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a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2005 2:58:35 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.soyo (More info?)

I have an application for this board in a PC running a CNC milling
machine (I need at least one ISA slot). Can anyone give me some idea
as to the reliability of it. Ease of set up is important. I'm a
machinist, not a computer maven, though I have assembled my own for
some years now. It's going in an industrial type of enclosure, that
now houses a 486 (yeah, ancient) so I know some adapting will be
required along with an ATX power supply. The software that actually
runs the machine runs under DOS (really ancient) but it works fine. I
plan so set up a dual boot system, with Win 98 in the other partition
for file management and wireless communication with my office PC.
There is no sound requirement and video is hammer simple VGA, nothing
fancy. Any suggestions you might have will be gratefully accepted.
Please respond to the group, my email account is buried in spam.

TIA

Bill Smith

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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2005 7:50:47 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.soyo (More info?)

Bill Smith wrote:

> I have an application for this board in a PC running a CNC milling
> machine (I need at least one ISA slot). Can anyone give me some
> idea as to the reliability of it. Ease of set up is important.

We've bought about 40 of these boards in the past 2 years for the same
reason (need 1 ISA slot). We install identical hardware in it each
time (80 gb drive, Intel P-4 (celeron) 2.6 Ghz cpu, Nvidia video card,
LG CD/RW, 256 or 512 mb ram, etc). Systems that are shipped have XP
pro. A number of these boards are used for general office computers
running Win-98 or 2K.

We've had good luck with them.

What I/O addresses and/or DMA, IRQ addresses does your ISA board use?
Ours just uses I/O ports and there was one conflict with a smart-card
interface on the Soyo so we moved our address so it wouldn't conflict.

One thing to look out for: Seems that the availability of CPU's for
this board is kinda wierd. You're going to be looking for a
non-Prescott P-4 and from what I can tell they're not as available now
as they were a few months ago.

I think that by non-Prescott, they mean "Northwood". I've heard
conflicting info that a Socket 478 Prescott will work on a motherboard
designed for a Socket-478 Northwood, but I haven't tried that on this
Soyo.

Make sure the vendor you get the Soyo from will also supply you with a
compatible CPU you've got in mind.

> I plan so set up a dual boot system, with Win 98 in the other
> partition for file management and wireless communication with
> my office PC.

No need to set up a dual-boot (DOS/Win-98). If the DOS software
doesn't run in a command-prompt DOS window under 98, then you can
simply set up a boot menu in your config.sys and when the computer
starts, it will give you a choice as to which section of the menu it
will follow. One choice can be DOS, the other Win-98. For the DOS,
the last statement in your autoexec.bat is simply "command.com" which
will just leave you at the DOS prompt. I've done this lots of times
on a Win-98 system that I wanted the choice to boot into 98 or into
DOS only.

Here's a sample of the config.sys you can use. It assumes your
windows is installed in "c:\win98". Some items are rem'd out (they
pertain to CD-rom support). Activate them if you want to access a
CD-rom drive while running under pure DOS.

-------------------------------
(contents of config.sys file)
[menu]
menuitem=dos,DOS
menuitem=win98,Windows 98

MENUDEFAULT=win98,30 'this sets the default boot method, and
'the number of seconds that you have to
'select another option before this one
'will start automatically

[dos]
DEVICE=C:\WIN98\HIMEM.SYS /verbose
DEVICE=C:\WIN98\EMM386.EXE NOEMS VERBOSE
rem
rem if you need EMS memory available to your DOS program,
rem then rem the above line and un-rem the following line:
rem
rem DEVICE=C:\WIN98\EMM386.EXE D=64 A=15 VERBOSE
rem
DOS=HIGH,UMB
BUFFERSHIGH=50,0
FILESHIGH=50
STACKSHIGH=32,512
rem
rem use one of the following lines if you want CD-rom
rem support while running in DOS mode. This assumes
rem you have a c:\dos directory containing one of these
rem CD-rom drivers:
rem
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\CDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001 /DMA
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\CDTECH.SYS /D:MSCD001 /UDMA2 /V
rem DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\MTMCDAI.SYS /D:MTMIDE01
SWITCHES /F /W
BREAK=ON

[win98]
DEVICE=C:\WIN98\HIMEM.SYS /verbose
DEVICE=C:\WIN98\EMM386.EXE NOEMS D=64 A=15 VERBOSE
DOS=HIGH,UMB
BUFFERSHIGH=64,0
FILES=64
SWITCHES /F /W
BREAK=ON
------------------------------------


Here's the necessary autoexec.bat you'll need. If you need mouse or
CD-rom support under DOS, then un-rem the rem'd lines in the :D OS
section. I like having DOSKEY running, so that's why it's there. The
setting I use result in the most available RAM do DOS by using LH
(load-high) commands. Smartdrv also makes DOS run faster. If you
need EMS memory for your DOS application, then modify the EMM386 stuff
in the config.sys.

-----------------------
(contents of autoexec.bat)
goto %config%

:D OS
LH C:\WIN98\SMARTDRV.EXE A- B- C+ /V 4096 4096 /E:8192 /B:8192
rem LH C:\DOS\mouse.exe
rem LH C:\WIN98\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /V /S /M:8
LH C:\WIN98\COMMAND\doskey
SET TEMP=C:\WIN98\TEMP
SET PATH=C:\WIN98;C:\WIN98\COMMAND
PROMPT $p$g
LH c:\command.com
goto end


:win98
rem LH C:\DOS\mouse.exe
LH C:\WIN98\COMMAND\doskey
SET TEMP=C:\WIN98\TEMP
SET PATH=c:\win98;c:\win98\command
PROMPT $p$g
goto end

:end
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Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2005 7:50:48 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.soyo (More info?)

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:50:47 -0500, Soyo Man <Soyo@Man.com> wrote:

>Bill Smith wrote:
>
>> I have an application for this board in a PC running a CNC milling
>> machine (I need at least one ISA slot). Can anyone give me some
>> idea as to the reliability of it. Ease of set up is important.
>
>We've bought about 40 of these boards in the past 2 years for the same
>reason (need 1 ISA slot). We install identical hardware in it each
>time (80 gb drive, Intel P-4 (celeron) 2.6 Ghz cpu, Nvidia video card,
>LG CD/RW, 256 or 512 mb ram, etc). Systems that are shipped have XP
>pro. A number of these boards are used for general office computers
>running Win-98 or 2K.
>
>We've had good luck with them.
>
>What I/O addresses and/or DMA, IRQ addresses does your ISA board use?
>Ours just uses I/O ports and there was one conflict with a smart-card
>interface on the Soyo so we moved our address so it wouldn't conflict.

What's a smart card interface?

>One thing to look out for: Seems that the availability of CPU's for
>this board is kinda wierd. You're going to be looking for a
>non-Prescott P-4 and from what I can tell they're not as available now
>as they were a few months ago.
>
>I think that by non-Prescott, they mean "Northwood". I've heard
>conflicting info that a Socket 478 Prescott will work on a motherboard
>designed for a Socket-478 Northwood, but I haven't tried that on this
>Soyo.

What's the difference?

Thanks for you help.

Bill Smith
Related resources
March 15, 2005 12:39:37 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.soyo (More info?)

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:31:10 -0800, Bill Smith
<quandaryNS@newsguy.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:50:47 -0500, Soyo Man <Soyo@Man.com> wrote:
>
>>Bill Smith wrote:
>> >
>>One thing to look out for: Seems that the availability of CPU's for
>>this board is kinda wierd. You're going to be looking for a
>>non-Prescott P-4 and from what I can tell they're not as available now
>>as they were a few months ago.
>>
>>I think that by non-Prescott, they mean "Northwood". I've heard
>>conflicting info that a Socket 478 Prescott will work on a motherboard
>>designed for a Socket-478 Northwood, but I haven't tried that on this
>>Soyo.
>
>What's the difference?

The motherboard does not support the Prescott CPU, so using it would
be unwise. The main difference is the Prescott CPU requires more power
than the Northwood at a lower core voltage and much higher current.
Unless the motherboard core voltage regulator is designed to support
the Prescott CPU, it won't be able to power it.

>Thanks for you help.
>
> Bill Smith
>
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 15, 2005 2:19:41 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.soyo (More info?)

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:39:37 GMT, Andy <1@2.3> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:31:10 -0800, Bill Smith
><quandaryNS@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:50:47 -0500, Soyo Man <Soyo@Man.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Bill Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>>One thing to look out for: Seems that the availability of CPU's for
>>>this board is kinda wierd. You're going to be looking for a
>>>non-Prescott P-4 and from what I can tell they're not as available now
>>>as they were a few months ago.
>>>
>>>I think that by non-Prescott, they mean "Northwood". I've heard
>>>conflicting info that a Socket 478 Prescott will work on a motherboard
>>>designed for a Socket-478 Northwood, but I haven't tried that on this
>>>Soyo.
>>
>>What's the difference?
>
>The motherboard does not support the Prescott CPU, so using it would
>be unwise. The main difference is the Prescott CPU requires more power
>than the Northwood at a lower core voltage and much higher current.
>Unless the motherboard core voltage regulator is designed to support
>the Prescott CPU, it won't be able to power it.
>

Thanks

Bill Smith
Anonymous
a b V Motherboard
March 16, 2005 12:25:46 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.soyo (More info?)

A few years ago, P-4 motherboards with ISA slots were practically
non-existant. Now they're all over the place.

Might want to look at this one:

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/P4/E7210...

• Single mPGA478 ZIF Sockets
• Supports an Intel® Pentium® 4 processor with 2MB of integrated
Advanced Transfer Cache up to 3.4GHz (Extreme Edition)
• Supports an Intel® Celeron® processor with 128KB of integrated
Advanced Transfer Cache up to 2.4GHz
• Hyper-threading enabled
• System Bus 800 / 533 / 400MHz system bus

Question:

What is the "extreme" edition?

Which die is that based on? Prescott?
!