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May 4, 2005 8:29:01 AM

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I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space

Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or joining of
the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't remember the
# for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper), while
D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that it
won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions differ.
It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but does
offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation automatically.
Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions NTFS
version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first partition)
without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive (which is
primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
Thanks in advance for any help offered!

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May 4, 2005 7:33:23 PM

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"Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
>I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
> C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
> D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
>
> Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or joining
> of
> the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't remember
> the
> # for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
> while
> D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that it
> won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
> differ.
> It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
> does
> offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation automatically.
> Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
> NTFS
> version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first partition)
> without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive (which
> is
> primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
> Thanks in advance for any help offered!

Never come across anything like this in my life. Where does it say version #
May 4, 2005 7:42:30 PM

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"Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
>I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
> C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
> D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
>
> Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or joining
> of
> the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't remember
> the
> # for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
> while
> D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that it
> won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
> differ.
> It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
> does
> offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation automatically.
> Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
> NTFS
> version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first partition)
> without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive (which
> is
> primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
> Thanks in advance for any help offered!

Maybe you could use Partition Magic (under Partition, Convert) to convert D
to Fat 32 and then back to NTFS. I don't know if it will let you do that but
if it does it should convert back to version 3.1.
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May 4, 2005 7:42:31 PM

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Version is maybe the wrong definition.

Perhaps you mean Type - Logical vs Primary.

"ZMAN" wrote:

>
> "Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
> news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
> >I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
> > C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
> > D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
> >
> > Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or joining
> > of
> > the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't remember
> > the
> > # for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
> > while
> > D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that it
> > won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
> > differ.
> > It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
> > does
> > offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation automatically.
> > Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
> > NTFS
> > version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first partition)
> > without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive (which
> > is
> > primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
> > Thanks in advance for any help offered!
>
> Maybe you could use Partition Magic (under Partition, Convert) to convert D
> to Fat 32 and then back to NTFS. I don't know if it will let you do that but
> if it does it should convert back to version 3.1.
>
>
>
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 2:48:09 AM

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"Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
> I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
> C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
> D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
>
> Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or joining
of
> the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't remember
the
> # for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
while
> D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that it
> won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
differ.
> It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
does
> offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation automatically.
> Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
NTFS
> version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first partition)
> without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive (which
is
> primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
> Thanks in advance for any help offered!

I don't know the answer to your question but I think it would
be a big mistake to join the two partitions. Having the OS
and the applications installed on a "small" 16 GByte partition
is ideal, because it provides a clear separation between the
OS and your data. It also makes it easy for you to create
a snapshot image of your OS, and to restore the OS in
case it goes South, without ever affecting your data. You
would lose these advantages if you joined the partitions.
May 5, 2005 2:53:32 AM

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"BAR" <BAR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Version is maybe the wrong definition.
>
> Perhaps you mean Type - Logical vs Primary.
>
> "ZMAN" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
>> news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
>> >I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
>> > C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
>> > D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
>> >
>> > Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or
>> > joining
>> > of
>> > the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't
>> > remember
>> > the
>> > # for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
>> > while
>> > D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that
>> > it
>> > won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
>> > differ.
>> > It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
>> > does
>> > offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation
>> > automatically.
>> > Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
>> > NTFS
>> > version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first
>> > partition)
>> > without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive
>> > (which
>> > is
>> > primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
>> > Thanks in advance for any help offered!
>>
>> Maybe you could use Partition Magic (under Partition, Convert) to convert
>> D
>> to Fat 32 and then back to NTFS. I don't know if it will let you do that
>> but
>> if it does it should convert back to version 3.1.
>>
>>
well, partition magic, under partition properties and NTFS Info says, NTFS
Version 3.1
May 5, 2005 3:01:03 PM

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The NTFS file system, introduced with first version of Windows NT, is the
default file system for new installations of Windows XP, and if you're doing
an upgrade from a previous version of Windows, you'll be asked if you want to
convert your existing file systems to NTFS.

Don't worry. If you've already upgraded to Windows XP and didn't do the
conversion then, it's not a problem. You can convert FAT16 or FAT32 volumes
to NTFS at any point. Just remember that you can't easily go back to FAT or
FAT32 (without reformatting the drive or partition), not that I think you'll
want to.

The NTFS file system is generally not compatible with other operating
systems installed on the same computer, nor is it available when you've
booted a computer from a floppy disk. For this reason, many system
administrators, myself included, used to recommend that users format at least
a small partition at the beginning of their main hard disk as FAT32. This
partition provided a place to store emergency recovery tools or special
drivers needed for reinstallation, and was a mechanism for digging yourself
out of the hole you'd just dug into.

But with the enhanced recovery abilities built into Windows XP I don't think
it's necessary or desirable to create that initial FAT partition.

Converting to NTFS in Windows XP. There are certainly third–party utilities
that allow you to convert from FAT16 or FAT32 to NTFS, but you really don't
need any special tool to perform the conversion—the necessary program is
included on your hard disk as part of the Windows XP installation. To use
this utility to convert your D drive, for example:

1. Close all open applications. This process may require a reboot, so be
prepared.

2. Click Start, click Run, and then type cmd, and press Enter.

3. In the command windows, type:

convert D: /FS:NTFS

4. Press Enter.

That's it. If there are open files on the volume being converted, you'll
have to reboot your system for the process to complete. And if this is a
large drive that contains lots of files, the process could take a while to
complete. I don't recommend that you try to do anything else while the
conversion is occurring.



"bud" wrote:

>
> "BAR" <BAR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0A0F2A69-79EF-49CB-A148-82AEB5998B48@microsoft.com...
> > Version is maybe the wrong definition.
> >
> > Perhaps you mean Type - Logical vs Primary.
> >
> > "ZMAN" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
> >> news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
> >> > C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
> >> > D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
> >> >
> >> > Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or
> >> > joining
> >> > of
> >> > the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't
> >> > remember
> >> > the
> >> > # for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
> >> > while
> >> > D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that
> >> > it
> >> > won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
> >> > differ.
> >> > It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
> >> > does
> >> > offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation
> >> > automatically.
> >> > Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
> >> > NTFS
> >> > version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first
> >> > partition)
> >> > without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive
> >> > (which
> >> > is
> >> > primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
> >> > Thanks in advance for any help offered!
> >>
> >> Maybe you could use Partition Magic (under Partition, Convert) to convert
> >> D
> >> to Fat 32 and then back to NTFS. I don't know if it will let you do that
> >> but
> >> if it does it should convert back to version 3.1.
> >>
> >>
> well, partition magic, under partition properties and NTFS Info says, NTFS
> Version 3.1
>
>
>
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 7:05:56 PM

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Partition Magic version 7 started to be able to understand the NTFS format
of XP. Any version before 7, you might be getting this error.


"Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
>I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
> C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
> D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
>
> Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or joining
> of
> the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't remember
> the
> # for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
> while
> D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that it
> won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
> differ.
> It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
> does
> offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation automatically.
> Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
> NTFS
> version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first partition)
> without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive (which
> is
> primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
> Thanks in advance for any help offered!
Anonymous
May 6, 2005 5:24:22 AM

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Every version of NTFS has been modified in some way, from NT 3.51 to
2000 and now XP.

By default, XP is version 3.1, Win2K provides NTFS version 3.0 and NT
4.0 provides NTFS version 1.2.

You can check version with: fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo <drive letter:>




BAR wrote:
> Version is maybe the wrong definition.
>
> Perhaps you mean Type - Logical vs Primary.
>
> "ZMAN" wrote:
>
>
>>"Vincent Clarke" <vangoghx@gmail.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
>>news:C9B48BA6-777C-4E9C-B30E-952839301C84@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>I have my Maxtor 250GB HD partitioned as:
>>>C: NTFS Primary, Boot Size=16GB
>>>D: NTFS Logical Size=Remaining space
>>>
>>>Here's the problem... I can't do anything involving resizing or joining
>>>of
>>>the two due to the C: drive having an NTFS version (argh! Can't remember
>>>the
>>># for sure... 3.1?) for WinXP (which it should, all good and proper),
>>>while
>>>D: has an NTFS version of 0 (zero). Now Partition Magic tells me that it
>>>won't perform any of the attempted operations while the two versions
>>>differ.
>>>It also has no built in utility to change or upgrade NTFS versions, but
>>>does
>>>offer that WinXP will 'upgrade' drives during installation automatically.
>>>Sooooooo here's my question: Can I easily change the second partitions
>>>NTFS
>>>version to the current WinXP version # (the same as the first partition)
>>>without losing data? I'd be willing to lose data from the C: drive (which
>>>is
>>>primarily the OS) but want to keep material on the D:.
>>>Thanks in advance for any help offered!
>>
>>Maybe you could use Partition Magic (under Partition, Convert) to convert D
>>to Fat 32 and then back to NTFS. I don't know if it will let you do that but
>>if it does it should convert back to version 3.1.
>>
>>
>>
!