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So, Sean, here's my thoughts on your configuration.
GOOD
Memory: Great.No problem with PC3200.
CPU: Your MOBO is designed to run this chip.
DD: Western Digital....don't see a problem here.
Powered USB: Never a problem since they're not drawing power from the PS.
Unpowered USB: Cannon scanner must be powered. You're just plugging the USB
cable into the Shuttle...correct?
Unpowered USB: Camera memory into a memory reader such as Iomega is not much
of a draw on the power supply.
NOT SO GOOD
Graphics card: If I'm correct, the 3dfx voodoo 4000 requires an external
power connector for it to run properly. This particular card places a
certain amount of strain on your CPU which, in turn, draws power to the CPU
and the voodoo. The voodoo is NOT on the Shuttle support list while the ATI
Radeon 8500 is. I believe this card is part of the problem if not THE
problem. As you know, we're only dealing with 200 watts. Newer video cards
use .18 and .13 micron technology which reduces power consumption and heat.
Zip Drive: Although this is not drawing mush power when not in use, it's
drawing power none-the-less.
WHAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER
Here's what I've done to keep strain off my power supply...
Powered USB Hub: I use IOGEAR powered USB 2.0 hub (4 port) to connect
printers, scanners, memory sticks, etc. to the shuttle. This way the Shuttle
doesn't have to provide power to multilple devices attached to the hub.
External ATA Drive Enclosure: I would use one of these to host your Zip
Drive. It has two advantages; 1) the drive case has it's own power supply to
drive the Zip (and an internal fan for cooling), and it can be moved from
one USB capable machine to another and, 2) it plugs into the powered USB Hub
mentioned above.
The whole idea with a limited power supply is to divide and conquer......
Here is some reference materiel you may find useful.
Shuttle VGA compatibility list: This is the list of cards supported by
Shuttle.
http://www.shuttle.com/hq/support/faq/supportlist2.asp?model=SN41G2&vr=SN41G2%20(FN41V1.X,V2.X)&page=3
USB 2.0 Extrenal ATA drive enclosure (they come is 3 1/2" and 2 1/2" as
well).
http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030116/
IPGEAR 4 port USB Hub with power adapter.
http://iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&product_id=401&sec=Description
Happy computing
and hope this helps in some way
"Sean G." <ethanol at mathlab dot sunysb dot eee dee you> wrote in message
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> Mark,
>
> I had the same configuration for both power supply failures. The power
> supply shuttle sent back after service for the first failure was
noticeably
> louder than the one that came with the system. So I transferred all the
> accessories (drives, memory, etc.) from the sk41g I picked up in February
> that died almost immediately into the sk41g I received in December.
>
> So this was the configuration for both power supply deaths.
>
> > You never mentioned your SFF configuration. Mind if I ask?
> >
> > Video card
> 3dfx Voodoo 4000, AGP
> > CPU
> XP 2600+
> > memory (type and amount)
> 512 MB single stick Kingston PC3200. (I know this is faster than the
> bus, but that's what is on shuttle's support list.)
> > Disk drives
> Western Digital 80 Gig IDE. 800BB I think.
> Internal Iomega Zip 100
> > Optical drives (DVD, CD, etc)
> Internal Plextor CD-RW...an old one 24x12x24, maybe
> > Unpowered USB devices
> Occassional import from Canon scanner or digital camera
> > Powered USB devices
> External Iomega CD-RW USB 2 52x32x52
> HP DeskJet USB
> > What power supply do you have? (200 or 250watt?)
> In both cases, it was the 200W power supply stock with the new SK41G
>
> Also has a powered serial connection to a palm cradle. Power connects to
> the serial plug to recharge the palm.
>
> >
> > You may have a configuration that draws too much power from the rather
> small
> > PS. Video cards can be a drain on a power supply if it's not on the
> Shuttle
> > compatibility list.
> >
> > Are you overclocking?
> No.
> >
> > Also, what do you use your Shuttle for? Is it a place where airflow is
> > restricted?
> >
>
> Boring home computer stuff...email, web browsing, Quicken. The occasional
> photoshoping with the scanner and digital camera. Absolutely no
> correspondence between the power supply failure and USB use.
>
> Airflow should be good. It's in the same spot that had a 700 MHZ Duron
> mid-tower for years. Yes, the 2600+ run a lot hotter than the 700, but it
> also has a lot more air room behind and above. It is often left on for a
> couple days at a time.
>
> The SK41G is February was a gift. I got it, put in the CPU, memory, a
hard
> drive, and powered it up just to make sure it worked, then wrapped it up
and
> put it away. About a week later it was opened and set up. I transferred
> the hard drive with Windows 2000 from the old Duron system. I was in the
> process of installing the drivers for the mobo and accessories. I was
> actually on my last driver--for the intellipoint mouse--when I did a
reboot
> that never came back.
>
> It was about 8 weeks after the return of the system from Shuttle that the
> second power supply died. Like I said, I swapped out the systems, so the
> accessories were the same for the second incident, but the mobo was
> different.
>
> The only thing above that might be out of the ordinary is the old Voodoo
> card. But usually power consumption by video goes up over time. My other
> sk41g has an ATI Radeon AIW 8500. If anything I have should push the
power
> supply, that would be it. BTW, I put the new 250W silent X in with the
> 8500, and the system with the Voodoo card has the 200W supply shuttle sent
> back.
>
> So, anything above stand out as a potential issue? The SFF is great, but
if
> I end up shelling out 70 bucks for a new power supply or being without a
> computer for a couple weeks while its back to Shuttle for warranty service
> every couple months, I'll just pull the old towers out of the closet.
>
>
> Thanks for the tips.
>
>
>
> Sean G.
>
>
>
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