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MSI 6178 without pc health status in BIOS - why :-(

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September 30, 2004 4:46:45 AM

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Hi

Recently I've bought MSI 6178 (i810) + celeron 800.

I was supprised when I saw that there is no pc health status in BIOS (no
such menu at all :/ ). My bios is v1.5 but bios supports pc health status
since 1.2 ver
(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_...
ind=1)...

Mainboard does have winbond W83627F-AW chip providing PC health status
functions.

Is it a BIOS fault or somehow limited hardware? This board might be from
fujitsu-siemens computer. Do you think that bios-crack or hardware mod can
bring pc-health to live? ModBin can see pc health status in bios.bin.

I run linux on this PC so I cant check with speedfan if I can read any temp.
voltage etc. Linux lmsensor program does not show anything except voltage.

Damn MSI and limited hardware :-(
Please help if U can. Thx
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
September 30, 2004 1:41:51 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.msi-microstar (More info?)

"Krzys-iek" <root.a.krionix.ten<-> kirjoitti viestissä
news:415b3b56$1@news.home.net.pl...
> Hi
>
> Recently I've bought MSI 6178 (i810) + celeron 800.
>
> I was supprised when I saw that there is no pc health status in BIOS (no
> such menu at all :/ ). My bios is v1.5 but bios supports pc health status
> since 1.2 ver
>
(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_...
> ind=1)...

Probably you have gotten an OEM version (manufactured for some large "brand"
PC company with reduced functionality to drop the price). They often lack
minor things like health status...

>
> Mainboard does have winbond W83627F-AW chip providing PC health status
> functions.
>
> Is it a BIOS fault or somehow limited hardware? This board might be from
> fujitsu-siemens computer. Do you think that bios-crack or hardware mod
can

This one rings a bell. I used to have a Fujitsu with 6178 and it did lack
just the PC health status stuff. I don't know whether the hardware is there
or not but if the case is the former, you could try flashing a non-Fujitsu
bios (i.e. the "real" version) in and see if it magically starts giving you
the status. Of course you are on your own when flashing in a wrong bios.

> bring pc-health to live? ModBin can see pc health status in bios.bin.
>
> I run linux on this PC so I cant check with speedfan if I can read any
temp.
> voltage etc. Linux lmsensor program does not show anything except voltage.
>
> Damn MSI and limited hardware :-(

Nope, it's "damn Fujitsu-Siemens and limited hardware". MSI will deliver
what the client wants.

> Please help if U can. Thx

Probably this was of no help.

--
gt
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
September 30, 2004 5:37:38 PM

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> Probably you have gotten an OEM version (manufactured for some large
> "brand" PC company with reduced functionality to drop the price).
> They often lack minor things like health status...
>

Probably it is true...
drop price by 0.001$ :) 

> This one rings a bell. I used to have a Fujitsu with 6178 and it did
> lack just the PC health status stuff. I don't know whether the
> hardware is there or not but if the case is the former, you could try
> flashing a non-Fujitsu bios (i.e. the "real" version) in and see if
> it magically starts giving you the status. Of course you are on your
> own when flashing in a wrong bios.

http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co.uk/rl/servicesupport/tech...

As you can see:

"Please see the MicroStar Web Site for BIOS updates."
If there was a fujitsu bios there I could have checked it with MODbin (and
see if there is pc health menu hidden there - but disabled by fujitsu or bin
lacks this menu) but if they send me to MSI web site ("real" MSI BIOS has
got PC Health and *is* enabled)...

I think bios knows somehow that that motherboard shouldn't have a pc health
stuff and the menu is hidden by BIOS

> Probably this was of no help.

Was... I also belive it is fujitsu OEM and PCB lacks ... hmmm one
resistor(?) so there is no pc health :( ( But where is this little resistor
located, can I solder one and gain pc healt... big mystery :) 

Maybe I will write bios.bin from the board using awdflash and then check it
with Modbin...
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
October 2, 2004 2:52:19 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.msi-microstar (More info?)

Hi Krzysiek,

I understand that this mobo is pre 1998 (I think)
design & product, so at that time the "PC health status"
were not that common... On my mobo this PC Health Status
is optional and I never used it. There was no need.

I have MS -6178 mobo running now with Pentium 750Mhz,
(Board: Elonex PLC - MS-6178 Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG 08/07/00),
although originally it came with a Celeron 650MHz. - but it's
running well for four years now in upgraded configuration.
It's sluggish and you feel the age, but still it is functional.
Remember to get all accelerators for this mobo
from Intel site.

As you run Linux be aware of that Linux may
read wrongly your PC hardware data. It happened
to me. Xandros or SuSe might be guilty of it.

Jdr


"Krzys-iek" <root.a.krionix.ten<-> wrote in message
news:415b3b56$1@news.home.net.pl...
> Hi
>
> Recently I've bought MSI 6178 (i810) + celeron 800.
>
> I was supprised when I saw that there is no pc health status in BIOS (no
> such menu at all :/ ). My bios is v1.5 but bios supports pc health status
> since 1.2 ver
> (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_...
> ind=1)...
>
> Mainboard does have winbond W83627F-AW chip providing PC health status
> functions.
>
> Is it a BIOS fault or somehow limited hardware? This board might be from
> fujitsu-siemens computer. Do you think that bios-crack or hardware mod
> can
> bring pc-health to live? ModBin can see pc health status in bios.bin.
>
> I run linux on this PC so I cant check with speedfan if I can read any
> temp.
> voltage etc. Linux lmsensor program does not show anything except voltage.
>
> Damn MSI and limited hardware :-(
> Please help if U can. Thx
>
!