Question for NTL UK cable network users

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Try asking your question here:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/ [...] ysprune=30
It's not an official NTL forum but it is read by some NTL techs and
there are lots of experienced users.
I set up an NTL connection in my niece's student house for 6 users with
a set top box modem and a Linksys wireless router very easily. Although
NTL won't provide any support for routers there is nothing inherent in
their system which will stop you sharing a connection.

Another couple of sites that may be helpful are:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jayone/index.htm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin [...] index.html

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Looked at the documentation - it's a Linksys LN112 switch.
Apologies for inadvertent confusion. However, should it work as stated
(switch internet access between pc's)? that's what Maplin's said it would
do, no problem. Huh !!
Len

"EasyFeelings" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> you keep saying "router / switch", do you have a router OR a switch? if
> you have a router it should allow multi systems online at once. sounds
> like you have a switch.
>

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Don't think so, you need a router.

Neil
"yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
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> Looked at the documentation - it's a Linksys LN112 switch.
> Apologies for inadvertent confusion. However, should it work as stated
> (switch internet access between pc's)? that's what Maplin's said it would
> do, no problem. Huh !!
> Len
>
> "EasyFeelings" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:0ntLd.75309$re1.47379@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
>> you keep saying "router / switch", do you have a router OR a switch? if
>> you have a router it should allow multi systems online at once. sounds
>> like you have a switch.
>>
>
>

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No problem with on-line shopping, do it often.
However, since I don't want/need a network, £25 for a switch was already
expensive when all that was intended was automate (avoid the need to) switch
off modem, switch cable from one PC to 'tother, switch modem back on. It's
only 'cos the cables are in awkward places and I have back trouble....

As I read it, I need a whole lot more kit for both pc's to do that (in
effect, buy kit sufficient to set up a network). As a pensioner, the cost is
prohibitive (whether from Maplins or anywhere else).

Unless of course, you know something different ....

Thanks, Len.

"John Coode" <faecius@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
> news:e0ZGAd7BFHA.1392@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Looked at the documentation - it's a Linksys LN112 switch.
>> Apologies for inadvertent confusion. However, should it work as stated
>> (switch internet access between pc's)? that's what Maplin's said it would
>> do, no problem. Huh !!
>> Len
>
> I too assumed you had a router. My understanding is that the NTL server
> 'locks' onto the MAC address ( a unique number hardwired into a computer's
> or router's network card) of the device it finds at the end of the cable.
> That would
> explain why you can't switch connections. Maplin's have given you bad
> advice and
> should have sold you a router. Your other option is to set up Internet
> Connection Sharing on the computers.
>
> By the way, if you decide to buy a router there are cheaper options than
> Maplins if
> you are comfortable to shop online. For example:
> http://www.simply.co.uk/sis/ntllinksys/homepage.aspx
>

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Internet connection sharing (ICS) is part of XP. You will need two network
cards in the PC connected to the modem (assuming you don't use USB). Then a
RJ45 network cross over cable to connect the two PCs.

Neil
"yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
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> John, Missed one important line - you say "set up computers for internet
> sharing" - how's that done? Bet it's a network thing ...
> Len
> "John Coode" <faecius@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:eb7o8x7BFHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>> news:e0ZGAd7BFHA.1392@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Looked at the documentation - it's a Linksys LN112 switch.
>>> Apologies for inadvertent confusion. However, should it work as stated
>>> (switch internet access between pc's)? that's what Maplin's said it
>>> would do, no problem. Huh !!
>>> Len
>>
>> I too assumed you had a router. My understanding is that the NTL server
>> 'locks' onto the MAC address ( a unique number hardwired into a
>> computer's
>> or router's network card) of the device it finds at the end of the cable.
>> That would
>> explain why you can't switch connections. Maplin's have given you bad
>> advice and
>> should have sold you a router. Your other option is to set up Internet
>> Connection Sharing on the computers.
>>
>> By the way, if you decide to buy a router there are cheaper options than
>> Maplins if
>> you are comfortable to shop online. For example:
>> http://www.simply.co.uk/sis/ntllinksys/homepage.aspx
>>
>
>

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Neil, John - thank you both for good advice and your perseverence..
Been to the site - seems straightforward. Additional cost seems to be
another LAN card and a crossover cable, which is minimal. (I may be able to
recover cost of mis-sold Linksys switch).

Please would you comment on new post re my existing LAN card - new post 'cos
it's only related to current thread by virtue of being a LAN card. It's an
entirely different problem.

Thanks again, Len

"neil" <neilp_67@hot_mail.com (remove_s)> wrote in message
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> Internet connection sharing (ICS) is part of XP. You will need two network
> cards in the PC connected to the modem (assuming you don't use USB). Then
> a RJ45 network cross over cable to connect the two PCs.
>
> Neil
> "yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
> news:%230oJ$C8BFHA.520@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> John, Missed one important line - you say "set up computers for internet
>> sharing" - how's that done? Bet it's a network thing ...
>> Len
>> "John Coode" <faecius@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:eb7o8x7BFHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "yabbadoo" <lsdolby@ignore.ntlwor.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e0ZGAd7BFHA.1392@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Looked at the documentation - it's a Linksys LN112 switch.
>>>> Apologies for inadvertent confusion. However, should it work as stated
>>>> (switch internet access between pc's)? that's what Maplin's said it
>>>> would do, no problem. Huh !!
>>>> Len
>>>
>>> I too assumed you had a router. My understanding is that the NTL server
>>> 'locks' onto the MAC address ( a unique number hardwired into a
>>> computer's
>>> or router's network card) of the device it finds at the end of the
>>> cable. That would
>>> explain why you can't switch connections. Maplin's have given you bad
>>> advice and
>>> should have sold you a router. Your other option is to set up Internet
>>> Connection Sharing on the computers.
>>>
>>> By the way, if you decide to buy a router there are cheaper options than
>>> Maplins if
>>> you are comfortable to shop online. For example:
>>> http://www.simply.co.uk/sis/ntllinksys/homepage.aspx
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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John, I repeat my personal thanks posted elsewhere (in another's original
thread). Dabs just delivered (total cost, Lan card cable and postage just
£9.56) - installed it, and the idiot-proof instructions you linked me to
allowed us to be up and surfing on both pc's in half an hour. SUCCESS!

Thanks again, Len.

"John Coode" <faecius@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Internet Connection Sharing is built into Windows. One computer acts as
> the host
> and shares the connection to the other computers, in fact it gives you a
> software
> router. The main disadvantage is that the 'host' computer must be turned
> on for you
> to use the connection on other computers.
>
> There are lots of sites on the web with instructions and diagrams on
> setting it up.
> Try:
> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics
> or enter 'Internet Connection Sharing' at www.google.co.uk.
> Good luck, John
>
>