Soyo 82430HX/P54C - no boot

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I'm trying to get an old computer running, containing a Soyo 82430HX/P54C
mainboard (according to the 1996 manual).
The floppy drive and hard disk are recognized, but it won't boot from a
Windows 98 boot floppy, nor from the Windows 98SE CD-ROM drive (the drive
starts spinning, but no boot). Tried different boot sequences.

Also I get message 'No PT' on the screen. What does this indicate?
Of course, in the first place I started searching on the indicated Soyo site
www.soyo.com.tw but I couldn't find a single reference to this main board...


Award modular BIOS V4.51 PG ©1984-96
REV FB
Award P&P BIOS extention V 1.0A


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"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message news:<c769ge$8h47$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> I'm trying to get an old computer running, containing a Soyo 82430HX/P54C
> mainboard (according to the 1996 manual).
> The floppy drive and hard disk are recognized, but it won't boot from a
> Windows 98 boot floppy, nor from the Windows 98SE CD-ROM drive (the drive
> starts spinning, but no boot). Tried different boot sequences.
>
> Also I get message 'No PT' on the screen. What does this indicate?
> Of course, in the first place I started searching on the indicated Soyo site
> www.soyo.com.tw but I couldn't find a single reference to this main board...
>
>
> Award modular BIOS V4.51 PG ©1984-96
> REV FB
> Award P&P BIOS extention V 1.0A
>
>
> (invalid e-mailadress)

What company built the computer? What OS is on the hard drive?
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"dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
news:4767d5a9.0405050410.5c539669@posting.google.com...
> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
news:<c769ge$8h47$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > I'm trying to get an old computer running, containing a Soyo
82430HX/P54C
> > mainboard (according to the 1996 manual).
> > The floppy drive and hard disk are recognized, but it won't boot from a
> > Windows 98 boot floppy, nor from the Windows 98SE CD-ROM drive (the
drive
> > starts spinning, but no boot). Tried different boot sequences.
> >
> > Also I get message 'No PT' on the screen. What does this indicate?
> > Of course, in the first place I started searching on the indicated Soyo
site
> > www.soyo.com.tw but I couldn't find a single reference to this main
board...
> >
> >
> > Award modular BIOS V4.51 PG ©1984-96
> > REV FB
> > Award P&P BIOS extention V 1.0A
> >
> >
> > (invalid e-mailadress)
>
> What company built the computer?

Not sure... I'll make note when I'm at my father's again.

>What OS is on the hard drive?

None anymore. I put in a formatted WB Caviar 21600 (1624.6) hard drive which
was autodetected in BIOS correctly. I was going to install Windows 98SE or
so I thought, but it won't even boot from Win98SE floppy, nor from Win98SE
CDROM, although these options are in the BIOS.
Soyo doesn't seem to keep any achives with info or firmware for their older
products... :-((

BTW after a laborious search on internet I found several other problem
messages about this Soyo error, but none of them were answered...



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"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message news:<c7asmc$1r4ro$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> "dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:4767d5a9.0405050410.5c539669@posting.google.com...
> > "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:<c769ge$8h47$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > > I'm trying to get an old computer running, containing a Soyo
> 82430HX/P54C
> > > mainboard (according to the 1996 manual).
> > > The floppy drive and hard disk are recognized, but it won't boot from a
> > > Windows 98 boot floppy, nor from the Windows 98SE CD-ROM drive (the
> drive
> > > starts spinning, but no boot). Tried different boot sequences.
> > >
> > > Also I get message 'No PT' on the screen. What does this indicate?
> > > Of course, in the first place I started searching on the indicated Soyo
> site
> > > www.soyo.com.tw but I couldn't find a single reference to this main
> board...
> > >
> > >
> > > Award modular BIOS V4.51 PG ©1984-96
> > > REV FB
> > > Award P&P BIOS extention V 1.0A
> > >
> > >
> > > (invalid e-mailadress)
> >
> > What company built the computer?
>
> Not sure... I'll make note when I'm at my father's again.
>
> >What OS is on the hard drive?
>
> None anymore. I put in a formatted WB Caviar 21600 (1624.6) hard drive which
> was autodetected in BIOS correctly. I was going to install Windows 98SE or
> so I thought, but it won't even boot from Win98SE floppy, nor from Win98SE
> CDROM, although these options are in the BIOS.
> Soyo doesn't seem to keep any achives with info or firmware for their older
> products... :-((
>
> BTW after a laborious search on internet I found several other problem
> messages about this Soyo error, but none of them were answered...

I do not know how to read the model of the drive, what size is it?
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"dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
news:4767d5a9.0405060418.2404f39a@posting.google.com...
> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
news:<c7asmc$1r4ro$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > "dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:4767d5a9.0405050410.5c539669@posting.google.com...
> > > "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> > news:<c769ge$8h47$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > I'm trying to get an old computer running, containing a Soyo
> > 82430HX/P54C
> > > > mainboard (according to the 1996 manual).
> > > > The floppy drive and hard disk are recognized, but it won't boot
from a
> > > > Windows 98 boot floppy, nor from the Windows 98SE CD-ROM drive (the
> > drive
> > > > starts spinning, but no boot). Tried different boot sequences.
> > > >
> > > > Also I get message 'No PT' on the screen. What does this indicate?
> > > > Of course, in the first place I started searching on the indicated
Soyo
> > site
> > > > www.soyo.com.tw but I couldn't find a single reference to this main
> > board...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Award modular BIOS V4.51 PG ©1984-96
> > > > REV FB
> > > > Award P&P BIOS extention V 1.0A
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (invalid e-mailadress)
> > >
> > > What company built the computer?
> >
> > Not sure... I'll make note when I'm at my father's again.
> >
> > >What OS is on the hard drive?
> >
> > None anymore. I put in a formatted WB Caviar 21600 (1624.6) hard drive
which
> > was autodetected in BIOS correctly. I was going to install Windows 98SE
or
> > so I thought, but it won't even boot from Win98SE floppy, nor from
Win98SE
> > CDROM, although these options are in the BIOS.
> > Soyo doesn't seem to keep any achives with info or firmware for their
older
> > products... :-((
> >
> > BTW after a laborious search on internet I found several other problem
> > messages about this Soyo error, but none of them were answered...
>
> I do not know how to read the model of the drive, what size is it?


1624.6 Mb.


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"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message news:<2fvf35F2sqv7U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> "dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:4767d5a9.0405060418.2404f39a@posting.google.com...
> > "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:<c7asmc$1r4ro$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > > "dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> > > news:4767d5a9.0405050410.5c539669@posting.google.com...
> > > > "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:<c769ge$8h47$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > > I'm trying to get an old computer running, containing a Soyo
> 82430HX/P54C
> > > > > mainboard (according to the 1996 manual).
> > > > > The floppy drive and hard disk are recognized, but it won't boot
> from a
> > > > > Windows 98 boot floppy, nor from the Windows 98SE CD-ROM drive (the
> drive
> > > > > starts spinning, but no boot). Tried different boot sequences.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I get message 'No PT' on the screen. What does this indicate?
> > > > > Of course, in the first place I started searching on the indicated
> Soyo
> site
> > > > > www.soyo.com.tw but I couldn't find a single reference to this main
> board...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Award modular BIOS V4.51 PG ©1984-96
> > > > > REV FB
> > > > > Award P&P BIOS extention V 1.0A
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > (invalid e-mailadress)
> > > >
> > > > What company built the computer?
> > >
> > > Not sure... I'll make note when I'm at my father's again.
> > >
> > > >What OS is on the hard drive?
> > >
> > > None anymore. I put in a formatted WB Caviar 21600 (1624.6) hard drive
> which
> > > was autodetected in BIOS correctly. I was going to install Windows 98SE
> or
> > > so I thought, but it won't even boot from Win98SE floppy, nor from
> Win98SE
> > > CDROM, although these options are in the BIOS.
> > > Soyo doesn't seem to keep any achives with info or firmware for their
> older
> > > products... :-((
> > >
> > > BTW after a laborious search on internet I found several other problem
> > > messages about this Soyo error, but none of them were answered...
> >
> > I do not know how to read the model of the drive, what size is it?
>
>
> 1624.6 Mb.

Will it boot to a floppy without the drive installed?
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"dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
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> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
news:<2fvf35F2sqv7U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> > "dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:4767d5a9.0405060418.2404f39a@posting.google.com...
> > > "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> > news:<c7asmc$1r4ro$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > "dave" <dvnj@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> > > > news:4767d5a9.0405050410.5c539669@posting.google.com...
> > > > > "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> > news:<c769ge$8h47$1@ID-54604.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > > > > > I'm trying to get an old computer running, containing a Soyo
> > 82430HX/P54C
> > > > > > mainboard (according to the 1996 manual).
> > > > > > The floppy drive and hard disk are recognized, but it won't boot
> > from a
> > > > > > Windows 98 boot floppy, nor from the Windows 98SE CD-ROM drive
(the
> > drive
> > > > > > starts spinning, but no boot). Tried different boot sequences.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also I get message 'No PT' on the screen. What does this
indicate?
> > > > > > Of course, in the first place I started searching on the
indicated
> > Soyo
> > site
> > > > > > www.soyo.com.tw but I couldn't find a single reference to this
main
> > board...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Award modular BIOS V4.51 PG ©1984-96
> > > > > > REV FB
> > > > > > Award P&P BIOS extention V 1.0A
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (invalid e-mailadress)
> > > > >
> > > > > What company built the computer?
> > > >
> > > > Not sure... I'll make note when I'm at my father's again.
> > > >
> > > > >What OS is on the hard drive?
> > > >
> > > > None anymore. I put in a formatted WB Caviar 21600 (1624.6) hard
drive
> > which
> > > > was autodetected in BIOS correctly. I was going to install Windows
98SE
> > or
> > > > so I thought, but it won't even boot from Win98SE floppy, nor from
> > Win98SE
> > > > CDROM, although these options are in the BIOS.
> > > > Soyo doesn't seem to keep any achives with info or firmware for
their
> > older
> > > > products... :-((
> > > >
> > > > BTW after a laborious search on internet I found several other
problem
> > > > messages about this Soyo error, but none of them were answered...
> > >
> > > I do not know how to read the model of the drive, what size is it?
> >
> >
> > 1624.6 Mb.
>
> Will it boot to a floppy without the drive installed?


As I stated in my initial message it won't boot NOR from floppy, NOR from
either CD-ROM drive.
It displays a message 'CDROM boot failed...'


After switching on system and floppy boot option I get:

Verifying DMI pool data...
EZ-BIOS: Initializing...
EZ-BIOS: Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot from floppy...
EZ-BIOS: Continuing start up...
(translated) Enter name of the MS-DOS-prompt (e.g. C:\windows\command.com)

What the heck is expected? I can type Enter, but this last line is repeated
each time.



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Hello.
You have EZ-BIOS installed. EZ-BIOS is a software BIOS overlay that allows you to use larger hard-drives on systems that don't support it.
To boot from floppy with EZ-BIOS installed, set your boot sequence to boot from floppy first. Insert your boot floppy. When you reach the point during boot where the EZ message is "Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot from floppy", do so. Follow the instructions you'll get next. I forget exactly how it goes because it's been a very long time since I was running a system that needed EZ-BIOS on it.<g> If you don't hold down the CTRL key at the proper time, you won't boot from the floppy.
The "No PT" error means there was no Partition Table detected. The PT on your hard-drive is probably corrupt, or a virus got to it. You need to FDISK the drive and reformat it.
Or
Since you have EZ-BIOS installed already, you might want to go to the Western Digital website and download their Data Lifeguard tools. You'll need the DOS version. of it. You can use it to remove EZ-BIOS if you don't really need it, plus redo the hard-drive. I don't think you need EZ-BIOS with this system, and things will be better if you can get by without it.

Typing Enter wasn't what was needed, it was actually asking what to boot with. With no OS installed, and without holding the CTRL key down while booting, it couldn't find an OS to boot with. And even if you did have an OS on the hard-drive, if the Partition Table is messed up then it won't be finding it then either, since the drive won't be accessible.

HTH,
TB

"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message news:2g225tF3jq0nU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>
> As I stated in my initial message it won't boot NOR from floppy, NOR from
> either CD-ROM drive.
> It displays a message 'CDROM boot failed...'
>
>
> After switching on system and floppy boot option I get:
>
> Verifying DMI pool data...
> EZ-BIOS: Initializing...
> EZ-BIOS: Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot from floppy...
> EZ-BIOS: Continuing start up...
> (translated) Enter name of the MS-DOS-prompt (e.g. C:\windows\command.com)
>
> What the heck is expected? I can type Enter, but this last line is repeated
> each time.
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>
>
 
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Hi ThunderBob,


Now this sounds like some help, thanks very much!
The involved PC is my fathers (who has no internet access). I'll print your
message and take it with me when I go there monday.

Since I notice MSOE doesn't generete quotes for your text, I won't type in
between the lines.
Personally I have no experience with Soyo nor with EZ-BIOS, but I began
suspecting some hardware specific trick like this. I was surprised though
that I couldn't find any relevant information on the Soyo web site.

There are some other considerations: where is this EZ-BIOS installed? The
hard drive is empty now since I started off removing all partitions (I
remember being surprised that FDISK prompted "NON DOS partition"!) and made
a new partition the normal MS DOS way. Then I formatted the drive and this
was completed successfully. From then on we couldn't boot anymore.

I had concluded to hold CTRL for booting from floppy so I have tried that.
This results in a screen with options for A and C. So I have tried pressing
the key for booting from the inserted Windows 98SE floppy, but I'm afraid
this didn't work... I'm beginning to understand this EZ-BIOS makes thing
real EZ... :)

I'll check out the WD web site for the tools you mention.
We were also going to install an aditional bigger hard drive (which I
disconnected temporarily):
Maxtor Model 32049H2 size: 20.4 Gb AT. Is this going to be a problem? I've
been told by previous owner it has worked OK in this system...


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"ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
news:409c7409$1_2@127.0.0.1...
Hello.
You have EZ-BIOS installed. EZ-BIOS is a software BIOS overlay that allows
you to use larger hard-drives on systems that don't support it.
To boot from floppy with EZ-BIOS installed, set your boot sequence to boot
from floppy first. Insert your boot floppy. When you reach the point during
boot where the EZ message is "Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot
from floppy", do so. Follow the instructions you'll get next. I forget
exactly how it goes because it's been a very long time since I was running a
system that needed EZ-BIOS on it.<g> If you don't hold down the CTRL key at
the proper time, you won't boot from the floppy.
The "No PT" error means there was no Partition Table detected. The PT on
your hard-drive is probably corrupt, or a virus got to it. You need to FDISK
the drive and reformat it.
Or
Since you have EZ-BIOS installed already, you might want to go to the
Western Digital website and download their Data Lifeguard tools. You'll need
the DOS version. of it. You can use it to remove EZ-BIOS if you don't really
need it, plus redo the hard-drive. I don't think you need EZ-BIOS with this
system, and things will be better if you can get by without it.

Typing Enter wasn't what was needed, it was actually asking what to boot
with. With no OS installed, and without holding the CTRL key down while
booting, it couldn't find an OS to boot with. And even if you did have an OS
on the hard-drive, if the Partition Table is messed up then it won't be
finding it then either, since the drive won't be accessible.

HTH,
TB

"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
news:2g225tF3jq0nU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>
> As I stated in my initial message it won't boot NOR from floppy, NOR from
> either CD-ROM drive.
> It displays a message 'CDROM boot failed...'
>
>
> After switching on system and floppy boot option I get:
>
> Verifying DMI pool data...
> EZ-BIOS: Initializing...
> EZ-BIOS: Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot from floppy...
> EZ-BIOS: Continuing start up...
> (translated) Enter name of the MS-DOS-prompt (e.g. C:\windows\command.com)
>
> What the heck is expected? I can type Enter, but this last line is
repeated
> each time.
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>
>
 
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You're welcome, Linea.
EZ-BIOS installs into the boot sector of your hard-drive.
Which is why I suggested using the WD Data Lifeguard tools to remove it.
LOL.. EZ-BIOS was supposed to be easy. I had to use it back when I was running a 4.3gig drive on a 486 with Win95.
It worked ok, but trying to boot from a floppy was usually a pain.
Once I didn't need it after upgrades, I removed EZ-BIOS and reformatted the drive.
I did that because it was a Maxtor drive and Maxtor recommended formatting after removing EZ-BIOS to avoid a chance of severe data corruption.
I got hit with that chance once, and ended up redoing the drive.<g>

Information on EZ-BIOS would not be at the Soyo website because it's not their software.
You need to go to the hard-drive manufacturer for support on that.
Both Maxtor and Western Digital included EZ-BIOS in their hard-drive utilities.

Only other consideration is that if it turns out you need EZ-BIOS, is best to use the Data Lifeguard tools to format it.
As long as your BIOS recognizes the full amount of the 20gig drive, you should be ok.
Otherwise you'll need EZ-BIOS on it too if there's no BIOS update for large drives for that motherboard, or an add-on IDE controller card.
With the other drive being a Maxtor, you can also use MaxBlast to format. Maxblast can also remove or install EZ-BIOS.

Good luck, hope you get it straightened out.
TB

"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message news:2g45n8F49mdqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi ThunderBob,
>
>
> Now this sounds like some help, thanks very much!
> The involved PC is my fathers (who has no internet access). I'll print your
> message and take it with me when I go there monday.
>
> Since I notice MSOE doesn't generete quotes for your text, I won't type in
> between the lines.
> Personally I have no experience with Soyo nor with EZ-BIOS, but I began
> suspecting some hardware specific trick like this. I was surprised though
> that I couldn't find any relevant information on the Soyo web site.
>
> There are some other considerations: where is this EZ-BIOS installed? The
> hard drive is empty now since I started off removing all partitions (I
> remember being surprised that FDISK prompted "NON DOS partition"!) and made
> a new partition the normal MS DOS way. Then I formatted the drive and this
> was completed successfully. From then on we couldn't boot anymore.
>
> I had concluded to hold CTRL for booting from floppy so I have tried that.
> This results in a screen with options for A and C. So I have tried pressing
> the key for booting from the inserted Windows 98SE floppy, but I'm afraid
> this didn't work... I'm beginning to understand this EZ-BIOS makes thing
> real EZ... :)
>
> I'll check out the WD web site for the tools you mention.
> We were also going to install an aditional bigger hard drive (which I
> disconnected temporarily):
> Maxtor Model 32049H2 size: 20.4 Gb AT. Is this going to be a problem? I've
> been told by previous owner it has worked OK in this system...
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:409c7409$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> Hello.
> You have EZ-BIOS installed. EZ-BIOS is a software BIOS overlay that allows
> you to use larger hard-drives on systems that don't support it.
> To boot from floppy with EZ-BIOS installed, set your boot sequence to boot
> from floppy first. Insert your boot floppy. When you reach the point during
> boot where the EZ message is "Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot
> from floppy", do so. Follow the instructions you'll get next. I forget
> exactly how it goes because it's been a very long time since I was running a
> system that needed EZ-BIOS on it.<g> If you don't hold down the CTRL key at
> the proper time, you won't boot from the floppy.
> The "No PT" error means there was no Partition Table detected. The PT on
> your hard-drive is probably corrupt, or a virus got to it. You need to FDISK
> the drive and reformat it.
> Or
> Since you have EZ-BIOS installed already, you might want to go to the
> Western Digital website and download their Data Lifeguard tools. You'll need
> the DOS version. of it. You can use it to remove EZ-BIOS if you don't really
> need it, plus redo the hard-drive. I don't think you need EZ-BIOS with this
> system, and things will be better if you can get by without it.
>
> Typing Enter wasn't what was needed, it was actually asking what to boot
> with. With no OS installed, and without holding the CTRL key down while
> booting, it couldn't find an OS to boot with. And even if you did have an OS
> on the hard-drive, if the Partition Table is messed up then it won't be
> finding it then either, since the drive won't be accessible.
>
> HTH,
> TB
>
> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:2g225tF3jq0nU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> > As I stated in my initial message it won't boot NOR from floppy, NOR from
> > either CD-ROM drive.
> > It displays a message 'CDROM boot failed...'
> >
> >
> > After switching on system and floppy boot option I get:
> >
> > Verifying DMI pool data...
> > EZ-BIOS: Initializing...
> > EZ-BIOS: Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot from floppy...
> > EZ-BIOS: Continuing start up...
> > (translated) Enter name of the MS-DOS-prompt (e.g. C:\windows\command.com)
> >
> > What the heck is expected? I can type Enter, but this last line is
> repeated
> > each time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> >
> > |\ /|
> > | \/ |@rk
> > \../
> > \/os
> >
> >
>
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I see a reply to this, Linea, but for some reason it's deleted from the server and I can't read it.
TB

"ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> wrote in message news:409d861f_2@127.0.0.1...
You're welcome, Linea.
Good luck, hope you get it straightened out.
TB

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> Hi ThunderBob,
>
>
> Now this sounds like some help, thanks very much!
>


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"ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> wrote in message news:409d861f_2@127.0.0.1...
You're welcome, Linea.
EZ-BIOS installs into the boot sector of your hard-drive.
Good luck, hope you get it straightened out.
TB

"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message news:2g45n8F49mdqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi ThunderBob,
>
> I'll check out the WD web site for the tools you mention.
> We were also going to install an aditional bigger hard drive (which I
> disconnected temporarily):
> Maxtor Model 32049H2 size: 20.4 Gb AT. Is this going to be a problem? I've
> been told by previous owner it has worked OK in this system...
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:409c7409$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> Hello.
> Or
> Since you have EZ-BIOS installed already, you might want to go to the
> Western Digital website and download their Data Lifeguard tools. You'll need
> the DOS version. of it. You can use it to remove EZ-BIOS if you don't really
> need it, plus redo the hard-drive. I don't think you need EZ-BIOS with this
> system, and things will be better if you can get by without it.
>
> Typing Enter wasn't what was needed, it was actually asking what to boot
> with. With no OS installed, and without holding the CTRL key down while
> booting, it couldn't find an OS to boot with. And even if you did have an OS
> on the hard-drive, if the Partition Table is messed up then it won't be
> finding it then either, since the drive won't be accessible.
>
> HTH,
> TB
>
> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:2g225tF3jq0nU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> > As I stated in my initial message it won't boot NOR from floppy, NOR from
> > either CD-ROM drive.
> > It displays a message 'CDROM boot failed...'
> >
> >
> > After switching on system and floppy boot option I get:
> >
> > Verifying DMI pool data...
> > EZ-BIOS: Initializing...
> > EZ-BIOS: Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot from floppy...
> > EZ-BIOS: Continuing start up...
> > (translated) Enter name of the MS-DOS-prompt (e.g. C:\windows\command.com)
> >
> > What the heck is expected? I can type Enter, but this last line is
> repeated
> > each time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> >
> > |\ /|
> > | \/ |@rk
> > \../
> > \/os
> >
> >
>
>


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---cut---

Otherwise you'll need EZ-BIOS on it too if there's no BIOS update for large
drives for that motherboard,

That's why I searched at Soyo, but they won't know anything about this type
of motherboard anymore.


>or an add-on IDE controller card.
>With the other drive being a Maxtor, you can also use MaxBlast to format.
Maxblast can also remove or install >EZ-BIOS.


I have MaxBlast lying around here somewhere, but never worked with it yet.


>Good luck, hope you get it straightened out.

Thanks, I'll let you know.


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Sorry, you had a reply to this that's not showing up for me and I can't read it. (Cheap newsserver my ISP is using..)
TB

"ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> wrote in message news:409d861f_2@127.0.0.1...
You're welcome, Linea.
EZ-BIOS installs into the boot sector of your hard-drive.
Which is why I suggested using the WD Data Lifeguard tools to remove it.
LOL.. EZ-BIOS was supposed to be easy. I had to use it back when I was running a 4.3gig drive on a 486 with Win95.
It worked ok, but trying to boot from a floppy was usually a pain.
Once I didn't need it after upgrades, I removed EZ-BIOS and reformatted the drive.
I did that because it was a Maxtor drive and Maxtor recommended formatting after removing EZ-BIOS to avoid a chance of severe data corruption.
I got hit with that chance once, and ended up redoing the drive.<g>

Information on EZ-BIOS would not be at the Soyo website because it's not their software.
You need to go to the hard-drive manufacturer for support on that.
Both Maxtor and Western Digital included EZ-BIOS in their hard-drive utilities.

Only other consideration is that if it turns out you need EZ-BIOS, is best to use the Data Lifeguard tools to format it.
As long as your BIOS recognizes the full amount of the 20gig drive, you should be ok.
Otherwise you'll need EZ-BIOS on it too if there's no BIOS update for large drives for that motherboard, or an add-on IDE controller card.
With the other drive being a Maxtor, you can also use MaxBlast to format. Maxblast can also remove or install EZ-BIOS.

Good luck, hope you get it straightened out.
TB

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> Hi ThunderBob,
>
>
> Now this sounds like some help, thanks very much!
> The involved PC is my fathers (who has no internet access). I'll print your
> message and take it with me when I go there monday.
>
> Since I notice MSOE doesn't generete quotes for your text, I won't type in
> between the lines.
> Personally I have no experience with Soyo nor with EZ-BIOS, but I began
> suspecting some hardware specific trick like this. I was surprised though
> that I couldn't find any relevant information on the Soyo web site.
>
> There are some other considerations: where is this EZ-BIOS installed? The
> hard drive is empty now since I started off removing all partitions (I
> remember being surprised that FDISK prompted "NON DOS partition"!) and made
> a new partition the normal MS DOS way. Then I formatted the drive and this
> was completed successfully. From then on we couldn't boot anymore.
>
> I had concluded to hold CTRL for booting from floppy so I have tried that.
> This results in a screen with options for A and C. So I have tried pressing
> the key for booting from the inserted Windows 98SE floppy, but I'm afraid
> this didn't work... I'm beginning to understand this EZ-BIOS makes thing
> real EZ... :)
>
> I'll check out the WD web site for the tools you mention.
> We were also going to install an aditional bigger hard drive (which I
> disconnected temporarily):
> Maxtor Model 32049H2 size: 20.4 Gb AT. Is this going to be a problem? I've
> been told by previous owner it has worked OK in this system...
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:409c7409$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> Hello.
> You have EZ-BIOS installed. EZ-BIOS is a software BIOS overlay that allows
> you to use larger hard-drives on systems that don't support it.
> To boot from floppy with EZ-BIOS installed, set your boot sequence to boot
> from floppy first. Insert your boot floppy. When you reach the point during
> boot where the EZ message is "Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot
> from floppy", do so. Follow the instructions you'll get next. I forget
> exactly how it goes because it's been a very long time since I was running a
> system that needed EZ-BIOS on it.<g> If you don't hold down the CTRL key at
> the proper time, you won't boot from the floppy.
> The "No PT" error means there was no Partition Table detected. The PT on
> your hard-drive is probably corrupt, or a virus got to it. You need to FDISK
> the drive and reformat it.
> Or
> Since you have EZ-BIOS installed already, you might want to go to the
> Western Digital website and download their Data Lifeguard tools. You'll need
> the DOS version. of it. You can use it to remove EZ-BIOS if you don't really
> need it, plus redo the hard-drive. I don't think you need EZ-BIOS with this
> system, and things will be better if you can get by without it.
>
> Typing Enter wasn't what was needed, it was actually asking what to boot
> with. With no OS installed, and without holding the CTRL key down while
> booting, it couldn't find an OS to boot with. And even if you did have an OS
> on the hard-drive, if the Partition Table is messed up then it won't be
> finding it then either, since the drive won't be accessible.
>
> HTH,
> TB
>
> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:2g225tF3jq0nU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> > As I stated in my initial message it won't boot NOR from floppy, NOR from
> > either CD-ROM drive.
> > It displays a message 'CDROM boot failed...'
> >
> >
> > After switching on system and floppy boot option I get:
> >
> > Verifying DMI pool data...
> > EZ-BIOS: Initializing...
> > EZ-BIOS: Hold CTRL down for status screen or to boot from floppy...
> > EZ-BIOS: Continuing start up...
> > (translated) Enter name of the MS-DOS-prompt (e.g. C:\windows\command.com)
> >
> > What the heck is expected? I can type Enter, but this last line is
> repeated
> > each time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> >
> > |\ /|
> > | \/ |@rk
> > \../
> > \/os
> >
> >
>
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Hi ThunderBob,


This was my last reply:

"ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
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---cut---

>Otherwise you'll need EZ-BIOS on it too if there's no BIOS update for large
>drives for that motherboard,

That's why I had searched at Soyo, but they won't know anything about this
type
of motherboard anymore.


>or an add-on IDE controller card.
>With the other drive being a Maxtor, you can also use MaxBlast to format.
>Maxblast can also remove or install >EZ-BIOS.


I have MaxBlast lying around here somewhere, but never worked with it yet.


>Good luck, hope you get it straightened out.

Thanks, I'll let you know.


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Thank you.

Here's a couple of links for you:

http://www.soyousa.com/dl/bios/
http://www.soyousa.com/dl/manuals/

Those are http links to their FTP downloads section.
You'll be looking in the 586 categories.
You'll need the model number of your board.
It's something like a 5TF or 5TX, according to what I've seen, but is best
to make sure.
If you have the original manual, that would help verify which it is.

LOL.. I see motherboard-forum.com is archiving this, and all my attempts to
get my previous reply to post all show up there..LOL..

TB

"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
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> Hi ThunderBob,
>
>
> This was my last reply:
>
> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:409d861f_2@127.0.0.1...
>
> ---cut---
>
> >Otherwise you'll need EZ-BIOS on it too if there's no BIOS update for
large
> >drives for that motherboard,
>
> That's why I had searched at Soyo, but they won't know anything about this
> type
> of motherboard anymore.
>
>
> >or an add-on IDE controller card.
> >With the other drive being a Maxtor, you can also use MaxBlast to format.
> >Maxblast can also remove or install >EZ-BIOS.
>
>
> I have MaxBlast lying around here somewhere, but never worked with it yet.
>
>
> >Good luck, hope you get it straightened out.
>
> Thanks, I'll let you know.
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>
> E-mail mccm.vos@hccnet.nl
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"ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
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> Thank you.
>
> Here's a couple of links for you:
>
> http://www.soyousa.com/dl/bios/
> http://www.soyousa.com/dl/manuals/
>
> Those are http links to their FTP downloads section.
> You'll be looking in the 586 categories.
> You'll need the model number of your board.
> It's something like a 5TF or 5TX, according to what I've seen, but is best
> to make sure.
> If you have the original manual, that would help verify which it is.


Thanks for the links.

I have the manual here, but not the board...
The manual says:
Edition August 1996
Version 2.0
5T F0/F2/F5 Serial

Is this information (exclusive) enough?


>
> LOL.. I see motherboard-forum.com is archiving this, and all my attempts
to
> get my previous reply to post all show up there..LOL..


So they're interested too. :)



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You're welcome. Looks like it's enough to show it's a model 5TF.
Soyo site for BIOS'es doesn't show anything newer than 1997 for 5TF series,
and it looks like the 5TF1114.bin dated NOV 19 1997 would be the newest.
Without being exactly for sure (an e-mail to Soyo might help verify), I
don't think I'd try flashing unless there's a problem with using that 20gig
drive.

LOL.. I think that website is doing it automatically. Archiving Usenet posts
like Google (and formerly Deja News) does.<g>

Good luck. :eek:)

TB

"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
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> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:409fca69$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Here's a couple of links for you:
> >
> > http://www.soyousa.com/dl/bios/
> > http://www.soyousa.com/dl/manuals/
> >
> > Those are http links to their FTP downloads section.
> > You'll be looking in the 586 categories.
> > You'll need the model number of your board.
> > It's something like a 5TF or 5TX, according to what I've seen, but is
best
> > to make sure.
> > If you have the original manual, that would help verify which it is.
>
>
> Thanks for the links.
>
> I have the manual here, but not the board...
> The manual says:
> Edition August 1996
> Version 2.0
> 5T F0/F2/F5 Serial
>
> Is this information (exclusive) enough?
>
>
> >
> > LOL.. I see motherboard-forum.com is archiving this, and all my attempts
> to
> > get my previous reply to post all show up there..LOL..
>
>
> So they're interested too. :)
>
>
>
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>
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> You're welcome. Looks like it's enough to show it's a model 5TF.
> Soyo site for BIOS'es doesn't show anything newer than 1997 for 5TF
series,
> and it looks like the 5TF1114.bin dated NOV 19 1997 would be the newest.
> Without being exactly for sure (an e-mail to Soyo might help verify), I
> don't think I'd try flashing unless there's a problem with using that
20gig
> drive.
>
> LOL.. I think that website is doing it automatically. Archiving Usenet
posts
> like Google (and formerly Deja News) does.<g>


Anyway, I solved one issue today: the fact that the system wouldn't boot
from floppy. It seemed suspicious to me that the floppy light always
remained dead, so I started checking the connections inside the case. It
seemed my father had been messing around with cables himself. I had already
checked that floppy drive was connected, but after more detailed examining
it seemed he had used the wrong connector, not the twisted cable one!
Now at least I can boot from floppies! Because I forgot to take MaxBlast
today, I'll resume friday.
To be continued.



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>> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:40a12bae_2@127.0.0.1...
> > You're welcome. Looks like it's enough to show it's a model 5TF.
> > Soyo site for BIOS'es doesn't show anything newer than 1997 for 5TF
>> series,
> > and it looks like the 5TF1114.bin dated NOV 19 1997 would be the newest.
> > Without being exactly for sure (an e-mail to Soyo might help verify), I
> > don't think I'd try flashing unless there's a problem with using that
> >20gig
> > drive.
> >
> > LOL.. I think that website is doing it automatically. Archiving Usenet
> >posts
> > like Google (and formerly Deja News) does.<g>
>
>"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
news:2gsa6iF68pngU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>
> Anyway, I solved one issue today: the fact that the system wouldn't boot
> from floppy. It seemed suspicious to me that the floppy light always
> remained dead, so I started checking the connections inside the case. It
> seemed my father had been messing around with cables himself. I had
already
> checked that floppy drive was connected, but after more detailed examining
> it seemed he had used the wrong connector, not the twisted cable one!
> Now at least I can boot from floppies! Because I forgot to take MaxBlast
> today, I'll resume friday.
> To be continued.
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>

Well, that's one down.<g>
Good you noticed the light, investigated, and noticed the cable. :eek:)

Good luck with the rest.

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"ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
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> >> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> >> news:40a12bae_2@127.0.0.1...
> > > You're welcome. Looks like it's enough to show it's a model 5TF.
> > > Soyo site for BIOS'es doesn't show anything newer than 1997 for 5TF
> >> series,
> > > and it looks like the 5TF1114.bin dated NOV 19 1997 would be the
newest.
> > > Without being exactly for sure (an e-mail to Soyo might help verify),
I
> > > don't think I'd try flashing unless there's a problem with using that
> > >20gig
> > > drive.
> > >
> > > LOL.. I think that website is doing it automatically. Archiving Usenet
> > >posts
> > > like Google (and formerly Deja News) does.<g>
> >
> >"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> news:2gsa6iF68pngU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I solved one issue today: the fact that the system wouldn't boot
> > from floppy. It seemed suspicious to me that the floppy light always
> > remained dead, so I started checking the connections inside the case. It
> > seemed my father had been messing around with cables himself. I had
> already
> > checked that floppy drive was connected, but after more detailed
examining
> > it seemed he had used the wrong connector, not the twisted cable one!
> > Now at least I can boot from floppies! Because I forgot to take MaxBlast
> > today, I'll resume friday.
> > To be continued.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> >
> > |\ /|
> > | \/ |@rk
> > \../
> > \/os
> >
>
> Well, that's one down.<g>
> Good you noticed the light, investigated, and noticed the cable. :eek:)
>
> Good luck with the rest.



After some fiddling with the Lifeguard Tools, I finally managed to install
Windows 98 today, and also using the full capacity of both hard drives. The
computer is up and running. Thanks for your initial help!



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> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:40a94d11_2@127.0.0.1...
> > >> "ThunderBob" <thunderbob@msn.com> schreef in bericht
> > >> news:40a12bae_2@127.0.0.1...
> > > > You're welcome. Looks like it's enough to show it's a model 5TF.
> > > > Soyo site for BIOS'es doesn't show anything newer than 1997 for 5TF
> > >> series,
> > > > and it looks like the 5TF1114.bin dated NOV 19 1997 would be the
> newest.
> > > > Without being exactly for sure (an e-mail to Soyo might help
verify),
> I
> > > > don't think I'd try flashing unless there's a problem with using
that
> > > >20gig
> > > > drive.
> > > >
> > > > LOL.. I think that website is doing it automatically. Archiving
Usenet
> > > >posts
> > > > like Google (and formerly Deja News) does.<g>
> > >
> > >"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
> > news:2gsa6iF68pngU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyway, I solved one issue today: the fact that the system wouldn't
boot
> > > from floppy. It seemed suspicious to me that the floppy light always
> > > remained dead, so I started checking the connections inside the case.
It
> > > seemed my father had been messing around with cables himself. I had
> > already
> > > checked that floppy drive was connected, but after more detailed
> examining
> > > it seemed he had used the wrong connector, not the twisted cable one!
> > > Now at least I can boot from floppies! Because I forgot to take
MaxBlast
> > > today, I'll resume friday.
> > > To be continued.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > |\ /|
> > > | \/ |@rk
> > > \../
> > > \/os
> > >
> >
> > Well, that's one down.<g>
> > Good you noticed the light, investigated, and noticed the cable. :eek:)
> >
> > Good luck with the rest.
>
>
>
> After some fiddling with the Lifeguard Tools, I finally managed to install
> Windows 98 today, and also using the full capacity of both hard drives.
The
> computer is up and running. Thanks for your initial help!
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>

You're welcome, and I'm glad you got it all going. :eek:)

TB