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I have connected a 80gb Hard Dive Primary Slave, which is additional to my
Master Hard Drive 40gb. Master is Seagate and the new slave is Maxtor. CMOS
recognises new Hard Drive as Primary Slave, but Windows XP home does not.???
I have tried the installation wizard to try and get Windows XP to recognise
and install. But failure over and over!!?? What do I do now??

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"Ramson Dying" <Ramson Dying@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have connected a 80gb Hard Dive Primary Slave, which is additional to my
> Master Hard Drive 40gb. Master is Seagate and the new slave is Maxtor.
> CMOS
> recognises new Hard Drive as Primary Slave, but Windows XP home does
> not.???
> I have tried the installation wizard to try and get Windows XP to
> recognise
> and install. But failure over and over!!?? What do I do now??


Go to Computer Management in Administrative Tools. Then select Disk
Management and then right click on the new hard drive and select Change
Drive Letters and Paths. Then format the new disk by right-clicking on the
new drive.

NOTE: You may have to format the drive before assigning a drive letter.
--
William

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He just has to format it to be recognized.He does not have to change the drive's
letter or path
peter
"WTC" <bcrawfordjr(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ramson Dying" <Ramson Dying@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5BCA901C-2911-4144-B63E-5F305DEE3B84@microsoft.com...
>>I have connected a 80gb Hard Dive Primary Slave, which is additional to my
>> Master Hard Drive 40gb. Master is Seagate and the new slave is Maxtor. CMOS
>> recognises new Hard Drive as Primary Slave, but Windows XP home does not.???
>> I have tried the installation wizard to try and get Windows XP to recognise
>> and install. But failure over and over!!?? What do I do now??
>
>
> Go to Computer Management in Administrative Tools. Then select Disk Management
> and then right click on the new hard drive and select Change Drive Letters and
> Paths. Then format the new disk by right-clicking on the new drive.
>
> NOTE: You may have to format the drive before assigning a drive letter.
> --
> William
>
>
>

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"peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
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> He just has to format it to be recognized.He does not have to change the
> drive's letter or path

Thanks, I couldn't remember if you had to do this or not.

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"WTC" wrote:

> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23hNHHyyBFHA.136@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > He just has to format it to be recognized.He does not have to change the
> > drive's letter or path
>
> Thanks, I couldn't remember if you had to do this or not.
>
> --
> William
>
> How do I format the new Hard Drive when Windows XP doesn't even recognise that it is actually there? CMOS instantly recognised it but when subsequently Windows XP boots up then it doesn't recognise that it exists??
>
>

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"Ramson" <Ramson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "WTC" wrote:
>
>> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23hNHHyyBFHA.136@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > He just has to format it to be recognized.He does not have to change
>> > the
>> > drive's letter or path
>>
>> Thanks, I couldn't remember if you had to do this or not.
>>
>> --
>> William
>>
>> How do I format the new Hard Drive when Windows XP doesn't even
>> recognise that it is actually there? CMOS instantly recognised it but
>> when subsequently Windows XP boots up then it doesn't recognise that it
>> exists??
>>
>>


Did you go into Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Disk
Management?

In there you right-click the new drive and select format.

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William

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"WTC" wrote:

> "Ramson" <Ramson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ADFE35BE-6ADC-4AF3-A9E6-B2C1042A278C@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "WTC" wrote:
> >
> >> "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:%23hNHHyyBFHA.136@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> > He just has to format it to be recognized.He does not have to change
> >> > the
> >> > drive's letter or path
> >>
> >> Thanks, I couldn't remember if you had to do this or not.
> >>
> >> --
> >> William
> >>
> >> How do I format the new Hard Drive when Windows XP doesn't even
> >> recognise that it is actually there? CMOS instantly recognised it but
> >> when subsequently Windows XP boots up then it doesn't recognise that it
> >> exists??
> >>
> >>
>
>
> Did you go into Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Disk
> Management?
>
> In there you right-click the new drive and select format.
>
> --
> William
>
>
>
> Yes I did go to Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Disk Management, but there it only shows my master Hard Drive (Disk 0) and my CD-ROM Dive, NO "new Drive"???

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Ramson wrote:

> How do I format the new Hard Drive when Windows XP doesn't even recognise that it is actually there? CMOS instantly recognised it but when subsequently Windows XP boots up then it doesn't recognise that it exists??

Go to Control Panel - Admin Tools - Computer Management, select Disk
Management and look lower right for the graphic of the drive. - it
should show there. Right click in Unallocated Space, take Create
Partition, continue with Format


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"Alex Nichol" wrote:

> Ramson wrote:
>
> > How do I format the new Hard Drive when Windows XP doesn't even recognise that it is actually there? CMOS instantly recognised it but when subsequently Windows XP boots up then it doesn't recognise that it exists??
>
> Go to Control Panel - Admin Tools - Computer Management, select Disk
> Management and look lower right for the graphic of the drive. - it
> should show there. Right click in Unallocated Space, take Create
> Partition, continue with Format
>
> --
> Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
> Bournemouth, U.K. Alexn@mvps.D8E8L.org (remove the D8 bit)
>
Dear Alex,
Thanks for your advice, however when I do go to the Disk Management
and "..look lower right for the graphic of the drive. - it
should show there.."
IT ISN'T THERE??!!
This is what I can't understand! When I first turn my computer on and go
into the setup CMOS, I see the new Primary Slave Hard Drive there (80gb),
but when I continue the boot and Windows XP then boots up, there is no new
drive recognised by Disk management??!!
I am no computer expert but I'm no novice either. I am at a loss to know
what to do. Any further advice will be gratefully received. Many thanks.
Ramson

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ramson wrote:

>IT ISN'T THERE??!!
>This is what I can't understand! When I first turn my computer on and go
>into the setup CMOS, I see the new Primary Slave Hard Drive there (80gb),
>but when I continue the boot and Windows XP then boots up, there is no new
>drive recognised by Disk management??!!

Is it recognised in Device Manager?

And FDISK is NOT the tool


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. Alexn@mvps.D8E8L.org (remove the D8 bit)

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"Alex Nichol" wrote:

> ramson wrote:
>
> >IT ISN'T THERE??!!
> >This is what I can't understand! When I first turn my computer on and go
> >into the setup CMOS, I see the new Primary Slave Hard Drive there (80gb),
> >but when I continue the boot and Windows XP then boots up, there is no new
> >drive recognised by Disk management??!!
>
> Is it recognised in Device Manager?
>
> And FDISK is NOT the tool
>
>
> --
> Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
> Bournemouth, U.K. Alexn@mvps.D8E8L.org (remove the D8 bit)
>
> Is it recognised in Device Manager? NO!
Do I do FDISK?
Many thanks

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>> >> Ramson Dying wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have connected a 80gb Hard Dive Primary Slave, which is additional
>> >>> to my Master Hard Drive 40gb. Master is Seagate and the new slave is
>> >>> Maxtor. CMOS recognises new Hard Drive as Primary Slave, but
Windows XP home does not.??? I have tried the installation wizard
to try and get Windows XP to recognise and install. But failure over
and over!!?? What do I do now??

>> >> Did you partition and format the drive?
Won't the installation CD do the formatting if you ask it to?
>> >
>> >*TimDaniels*

>> Normally...yes.
>>
>> But, as you can see, he's havin' problems...which may have NOTHING to do
>> with partitioning and/or formatting.
>>
>> The only way to know for sure is to boot into a floppy and partition
>> and format it. After that, if he still has the problem, we can move
>> forward.
>> Have a nice one...
>>
>> Trent

"ramson" <ramson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
I'm still no closer ! I've upgraded my BIOS successfully but to no
effect??!! The Windows XP still does not recognise the fact that an
additional HD has been installed yet the CMOS recognises it as from the
beginning of this frustrating exercise! What now?? Are there CMOS and/or
BIOS and/or XP settings that I need to change? I'm not sure I understand the
floopy boot disk, what floppy boot disk?
Have mercy!

Ramson dying/barely breathing!

Ramson:
1. I assume that when you installed your 80 GB HD it was a virgin disk,
i.e., not partitioned/formatted.

2. Ordinarily, after a unpartitioned/unformatted HD is installed, the
Initialize and Convert Disk Wizard dialog box will automatically appear upon
bootup or will when you access the Disk Management utility (Start > Control
Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management). Is
this what you meant when you referred to the "installation wizard"? If so,
what precisely occurred when you followed the steps within the I&CDW? What
do you mean when you state you state you had "failure over and over". Error
messages of one kind or another?

3. You do understand that you need to partition and format this drive
through the Disk Management utility, do you not? And that the Initialize and
Convert Disk Wizard is the first step in the process, right?

4. The reference to the bootable floppy disk one of the responders made was
to a Windows98/Me startup disk or similar bootable floppy disk. You can use
such a disk to partition/format your 80 GB HD but this will result in
establishing a FAT32 file system, not the NTFS file system which is the more
desirable file system in a WinXP environment. There's no need to use a
bootable floppy disk to partition/format your HD.

Please give the precise detailed steps you undertook to partition and format
your new HD. Statements such as "failure over and over" and general pleas
for help are not useful to those of us who might help you solve your
problem.
Art

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"Art" wrote:

> >> >> Ramson Dying wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I have connected a 80gb Hard Dive Primary Slave, which is additional
> >> >>> to my Master Hard Drive 40gb. Master is Seagate and the new slave is
> >> >>> Maxtor. CMOS recognises new Hard Drive as Primary Slave, but
> Windows XP home does not.??? I have tried the installation wizard
> to try and get Windows XP to recognise and install. But failure over
> and over!!?? What do I do now??
>
> >> >> Did you partition and format the drive?
> Won't the installation CD do the formatting if you ask it to?
> >> >
> >> >*TimDaniels*
>
> >> Normally...yes.
> >>
> >> But, as you can see, he's havin' problems...which may have NOTHING to do
> >> with partitioning and/or formatting.
> >>
> >> The only way to know for sure is to boot into a floppy and partition
> >> and format it. After that, if he still has the problem, we can move
> >> forward.
> >> Have a nice one...
> >>
> >> Trent
>
> "ramson" <ramson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> I'm still no closer ! I've upgraded my BIOS successfully but to no
> effect??!! The Windows XP still does not recognise the fact that an
> additional HD has been installed yet the CMOS recognises it as from the
> beginning of this frustrating exercise! What now?? Are there CMOS and/or
> BIOS and/or XP settings that I need to change? I'm not sure I understand the
> floopy boot disk, what floppy boot disk?
> Have mercy!
>
> Ramson dying/barely breathing!
>
> Ramson:
> 1. I assume that when you installed your 80 GB HD it was a virgin disk,
> i.e., not partitioned/formatted.
>
> 2. Ordinarily, after a unpartitioned/unformatted HD is installed, the
> Initialize and Convert Disk Wizard dialog box will automatically appear upon
> bootup or will when you access the Disk Management utility (Start > Control
> Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management). Is
> this what you meant when you referred to the "installation wizard"? If so,
> what precisely occurred when you followed the steps within the I&CDW? What
> do you mean when you state you state you had "failure over and over". Error
> messages of one kind or another?
>
> 3. You do understand that you need to partition and format this drive
> through the Disk Management utility, do you not? And that the Initialize and
> Convert Disk Wizard is the first step in the process, right?
>
> 4. The reference to the bootable floppy disk one of the responders made was
> to a Windows98/Me startup disk or similar bootable floppy disk. You can use
> such a disk to partition/format your 80 GB HD but this will result in
> establishing a FAT32 file system, not the NTFS file system which is the more
> desirable file system in a WinXP environment. There's no need to use a
> bootable floppy disk to partition/format your HD.
>
> Please give the precise detailed steps you undertook to partition and format
> your new HD. Statements such as "failure over and over" and general pleas
> for help are not useful to those of us who might help you solve your
> problem.
> Art
>
>
> Entering Setup upon turning the computer on, and then going to CMOS, I see my new Primary Slave Hard Drive, all 81gb of it. Then I exit setup and the computer continues onto Windows XP. Then onto (Start > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management), NO NEW HARD DRIVE DETECTED


"..the Initialize and Convert Disk Wizard dialog box will automatically
appear upon bootup.."

No this doesn't appear!?

access the Disk Management utility (Start > Control
Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management).

No this doesn't happen!?

When I go to the Disk Management there is only my 40gb Master HD and my
CD-ROM drive. No new HD awaiting initialising, formating, partitioning....


My Windows XP is uptodate with SP1 & SP2.

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ramson wrote:

>Thanks for your advice, however when I do go to the Disk Management
> and "..look lower right for the graphic of the drive. - it
>should show there.."
>IT ISN'T THERE??!!
>This is what I can't understand! When I first turn my computer on and go
>into the setup CMOS, I see the new Primary Slave Hard Drive there (80gb),
>but when I continue the boot and Windows XP then boots up, there is no new
>drive recognised by Disk management??!!

If it is not seen at all in Device Manager (not Disk Management) it is
likely it is not properly connected. Check jumpers and cabling. If it
shares with a CD it should be the master, and on the end connector of an
80 wire high speed cable to the 40 pin IDE sockets., And make sure the
BIOS correctly auto detects it and has it as an LBA disk


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. Alexn@mvps.D8E8L.org (remove the D8 bit)

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"ramson" <ramson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> >> >> Ramson Dying wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> I have connected a 80gb Hard Dive Primary Slave, which is
>> >> >>> additional
>> >> >>> to my Master Hard Drive 40gb. Master is Seagate and the new slave
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> Maxtor. CMOS recognises new Hard Drive as Primary Slave, but
>> Windows XP home does not.??? I have tried the installation wizard
>> to try and get Windows XP to recognise and install. But failure over
>> and over!!?? What do I do now??
>>
>> >> >> Did you partition and format the drive?
>> Won't the installation CD do the formatting if you ask it to?
>> >> >
>> >> >*TimDaniels*
>>
>> >> Normally...yes.
>> >>
>> >> But, as you can see, he's havin' problems...which may have NOTHING to
>> >> do
>> >> with partitioning and/or formatting.
>> >>
>> >> The only way to know for sure is to boot into a floppy and partition
>> >> and format it. After that, if he still has the problem, we can move
>> >> forward.
>> >> Have a nice one...
>> >>
>> >> Trent
>>
>> "ramson" <ramson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> I'm still no closer ! I've upgraded my BIOS successfully but to no
>> effect??!! The Windows XP still does not recognise the fact that an
>> additional HD has been installed yet the CMOS recognises it as from the
>> beginning of this frustrating exercise! What now?? Are there CMOS and/or
>> BIOS and/or XP settings that I need to change? I'm not sure I understand
>> the
>> floopy boot disk, what floppy boot disk?
>> Have mercy!
>>
>> Ramson dying/barely breathing!
>>

>> "Art" wrote:
>> Ramson:
>> 1. I assume that when you installed your 80 GB HD it was a virgin disk,
>> i.e., not partitioned/formatted.
>>
>> 2. Ordinarily, after a unpartitioned/unformatted HD is installed, the
>> Initialize and Convert Disk Wizard dialog box will automatically appear
>> upon
>> bootup or will when you access the Disk Management utility (Start >
>> Control
>> Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management). Is
>> this what you meant when you referred to the "installation wizard"? If
>> so,
>> what precisely occurred when you followed the steps within the I&CDW?
>> What
>> do you mean when you state you state you had "failure over and over".
>> Error
>> messages of one kind or another?
>>
>> 3. You do understand that you need to partition and format this drive
>> through the Disk Management utility, do you not? And that the Initialize
>> and
>> Convert Disk Wizard is the first step in the process, right?
>>
>> 4. The reference to the bootable floppy disk one of the responders made
>> was
>> to a Windows98/Me startup disk or similar bootable floppy disk. You can
>> use
>> such a disk to partition/format your 80 GB HD but this will result in
>> establishing a FAT32 file system, not the NTFS file system which is the
>> more
>> desirable file system in a WinXP environment. There's no need to use a
>> bootable floppy disk to partition/format your HD.
>>
>> Please give the precise detailed steps you undertook to partition and
>> format
>> your new HD. Statements such as "failure over and over" and general pleas
>> for help are not useful to those of us who might help you solve your
>> problem.
>> Art


Ramson again...
>> Entering Setup upon turning the computer on, and then going to CMOS, I
>> see my new Primary Slave Hard Drive, all 81gb of it. Then I exit setup
>> and the computer continues onto Windows XP. Then onto (Start > Control
>> Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management), NO
>> NEW HARD DRIVE DETECTED
>
>
> "..the Initialize and Convert Disk Wizard dialog box will automatically
> appear upon bootup.."
>
> No this doesn't appear!?
>
> access the Disk Management utility (Start > Control
> Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management).
>
> No this doesn't happen!?
>
> When I go to the Disk Management there is only my 40gb Master HD and my
> CD-ROM drive. No new HD awaiting initialising, formating,
> partitioning....
>
> My Windows XP is uptodate with SP1 & SP2.

Are you absolutely certain that you correctly installed your new hard drive,
i.e., it's jumpered correctly and the IDE cable is properly seated?
Art

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