing problems should any happen.
>
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23256NwaCFHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | Jim -
> |
> | Ok - I assembled the motherboard on a sheet on a table. I
> have the CPU and
> | ram connected to the motherboard. Since I don't have the
> power supply or
> | video card, I can't test it to see if it starts up. I had
> to figure out for
> | myself where the holes on the motherboard aligned with the
> holes on the
> | metal case because it didn't say in the manual. I think
> the motherboard
> | probably touched the metal case just a little as I had to
> use it to find out
> | exactly where to place the standoffs. Do you think I
> could have shorten the
> | mobo even if the power supply or anything else wasn't
> connected? Is there a
> | way of testing it?
> |
> | Newtechie
> |
> |
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
> in message
> | newspirA8OCFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > Stand-offs came with the ANTEC cases I have used, over a
> | > dozen. The mobo has mounting holes, the mobo manual
> will
> | > show which holes to use. You should have every mounting
> | > hole on the mobo used. It may be as few as 5 and as
> many as
> | > a dozen, depends on the mobo.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> | >
> | >
> | > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > news:u1heYaOCFHA.2380@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > | Thanks Peters! I have been reading Tom's
> hardware.com.
> | > Very informative I
> | > | must say and there are a couple of video clips on some
> | > things. Do you know
> | > | which site you were used as your guide?
> | > |
> | > | As far as the stand offs, do you know how many you
> used in
> | > total? Did they
> | > | come with the case or motherboard?
> | > |
> | > | Newtechie
> | > |
> | > | "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
> | > | newsGDp9HOCFHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | > | > The stand offs worried me as well and they actually
> were
> | > the hardest part
> | > | > of the whole process.
> | > | > Determining where to srew them on the Mobo tray was
> not
> | > the problem...the
> | > | > problem was holding those damn little screws with a
> non
> | > magnetic
> | > | > screwdriver and getting them in those small holes.It
> | > took patience and a
> | > | > few Beers and Cigarettes to finally get them all
> in.Then
> | > I proceeded to
> | > | > add the rest of the components.
> | > | > Before I started I did a Google on Computer builds
> and
> | > came up with some
> | > | > really good websites... very detailed pictures and
> | > videos.
> | > | > Might I suggest you do that??
> | > | > peter
> | > | > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:uzrhknBCFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | > | >> Leythos,
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Which are better? metal or plastic?
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Newtechie
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> | > | >> newsan.2005.02.01.03.27.55.176466@nowhere.lan...
> | > | >>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:20:35 -0600, Newtechie
> wrote:
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>>> Thanks Jim! I am pre-planning as we speak. I
> have
> | > an old computer
> | > | >>>> which
> | > | >>>> I'm practicing on so hopefully that'll help. Is
> | > there a way to keep
> | > | >>>> the
> | > | >>>> backside of the motherboard from touching the
> case?
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> Since you won't have POWER turned on, and the
> power
> | > cord will NOT be
> | > | >>> connected to the PSU, if the MB touches the case
> | > during install you
> | > | >>> won't
> | > | >>> have a problem.
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> You just need to make sure that you put as many
> | > stand-off screws in the
> | > | >>> motherboard as you did stand-offs on the metal
> | > backplate. You might also
> | > | >>> consider some of the plastic stand-off types in
> some
> | > locations if you
> | > | >>> run
> | > | >>> out of metal ones.
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> One last thing - make sure you use the right
> screws -
> | > you DO NOT want
> | > | >>> the
> | > | >>> screw head going past the round doughnut pad
> around
> | > the hole - certainly
> | > | >>> not so that it touches any electrical circuits.
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> --
> | > | >>> spam999free@rrohio.com
> | > | >>> remove 999 in order to email me
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware (More info?)

It would help if we knew the Mobo you were installing
usually the power fan is for the fan in the PSU
There usually is a small wire comes off the PSU with a 3pin connector
The system Fan could be the CPU cooler........but nowadays mobo usually have 3
connectors with the 3rd one labelled Cpu_fan.
On the other hand I am used to AMD Systems
So if you do not have a Cpu_fan connection then the system fan connection is for
CPU
peter

"Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
newsEJl8fbCFHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I have run into a small problem. I can't figure out the connections with the
>case fans. On the motherboard, there's two 3-pin connectors - one is for
>system fan and the other is for power fan. In my Thermaltake case, there are 3
>fans: front, rear, and on the side door. For the front and rear fans, how do
>I know which one to connect goes with the power or system connector? I'm not
>for sure about the side door fan either as it has 2 IDE power wires. Does this
>connect directly to the power supply?
>
>
> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
> news:u83$R6aCFHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> As long as there is no power applied, you can't short
>> anything. When I did mine, I put the mobo in the case, with
>> the ports aligned to the back panel. Then I used a Magic
>> Marker to mark the holes on the case. The goal is to fully
>> support the mobo and not have anything touching the backside
>> of the mobo that could short it out. That means no screws
>> left to rattle around too.
>>
>> When you get it assembled, double check that all the fans
>> are connected correctly and connect the monitor, keyboard
>> and mouse. Turn it on and it should perform the POST (power
>> on self test) and then display(turned ON too) the message
>> that there is no operating system installed. It will have
>> some beeps on the way as it does that. Check the BIOS setup,
>> make sure the CD is the first device for boot order. Insert
>> the XP CD and reboot it, just press the power switch twice.
>> It will detect the XP CD (make sure the BIOS is set to first
>> boot device)
>>
>> Follow the prompts. As soon as XP is loaded, install the
>> mobo drivers that come on the CD with the mobo. Just have
>> the bare bones, no printers, scanners or other devices
>> connected until later.
>> Then, created your Internet connection, turn the firewall
>> ON, and do Windows update.
>> Then install any additional hardware, applications and when
>> the system is running properly, install your backed up data.
>> It is best to do one item at a time so you know what is
>> causing problems should any happen.
>>
>>
>> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23256NwaCFHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> | Jim -
>> |
>> | Ok - I assembled the motherboard on a sheet on a table. I
>> have the CPU and
>> | ram connected to the motherboard. Since I don't have the
>> power supply or
>> | video card, I can't test it to see if it starts up. I had
>> to figure out for
>> | myself where the holes on the motherboard aligned with the
>> holes on the
>> | metal case because it didn't say in the manual. I think
>> the motherboard
>> | probably touched the metal case just a little as I had to
>> use it to find out
>> | exactly where to place the standoffs. Do you think I
>> could have shorten the
>> | mobo even if the power supply or anything else wasn't
>> connected? Is there a
>> | way of testing it?
>> |
>> | Newtechie
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
>> in message
>> | newspirA8OCFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> | > Stand-offs came with the ANTEC cases I have used, over a
>> | > dozen. The mobo has mounting holes, the mobo manual
>> will
>> | > show which holes to use. You should have every mounting
>> | > hole on the mobo used. It may be as few as 5 and as
>> many as
>> | > a dozen, depends on the mobo.
>> | >
>> | >
>> | > --
>> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>> | >
>> | >
>> | > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> | > news:u1heYaOCFHA.2380@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> | > | Thanks Peters! I have been reading Tom's
>> hardware.com.
>> | > Very informative I
>> | > | must say and there are a couple of video clips on some
>> | > things. Do you know
>> | > | which site you were used as your guide?
>> | > |
>> | > | As far as the stand offs, do you know how many you
>> used in
>> | > total? Did they
>> | > | come with the case or motherboard?
>> | > |
>> | > | Newtechie
>> | > |
>> | > | "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
>> | > | newsGDp9HOCFHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> | > | > The stand offs worried me as well and they actually
>> were
>> | > the hardest part
>> | > | > of the whole process.
>> | > | > Determining where to srew them on the Mobo tray was
>> not
>> | > the problem...the
>> | > | > problem was holding those damn little screws with a
>> non
>> | > magnetic
>> | > | > screwdriver and getting them in those small holes.It
>> | > took patience and a
>> | > | > few Beers and Cigarettes to finally get them all
>> in.Then
>> | > I proceeded to
>> | > | > add the rest of the components.
>> | > | > Before I started I did a Google on Computer builds
>> and
>> | > came up with some
>> | > | > really good websites... very detailed pictures and
>> | > videos.
>> | > | > Might I suggest you do that??
>> | > | > peter
>> | > | > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> | > | > news:uzrhknBCFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> | > | >> Leythos,
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >> Which are better? metal or plastic?
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >> Newtechie
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> | > | >> newsan.2005.02.01.03.27.55.176466@nowhere.lan...
>> | > | >>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:20:35 -0600, Newtechie
>> wrote:
>> | > | >>>
>> | > | >>>> Thanks Jim! I am pre-planning as we speak. I
>> have
>> | > an old computer
>> | > | >>>> which
>> | > | >>>> I'm practicing on so hopefully that'll help. Is
>> | > there a way to keep
>> | > | >>>> the
>> | > | >>>> backside of the motherboard from touching the
>> case?
>> | > | >>>
>> | > | >>> Since you won't have POWER turned on, and the
>> power
>> | > cord will NOT be
>> | > | >>> connected to the PSU, if the MB touches the case
>> | > during install you
>> | > | >>> won't
>> | > | >>> have a problem.
>> | > | >>>
>> | > | >>> You just need to make sure that you put as many
>> | > stand-off screws in the
>> | > | >>> motherboard as you did stand-offs on the metal
>> | > backplate. You might also
>> | > | >>> consider some of the plastic stand-off types in
>> some
>> | > locations if you
>> | > | >>> run
>> | > | >>> out of metal ones.
>> | > | >>>
>> | > | >>> One last thing - make sure you use the right
>> screws -
>> | > you DO NOT want
>> | > | >>> the
>> | > | >>> screw head going past the round doughnut pad
>> around
>> | > the hole - certainly
>> | > | >>> not so that it touches any electrical circuits.
>> | > | >>>
>> | > | >>>
>> | > | >>> --
>> | > | >>> spam999free@rrohio.com
>> | > | >>> remove 999 in order to email me
>> | > | >>>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >>
>> | > | >
>> | > | >
>> | > |
>> | > |
>> | >
>> | >
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>
>